Participation through Conference calls, Netmeeting, Live meetings, etc.
I would say why not, Sophia. It is certainly more engaging than a plain conference call, but I guess less than a live meeting. Personally, I have been 24/7 English speaking just for a few months, and my ears are not yet fully "fluent," so to speak (*), in hearing properly all what you guys say in a meeting over the phone (and sometimes even live, still:)), thus my limited participation on the calls. In those conditions, it's kind of hard, I must confess, not to be distracted with multi-tasking, when one is sitting in one's usual working environment and trying to focus on the conference call. In sum, live meetings may still be useful especially in such a multicultural setting, which I'm sure we all agree on. Best, Mawaki (*) For those who don't know, I grew up and have been educated speaking French, among other local languages, and had to learn and speak Portuguese over the last three years, before being now in my first year in an all-English speaking environment. --- Sophia B <sophiabekele@gmail.com> wrote:
I am sorry we have to go thru this, but has any one thought of MS 'netmeetiing' software, it is free and supports remote conference including document viewing. It is absolutely great.
We use it at Intel Corp, at all times for global conferences. I am not sure of its transcription capabilities, but MP3 recording should not be a problem with netmeeting.
I have heard Ross mention a software with transcription capabilities, I am not sure the cost. But, if you want me to explore Net Meetimg, concurrently is advise.
regards, Sophie
On 05/04/06, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com> wrote:
can we please see a spread sheet from staff with the options.
We seem to
be doing most of the work and a spread sheet from staff with the options will faciliate Councilor/TF members abilty to make "selections".
Tom, thanks for checking with DeNIC. I would support that as a meeting location, if they are willing to bear with the demands of support for remote participation. I've also just spoken to Bruce about our starting to do web meetings so that documents are able to be viewed remotely.And, we need to simply purchse the necessary equipment and install it and then insist that it be used. I am not sure that MdR or Brussels have sufficient "rooms" to support what we need at this point in space,and I don't think that is the issue to focus on. It is easy to just suggest to ICANN that they "buy", but instead, I'd like to focus on how to support remote participation, since we don';t watn to be limited to moving people to Brussels or MdR, although that is good for future in face meetings.
Instead, I'd make it a priority to 1) start using web meeting software 2) purchase a few microphones, extender mikes, etc. and 3) do real time transcription [after the fact translation of MP3 recordings is good and appropriate for the conf. calls that Council holds, , but not the same for full participation of councilors whne a meeting is underway, so in certain circumstances, we need real time transcription, or a form of scribbing that is summary type scribbing... but the point is that we need to insist now, and initiate now, real support for remote participation.
As to the time of the Euroepan meeting, I will do my best, within the limits of
1) not first week of May
2) not 5/19
3) not 5/29-30, with travel limiations on both sides
I have an absolute date that I must be in Missouri. It is possible that I will miss our Council meeting in Europe, if those are the only dates. They are 5/29-30.
I apologize that this is a public list, but we don't have a private council only list for communications related to scheduling, and thus I have no choice but to use this list. Perhaps this will serve as the emphasis for staff to set up a adm issues only list that we can do stuff like this on, since I suspect even those who advocate transparency to teh nth degree might be bored by our looking at each others calendars. :-)
Due to family health issues I must be in MIssouri on 5/29-30. While I can miss birthdays of my elderly parents, and spent my own birthday at ICANN meetings, and have done both, I can't not be in Missouri for those dates. I can work around them though, and will.
------------------------------ From: *"Anthony Harris" <harris@cabase.org.ar>* To: *"Thomas Keller" <tom@schlund.de>, "Marilyn Cade" < marilynscade@hotmail.com>* CC: *"Tom Keller" <tom@schlund.de>, <owner-gtld-council@gnso.icann.org>, "Bruce Tonkin" <bruce.tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>, < gtld-council@gnso.icann.org>*
Subject: *Re: [gtld-council] Dates for a possible physical meeting in Brussels* Date: *Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:53:02 -0300*
Just thought I should mention there is a LACNIC annual meeting in Guatemala on May 22-26th. Its very likely I may have to be there...
Tony Harris
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Keller" <tom@schlund.de> To: "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade@hotmail.com> Cc: "Tom Keller" <tom@schlund.de>; <owner-gtld-council@gnso.icann.org>; "Bruce Tonkin" <bruce.tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>; <gtld-council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [gtld-council] Dates for a possible physical meeting in Brussels
Marilyn, all,
both dates, before or after the meeting, would be fine with me as long as it is in Barcelona. Thought that parts of our discussion could be public I imagine that this would be a very interessting contribution to all participants of the Registrar meeting.
Alternatively I would suggest to hold the meeting in Frankfurt (for the very selfish reason that I won't be able to participate on three meetings in the intercourse of a bit more than one month). I already talked to DENIC and they would be ready to accommodate a location for our meeting.
Best,
tom
Am 29.03.2006 schrieb Marilyn Cade:
Tom, since the registrars meet 5/24-26, could you suggest what days wk for you for separate Council TF on new gTLDs? Before? Or after? Regards, Marilyn Cade
-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Keller <tom@schlund.de> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:39:43 To:Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> Cc:gtld-council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [gtld-council] Dates for a possible physical meeting in Brussels
As far as I know there is a ICANN European Registrar meeting scheduled for the 24-26 of May in Barcelona. If possible in any way I would like to recommend to use this venue for a intermediate meeting
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Mawaki, Welcome to the Ascii world:-) your English oral/written I must say is stupendeous! Sophia On 06/04/06, Mawaki Chango <ki_chango@yahoo.com> wrote:
I would say why not, Sophia. It is certainly more engaging than a plain conference call, but I guess less than a live meeting. Personally, I have been 24/7 English speaking just for a few months, and my ears are not yet fully "fluent," so to speak (*), in hearing properly all what you guys say in a meeting over the phone (and sometimes even live, still:)), thus my limited participation on the calls. In those conditions, it's kind of hard, I must confess, not to be distracted with multi-tasking, when one is sitting in one's usual working environment and trying to focus on the conference call. In sum, live meetings may still be useful especially in such a multicultural setting, which I'm sure we all agree on. Best,
Mawaki (*) For those who don't know, I grew up and have been educated speaking French, among other local languages, and had to learn and speak Portuguese over the last three years, before being now in my first year in an all-English speaking environment.
--- Sophia B <sophiabekele@gmail.com> wrote:
I am sorry we have to go thru this, but has any one thought of MS 'netmeetiing' software, it is free and supports remote conference including document viewing. It is absolutely great.
We use it at Intel Corp, at all times for global conferences. I am not sure of its transcription capabilities, but MP3 recording should not be a problem with netmeeting.
I have heard Ross mention a software with transcription capabilities, I am not sure the cost. But, if you want me to explore Net Meetimg, concurrently is advise.
regards, Sophie
On 05/04/06, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com> wrote:
can we please see a spread sheet from staff with the options.
We seem to
be doing most of the work and a spread sheet from staff with the options will faciliate Councilor/TF members abilty to make "selections".
Tom, thanks for checking with DeNIC. I would support that as a meeting location, if they are willing to bear with the demands of support for remote participation. I've also just spoken to Bruce about our starting to do web meetings so that documents are able to be viewed remotely.And, we need to simply purchse the necessary equipment and install it and then insist that it be used. I am not sure that MdR or Brussels have sufficient "rooms" to support what we need at this point in space,and I don't think that is the issue to focus on. It is easy to just suggest to ICANN that they "buy", but instead, I'd like to focus on how to support remote participation, since we don';t watn to be limited to moving people to Brussels or MdR, although that is good for future in face meetings.
Instead, I'd make it a priority to 1) start using web meeting software 2) purchase a few microphones, extender mikes, etc. and 3) do real time transcription [after the fact translation of MP3 recordings is good and appropriate for the conf. calls that Council holds, , but not the same for full participation of councilors whne a meeting is underway, so in certain circumstances, we need real time transcription, or a form of scribbing that is summary type scribbing... but the point is that we need to insist now, and initiate now, real support for remote participation.
As to the time of the Euroepan meeting, I will do my best, within the limits of
1) not first week of May
2) not 5/19
3) not 5/29-30, with travel limiations on both sides
I have an absolute date that I must be in Missouri. It is possible that I will miss our Council meeting in Europe, if those are the only dates. They are 5/29-30.
I apologize that this is a public list, but we don't have a private council only list for communications related to scheduling, and thus I have no choice but to use this list. Perhaps this will serve as the emphasis for staff to set up a adm issues only list that we can do stuff like this on, since I suspect even those who advocate transparency to teh nth degree might be bored by our looking at each others calendars. :-)
Due to family health issues I must be in MIssouri on 5/29-30. While I can miss birthdays of my elderly parents, and spent my own birthday at ICANN meetings, and have done both, I can't not be in Missouri for those dates. I can work around them though, and will.
------------------------------ From: *"Anthony Harris" <harris@cabase.org.ar>* To: *"Thomas Keller" <tom@schlund.de>, "Marilyn Cade" < marilynscade@hotmail.com>* CC: *"Tom Keller" <tom@schlund.de>, <owner-gtld-council@gnso.icann.org>, "Bruce Tonkin" <bruce.tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>, < gtld-council@gnso.icann.org>*
Subject: *Re: [gtld-council] Dates for a possible physical meeting in Brussels* Date: *Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:53:02 -0300*
Just thought I should mention there is a LACNIC annual meeting in Guatemala on May 22-26th. Its very likely I may have to be there...
Tony Harris
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Keller" <tom@schlund.de> To: "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade@hotmail.com> Cc: "Tom Keller" <tom@schlund.de>; <owner-gtld-council@gnso.icann.org>; "Bruce Tonkin" <bruce.tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>; <gtld-council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [gtld-council] Dates for a possible physical meeting in Brussels
Marilyn, all,
both dates, before or after the meeting, would be fine with me as long as it is in Barcelona. Thought that parts of our discussion could be public I imagine that this would be a very interessting contribution to all participants of the Registrar meeting.
Alternatively I would suggest to hold the meeting in Frankfurt (for the very selfish reason that I won't be able to participate on three meetings in the intercourse of a bit more than one month). I already talked to DENIC and they would be ready to accommodate a location for our meeting.
Best,
tom
Am 29.03.2006 schrieb Marilyn Cade:
Tom, since the registrars meet 5/24-26, could you suggest what days wk for you for separate Council TF on new gTLDs? Before? Or after? Regards, Marilyn Cade
-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Keller <tom@schlund.de> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:39:43 To:Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> Cc:gtld-council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [gtld-council] Dates for a possible physical meeting in Brussels
As far as I know there is a ICANN European Registrar meeting scheduled for the 24-26 of May in Barcelona. If possible in any way I would like to recommend to use this venue for a intermediate meeting
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Sophia and fellow Council members, may I remind you (and in so doing commit the same error for emphasis) that the "reply to all" function results in multi-list postings. I just read your last email three times and some Council members will have seen it four times. In general: - If copying council@gnso.icann.org one should delete the individual addresses of Council members. - one should only copy to one Council list at a time, so choose between council@gnso.icann.org for general matters or a more specific list such as gtld-council@gnso.icann.org or owner-gtld-council@gnso.icann.org Many thanks. Philip
Thanks Philip, but then, maybe the original message shouldn't have been sent to all those people in the first place! because in general when I reply to such messages (and because I specifically address the content of such messages), I feel I must at least copy to the same people, for the record. but I understand for the council lists... btw, do we have all council members on the gtld-council list, or vice versa? I'm just not sure of the order now... Mawaki --- Philip Sheppard <philip.sheppard@aim.be> wrote:
Sophia and fellow Council members, may I remind you (and in so doing commit the same error for emphasis) that the "reply to all" function results in multi-list postings. I just read your last email three times and some Council members will have seen it four times.
In general: - If copying council@gnso.icann.org one should delete the individual addresses of Council members. - one should only copy to one Council list at a time, so choose between council@gnso.icann.org for general matters or a more specific list such as gtld-council@gnso.icann.org or owner-gtld-council@gnso.icann.org
Many thanks.
Philip
Thanks Philip for bringing this to our attention...I think the "reply all" could be tricky, as Mawaki noted. Sophia On 07/04/06, Mawaki Chango <ki_chango@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Philip,
but then, maybe the original message shouldn't have been sent to all those people in the first place! because in general when I reply to such messages (and because I specifically address the content of such messages), I feel I must at least copy to the same people, for the record. but I understand for the council lists... btw, do we have all council members on the gtld-council list, or vice versa? I'm just not sure of the order now...
Mawaki
--- Philip Sheppard <philip.sheppard@aim.be> wrote:
Sophia and fellow Council members, may I remind you (and in so doing commit the same error for emphasis) that the "reply to all" function results in multi-list postings. I just read your last email three times and some Council members will have seen it four times.
In general: - If copying council@gnso.icann.org one should delete the individual addresses of Council members. - one should only copy to one Council list at a time, so choose between council@gnso.icann.org for general matters or a more specific list such as gtld-council@gnso.icann.org or owner-gtld-council@gnso.icann.org
Many thanks.
Philip
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