Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls
Hello Berry, I think that the planning PDFs for the 17DEC2020 might contain some dates not fitting the real planning for SubPro PDP (Also it might affect the colour codes of the project). Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow)
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From: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Date: 11 December 2020 at 08:07:34 GMT+3 To: "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>
All,
The Leadership Team met a few hours ago to discuss a number of issues including how to get to the finish line……We are nearly there!
As discussed on the last call (about 24 hours ago), we are making the following changes to the Work Plan:
11 December 2020 Latest Redline of Final Report containing changes from all topics discussed to date as well as changes (if any) as a result of the 9 Topical E-mails Meeting of the small team on Auctions to see if there can be any recommendations to the Full Working Group 14 December 2020 Discussing (a) Auctions Topic (results if any from small team; (b) Conflicts of Interest, (c) Applicant Freedom of Expression, and (d) Dispute Resolution Procedures after Delegation. 15 December 2020 Comments due to 11 December 2020 Redline Release of Any redlines to as a result of the topics discussed on 14 December 2020 17 December 2020 Comments due to December 15 Redline Working Group Call (already on your calendars) to close out any last issues Content Freeze / Lockdown – Other than if there are any changes to close out last issues, all content is locked down for the Consensus Call 22 December 2020 Final Report is released to the Working Group Commencement of Consensus Call (See some notes below) 5 January 2020 Consensus Call Ends 6 January 2020 Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team 7 January 2020 Call of the Working Group to discuss designations, answer questions, and hopefully celebrate a job well done 8 January 2020 Challenges to Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team are due (if any) Minority Reports (if any) are due 11 January 2020 Final Report delivered to the Council Document Deadline for discussion during January’s GNSO Council Meeting
Some Notes A longer note will follow in the next couple of days on how we will structure the Consensus Call. We strongly recommend that if you were not on the last working group call on 10 December 2020 at 03:00 UTC, please do go back and review at least the first 15-20 minutes of the call. (Link to Call <https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2020-12-07+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP.>)
Although more details will be provided later: Leadership will be grouping the Topics into batches for purposes of the Consensus Calls. We will not be voting on each recommendation / implementation guidance separately (as there are several hundred of them). We will do our best to only include in the batches the lesser controversial topics; stated differently, Leadership has a sense of which sections should be supported by either full consensus or (rough) consensus. Of course we could always be wrong, but we will do our best. i. If there is a batch that contains a part that you do not support, then in the Consensus Call, we will ask you specifically which element or elements do you not support. In other words, if we grouped topics 1,2 and 3 together and you indicate that you do not support the batch, you will be asked to specify which of the Topics you do not support, and which element(s) within that topic you do not support. We will assume that the topics / elements you do not list are ones that you would support. So being specific will be important. Topics where we can already foresee that there will be a difference of opinion (eg., Closed Generics, Mechanisms of Last Resort), we will make sure we have those topics in the Consensus Call on their own (i.e., not in batches with other topics). All expressions of support / non support during the Consensus Call MUST be submitted through the formal mailing list. We will not be counting any responses to the Consensus Call that are not submitted on the list. It is critical that all of the information is on the record and documented. The Consensus Call is NOT A VOTE – Leadership will not be determining levels of support based on the quantity of responses, but will take into consideration other factors such as the groups with whom an individual associates, etc. We will be following Section 3.6 of the Working Group Guidelines (https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gn... <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-24oct19-en.pdf>).
Minority Reports are due just 2 days after the designation of Levels of Consensus. We know that is not a lot of time. However, given that we have had a draft final report, comments to the draft final report, extensive discussions of those comments of the draft final report, and you have seen several redlines already, we believe that if you disagree with the way the group is heading, you should pretty much know that now. There is no reason to wait until the designations of levels of support to start drafting. In fact, I am told that the ALAC has already been working on a minority report to certain topics for some time now. Bottom Line – you can start working on any minority report now. The worst thing that will happen is that you draft your report and there is a consensus call surprise where you find out you may not be in the minority and you decide not to submit the statement 😊
We are nearly there!!!!!!!!!
Thanks.
Your humble Leadership Team,
Cheryl and Jeff – Co-Chairs
With very special thanks to Martin, Annabeth, Robin and Flip who have been participating in Leadership calls for many months and providing valuable insight & of course to Steve, Emily and Julie, without whom, none of this would be possible
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My recommendation on the issue of the SubPro not hitting the 23 Dec deadline (if we are required to react to the missed deadline in some way) is to: 1) put this topic under AOB 2) decide (in whatever way is appropriate) to notify the SubPro team that a) we anticipate the deadline will not be hit, but understand they are close to finishing b) instruct them to continue work with alacrity but also allowing sufficient time for consensus calls and minority reports (we don’t want to short change this important step at this late stage) c) arbitrarily selecting some deadline certain, say 15 Feb, so that there is still an indication that the substantive work has closed or needs to be closed shortly. 3) Tell the SubPro leadership now that this is our plan so they do not waste valuable time crafting requests for extensions. I make this recommendation because it seems that the SubPro team is so close to the end that there is little in the way of effective intervention the Council could under take that would be constructive, and so our job is to get all the barriers to finishing out of their way. Best regards, Kurt
On Dec 11, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Berry,
I think that the planning PDFs for the 17DEC2020 might contain some dates not fitting the real planning for SubPro PDP (Also it might affect the colour codes of the project).
Sincerely Yours,
Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID
Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow)
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From: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com <mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Date: 11 December 2020 at 08:07:34 GMT+3 To: "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>>
All,
The Leadership Team met a few hours ago to discuss a number of issues including how to get to the finish line……We are nearly there!
As discussed on the last call (about 24 hours ago), we are making the following changes to the Work Plan:
11 December 2020 Latest Redline of Final Report containing changes from all topics discussed to date as well as changes (if any) as a result of the 9 Topical E-mails Meeting of the small team on Auctions to see if there can be any recommendations to the Full Working Group 14 December 2020 Discussing (a) Auctions Topic (results if any from small team; (b) Conflicts of Interest, (c) Applicant Freedom of Expression, and (d) Dispute Resolution Procedures after Delegation. 15 December 2020 Comments due to 11 December 2020 Redline Release of Any redlines to as a result of the topics discussed on 14 December 2020 17 December 2020 Comments due to December 15 Redline Working Group Call (already on your calendars) to close out any last issues Content Freeze / Lockdown – Other than if there are any changes to close out last issues, all content is locked down for the Consensus Call 22 December 2020 Final Report is released to the Working Group Commencement of Consensus Call (See some notes below) 5 January 2020 Consensus Call Ends 6 January 2020 Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team 7 January 2020 Call of the Working Group to discuss designations, answer questions, and hopefully celebrate a job well done 8 January 2020 Challenges to Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team are due (if any) Minority Reports (if any) are due 11 January 2020 Final Report delivered to the Council Document Deadline for discussion during January’s GNSO Council Meeting
Some Notes A longer note will follow in the next couple of days on how we will structure the Consensus Call. We strongly recommend that if you were not on the last working group call on 10 December 2020 at 03:00 UTC, please do go back and review at least the first 15-20 minutes of the call. (Link to Call <https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2020-12-07+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP.>)
Although more details will be provided later: Leadership will be grouping the Topics into batches for purposes of the Consensus Calls. We will not be voting on each recommendation / implementation guidance separately (as there are several hundred of them). We will do our best to only include in the batches the lesser controversial topics; stated differently, Leadership has a sense of which sections should be supported by either full consensus or (rough) consensus. Of course we could always be wrong, but we will do our best. i. If there is a batch that contains a part that you do not support, then in the Consensus Call, we will ask you specifically which element or elements do you not support. In other words, if we grouped topics 1,2 and 3 together and you indicate that you do not support the batch, you will be asked to specify which of the Topics you do not support, and which element(s) within that topic you do not support. We will assume that the topics / elements you do not list are ones that you would support. So being specific will be important. Topics where we can already foresee that there will be a difference of opinion (eg., Closed Generics, Mechanisms of Last Resort), we will make sure we have those topics in the Consensus Call on their own (i.e., not in batches with other topics). All expressions of support / non support during the Consensus Call MUST be submitted through the formal mailing list. We will not be counting any responses to the Consensus Call that are not submitted on the list. It is critical that all of the information is on the record and documented. The Consensus Call is NOT A VOTE – Leadership will not be determining levels of support based on the quantity of responses, but will take into consideration other factors such as the groups with whom an individual associates, etc. We will be following Section 3.6 of the Working Group Guidelines (https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gn... <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-24oct19-en.pdf>).
Minority Reports are due just 2 days after the designation of Levels of Consensus. We know that is not a lot of time. However, given that we have had a draft final report, comments to the draft final report, extensive discussions of those comments of the draft final report, and you have seen several redlines already, we believe that if you disagree with the way the group is heading, you should pretty much know that now. There is no reason to wait until the designations of levels of support to start drafting. In fact, I am told that the ALAC has already been working on a minority report to certain topics for some time now. Bottom Line – you can start working on any minority report now. The worst thing that will happen is that you draft your report and there is a consensus call surprise where you find out you may not be in the minority and you decide not to submit the statement 😊
We are nearly there!!!!!!!!!
Thanks.
Your humble Leadership Team,
Cheryl and Jeff – Co-Chairs
With very special thanks to Martin, Annabeth, Robin and Flip who have been participating in Leadership calls for many months and providing valuable insight & of course to Steve, Emily and Julie, without whom, none of this would be possible
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Can’t agree more with Kurt Flip Petillion fpetillion@petillion.law<mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law> +32484652653 www.petillion.law [id:image001.png@01D3691D.DA7539C0]<https://www.petillion.law/> Attorneys – Advocaten – Avocats From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com> Date: Friday, 11 December 2020 at 18:15 To: Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls My recommendation on the issue of the SubPro not hitting the 23 Dec deadline (if we are required to react to the missed deadline in some way) is to: 1) put this topic under AOB 2) decide (in whatever way is appropriate) to notify the SubPro team that a) we anticipate the deadline will not be hit, but understand they are close to finishing b) instruct them to continue work with alacrity but also allowing sufficient time for consensus calls and minority reports (we don’t want to short change this important step at this late stage) c) arbitrarily selecting some deadline certain, say 15 Feb, so that there is still an indication that the substantive work has closed or needs to be closed shortly. 3) Tell the SubPro leadership now that this is our plan so they do not waste valuable time crafting requests for extensions. I make this recommendation because it seems that the SubPro team is so close to the end that there is little in the way of effective intervention the Council could under take that would be constructive, and so our job is to get all the barriers to finishing out of their way. Best regards, Kurt On Dec 11, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello Berry, I think that the planning PDFs for the 17DEC2020 might contain some dates not fitting the real planning for SubPro PDP (Also it might affect the colour codes of the project). Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) Begin forwarded message: From: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Date: 11 December 2020 at 08:07:34 GMT+3 To: "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>> All, The Leadership Team met a few hours ago to discuss a number of issues including how to get to the finish line……We are nearly there! As discussed on the last call (about 24 hours ago), we are making the following changes to the Work Plan: * 11 December 2020 * Latest Redline of Final Report containing changes from all topics discussed to date as well as changes (if any) as a result of the 9 Topical E-mails * Meeting of the small team on Auctions to see if there can be any recommendations to the Full Working Group * 14 December 2020 * Discussing (a) Auctions Topic (results if any from small team; (b) Conflicts of Interest, (c) Applicant Freedom of Expression, and (d) Dispute Resolution Procedures after Delegation. * 15 December 2020 * Comments due to 11 December 2020 Redline * Release of Any redlines to as a result of the topics discussed on 14 December 2020 * 17 December 2020 * Comments due to December 15 Redline * Working Group Call (already on your calendars) to close out any last issues * Content Freeze / Lockdown – Other than if there are any changes to close out last issues, all content is locked down for the Consensus Call * 22 December 2020 * Final Report is released to the Working Group * Commencement of Consensus Call (See some notes below) * 5 January 2020 * Consensus Call Ends * 6 January 2020 * Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team * 7 January 2020 * Call of the Working Group to discuss designations, answer questions, and hopefully celebrate a job well done * 8 January 2020 * Challenges to Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team are due (if any) * Minority Reports (if any) are due * 11 January 2020 * Final Report delivered to the Council * Document Deadline for discussion during January’s GNSO Council Meeting Some Notes 1. A longer note will follow in the next couple of days on how we will structure the Consensus Call. We strongly recommend that if you were not on the last working group call on 10 December 2020 at 03:00 UTC, please do go back and review at least the first 15-20 minutes of the call. (Link to Call<https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2020-12-07+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP.>) 1. Although more details will be provided later: * Leadership will be grouping the Topics into batches for purposes of the Consensus Calls. We will not be voting on each recommendation / implementation guidance separately (as there are several hundred of them). * We will do our best to only include in the batches the lesser controversial topics; stated differently, Leadership has a sense of which sections should be supported by either full consensus or (rough) consensus. Of course we could always be wrong, but we will do our best. i. If there is a batch that contains a part that you do not support, then in the Consensus Call, we will ask you specifically which element or elements do you not support. In other words, if we grouped topics 1,2 and 3 together and you indicate that you do not support the batch, you will be asked to specify which of the Topics you do not support, and which element(s) within that topic you do not support. We will assume that the topics / elements you do not list are ones that you would support. So being specific will be important. * Topics where we can already foresee that there will be a difference of opinion (eg., Closed Generics, Mechanisms of Last Resort), we will make sure we have those topics in the Consensus Call on their own (i.e., not in batches with other topics). * All expressions of support / non support during the Consensus Call MUST be submitted through the formal mailing list. We will not be counting any responses to the Consensus Call that are not submitted on the list. It is critical that all of the information is on the record and documented. * The Consensus Call is NOT A VOTE – Leadership will not be determining levels of support based on the quantity of responses, but will take into consideration other factors such as the groups with whom an individual associates, etc. * We will be following Section 3.6 of the Working Group Guidelines (https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gn...). 1. Minority Reports are due just 2 days after the designation of Levels of Consensus. We know that is not a lot of time. However, given that we have had a draft final report, comments to the draft final report, extensive discussions of those comments of the draft final report, and you have seen several redlines already, we believe that if you disagree with the way the group is heading, you should pretty much know that now. There is no reason to wait until the designations of levels of support to start drafting. In fact, I am told that the ALAC has already been working on a minority report to certain topics for some time now. Bottom Line – you can start working on any minority report now. The worst thing that will happen is that you draft your report and there is a consensus call surprise where you find out you may not be in the minority and you decide not to submit the statement 😊 1. We are nearly there!!!!!!!!! Thanks. Your humble Leadership Team, Cheryl and Jeff – Co-Chairs With very special thanks to Martin, Annabeth, Robin and Flip who have been participating in Leadership calls for many months and providing valuable insight & of course to Steve, Emily and Julie, without whom, none of this would be possible _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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I also strongly agree with Kurt’s proposals. Tom From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Flip Petillion <fpetillion@petillion.law> Date: Saturday, 12 December 2020 at 4:18 am To: Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com>, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Can’t agree more with Kurt Flip Petillion fpetillion@petillion.law<mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law> +32484652653 www.petillion.law [id:image001.png@01D3691D.DA7539C0]<https://www.petillion.law/> Attorneys – Advocaten – Avocats From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com> Date: Friday, 11 December 2020 at 18:15 To: Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls My recommendation on the issue of the SubPro not hitting the 23 Dec deadline (if we are required to react to the missed deadline in some way) is to: 1) put this topic under AOB 2) decide (in whatever way is appropriate) to notify the SubPro team that a) we anticipate the deadline will not be hit, but understand they are close to finishing b) instruct them to continue work with alacrity but also allowing sufficient time for consensus calls and minority reports (we don’t want to short change this important step at this late stage) c) arbitrarily selecting some deadline certain, say 15 Feb, so that there is still an indication that the substantive work has closed or needs to be closed shortly. 3) Tell the SubPro leadership now that this is our plan so they do not waste valuable time crafting requests for extensions. I make this recommendation because it seems that the SubPro team is so close to the end that there is little in the way of effective intervention the Council could under take that would be constructive, and so our job is to get all the barriers to finishing out of their way. Best regards, Kurt On Dec 11, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello Berry, I think that the planning PDFs for the 17DEC2020 might contain some dates not fitting the real planning for SubPro PDP (Also it might affect the colour codes of the project). Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) Begin forwarded message: From: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Date: 11 December 2020 at 08:07:34 GMT+3 To: "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>> All, The Leadership Team met a few hours ago to discuss a number of issues including how to get to the finish line……We are nearly there! As discussed on the last call (about 24 hours ago), we are making the following changes to the Work Plan: 1. 11 December 2020 * Latest Redline of Final Report containing changes from all topics discussed to date as well as changes (if any) as a result of the 9 Topical E-mails * Meeting of the small team on Auctions to see if there can be any recommendations to the Full Working Group 1. 14 December 2020 * Discussing (a) Auctions Topic (results if any from small team; (b) Conflicts of Interest, (c) Applicant Freedom of Expression, and (d) Dispute Resolution Procedures after Delegation. 1. 15 December 2020 * Comments due to 11 December 2020 Redline * Release of Any redlines to as a result of the topics discussed on 14 December 2020 1. 17 December 2020 * Comments due to December 15 Redline * Working Group Call (already on your calendars) to close out any last issues * Content Freeze / Lockdown – Other than if there are any changes to close out last issues, all content is locked down for the Consensus Call 1. 22 December 2020 * Final Report is released to the Working Group * Commencement of Consensus Call (See some notes below) 1. 5 January 2020 * Consensus Call Ends 1. 6 January 2020 * Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team 1. 7 January 2020 * Call of the Working Group to discuss designations, answer questions, and hopefully celebrate a job well done 1. 8 January 2020 * Challenges to Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team are due (if any) * Minority Reports (if any) are due 1. 11 January 2020 * Final Report delivered to the Council * Document Deadline for discussion during January’s GNSO Council Meeting Some Notes 1. A longer note will follow in the next couple of days on how we will structure the Consensus Call. We strongly recommend that if you were not on the last working group call on 10 December 2020 at 03:00 UTC, please do go back and review at least the first 15-20 minutes of the call. (Link to Call<https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2020-12-07+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP.>) 1. Although more details will be provided later: * Leadership will be grouping the Topics into batches for purposes of the Consensus Calls. We will not be voting on each recommendation / implementation guidance separately (as there are several hundred of them). * We will do our best to only include in the batches the lesser controversial topics; stated differently, Leadership has a sense of which sections should be supported by either full consensus or (rough) consensus. Of course we could always be wrong, but we will do our best. i. If there is a batch that contains a part that you do not support, then in the Consensus Call, we will ask you specifically which element or elements do you not support. In other words, if we grouped topics 1,2 and 3 together and you indicate that you do not support the batch, you will be asked to specify which of the Topics you do not support, and which element(s) within that topic you do not support. We will assume that the topics / elements you do not list are ones that you would support. So being specific will be important. * Topics where we can already foresee that there will be a difference of opinion (eg., Closed Generics, Mechanisms of Last Resort), we will make sure we have those topics in the Consensus Call on their own (i.e., not in batches with other topics). * All expressions of support / non support during the Consensus Call MUST be submitted through the formal mailing list. We will not be counting any responses to the Consensus Call that are not submitted on the list. It is critical that all of the information is on the record and documented. * The Consensus Call is NOT A VOTE – Leadership will not be determining levels of support based on the quantity of responses, but will take into consideration other factors such as the groups with whom an individual associates, etc. * We will be following Section 3.6 of the Working Group Guidelines (https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gn...). 1. Minority Reports are due just 2 days after the designation of Levels of Consensus. We know that is not a lot of time. However, given that we have had a draft final report, comments to the draft final report, extensive discussions of those comments of the draft final report, and you have seen several redlines already, we believe that if you disagree with the way the group is heading, you should pretty much know that now. There is no reason to wait until the designations of levels of support to start drafting. In fact, I am told that the ALAC has already been working on a minority report to certain topics for some time now. Bottom Line – you can start working on any minority report now. The worst thing that will happen is that you draft your report and there is a consensus call surprise where you find out you may not be in the minority and you decide not to submit the statement 😊 1. We are nearly there!!!!!!!!! Thanks. Your humble Leadership Team, Cheryl and Jeff – Co-Chairs With very special thanks to Martin, Annabeth, Robin and Flip who have been participating in Leadership calls for many months and providing valuable insight & of course to Steve, Emily and Julie, without whom, none of this would be possible _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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I agree with Kurt's proposal. The situation, where a PDP makes good steps, but contrary to the previous commitments should be taken seriously. I think the proposal is the way out of this loop. P. S: we should not pretend that everything is fine either. Maxim Alzoba On 12 Dec 2020, 01:37, at 01:37, Tom Dale <tomwdale@gmail.com> wrote:
I also strongly agree with Kurt’s proposals.
Tom
From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Flip Petillion <fpetillion@petillion.law> Date: Saturday, 12 December 2020 at 4:18 am To: Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com>, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls
Can’t agree more with Kurt
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From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com> Date: Friday, 11 December 2020 at 18:15 To: Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls
My recommendation on the issue of the SubPro not hitting the 23 Dec deadline (if we are required to react to the missed deadline in some way) is to:
1) put this topic under AOB
2) decide (in whatever way is appropriate) to notify the SubPro team that a) we anticipate the deadline will not be hit, but understand they are close to finishing b) instruct them to continue work with alacrity but also allowing sufficient time for consensus calls and minority reports (we don’t want to short change this important step at this late stage) c) arbitrarily selecting some deadline certain, say 15 Feb, so that there is still an indication that the substantive work has closed or needs to be closed shortly.
3) Tell the SubPro leadership now that this is our plan so they do not waste valuable time crafting requests for extensions.
I make this recommendation because it seems that the SubPro team is so close to the end that there is little in the way of effective intervention the Council could under take that would be constructive, and so our job is to get all the barriers to finishing out of their way.
Best regards,
Kurt
On Dec 11, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Berry,
I think that the planning PDFs for the 17DEC2020 might contain some dates not fitting the real planning for SubPro PDP (Also it might affect the colour codes of the project).
Sincerely Yours,
Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID
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From: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Date: 11 December 2020 at 08:07:34 GMT+3 To: "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>>
All,
The Leadership Team met a few hours ago to discuss a number of issues including how to get to the finish line……We are nearly there!
As discussed on the last call (about 24 hours ago), we are making the following changes to the Work Plan:
1. 11 December 2020
* Latest Redline of Final Report containing changes from all topics discussed to date as well as changes (if any) as a result of the 9 Topical E-mails * Meeting of the small team on Auctions to see if there can be any recommendations to the Full Working Group
1. 14 December 2020
* Discussing (a) Auctions Topic (results if any from small team; (b) Conflicts of Interest, (c) Applicant Freedom of Expression, and (d) Dispute Resolution Procedures after Delegation.
1. 15 December 2020
* Comments due to 11 December 2020 Redline * Release of Any redlines to as a result of the topics discussed on 14 December 2020
1. 17 December 2020
* Comments due to December 15 Redline * Working Group Call (already on your calendars) to close out any last issues * Content Freeze / Lockdown – Other than if there are any changes to close out last issues, all content is locked down for the Consensus Call
1. 22 December 2020
* Final Report is released to the Working Group * Commencement of Consensus Call (See some notes below)
1. 5 January 2020
* Consensus Call Ends
1. 6 January 2020
* Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team
1. 7 January 2020
* Call of the Working Group to discuss designations, answer questions, and hopefully celebrate a job well done
1. 8 January 2020
* Challenges to Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team are due (if any) * Minority Reports (if any) are due
1. 11 January 2020
* Final Report delivered to the Council * Document Deadline for discussion during January’s GNSO Council Meeting
Some Notes
1. A longer note will follow in the next couple of days on how we will structure the Consensus Call. We strongly recommend that if you were not on the last working group call on 10 December 2020 at 03:00 UTC, please do go back and review at least the first 15-20 minutes of the call. (Link to Call<https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2020-12-07+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP.>)
1. Although more details will be provided later:
* Leadership will be grouping the Topics into batches for purposes of the Consensus Calls. We will not be voting on each recommendation / implementation guidance separately (as there are several hundred of them). * We will do our best to only include in the batches the lesser controversial topics; stated differently, Leadership has a sense of which sections should be supported by either full consensus or (rough) consensus. Of course we could always be wrong, but we will do our best. i. If there is a batch that contains a part that you do not support, then in the Consensus Call, we will ask you specifically which element or elements do you not support. In other words, if we grouped topics 1,2 and 3 together and you indicate that you do not support the batch, you will be asked to specify which of the Topics you do not support, and which element(s) within that topic you do not support. We will assume that the topics / elements you do not list are ones that you would support. So being specific will be important.
* Topics where we can already foresee that there will be a difference of opinion (eg., Closed Generics, Mechanisms of Last Resort), we will make sure we have those topics in the Consensus Call on their own (i.e., not in batches with other topics). * All expressions of support / non support during the Consensus Call MUST be submitted through the formal mailing list. We will not be counting any responses to the Consensus Call that are not submitted on the list. It is critical that all of the information is on the record and documented. * The Consensus Call is NOT A VOTE – Leadership will not be determining levels of support based on the quantity of responses, but will take into consideration other factors such as the groups with whom an individual associates, etc. * We will be following Section 3.6 of the Working Group Guidelines (https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gn...).
1. Minority Reports are due just 2 days after the designation of Levels of Consensus. We know that is not a lot of time. However, given that we have had a draft final report, comments to the draft final report, extensive discussions of those comments of the draft final report, and you have seen several redlines already, we believe that if you disagree with the way the group is heading, you should pretty much know that now. There is no reason to wait until the designations of levels of support to start drafting. In fact, I am told that the ALAC has already been working on a minority report to certain topics for some time now. Bottom Line – you can start working on any minority report now. The worst thing that will happen is that you draft your report and there is a consensus call surprise where you find out you may not be in the minority and you decide not to submit the statement 😊
1. We are nearly there!!!!!!!!!
Thanks.
Your humble Leadership Team,
Cheryl and Jeff – Co-Chairs
With very special thanks to Martin, Annabeth, Robin and Flip who have been participating in Leadership calls for many months and providing valuable insight & of course to Steve, Emily and Julie, without whom, none of this would be possible
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Hi everyone, Thanks for this. Just to let you know that we’ll have an AOB item on Thursday on what council is to expect on Subpro between now and the January deadline. Flip, if for that AOB, as a liaison you would help us with both the status wrt submission to Council in January and if necessary the unknowns. If Council concurs that there’s a need to communicate with the WG regarding the timing, we’ll do that; but as all have noted, we’ll do that in a light-handed fashion and make sure people don’t waste time exchanging correspondence during the last mile. We’ll try and have as much discussion as we can during the call, but if Flip you would have the status posted on the list prior to the call, it would facilitate discussions, even after the call if we were to run out of time. Hope that seems reasonable to everyone, and will help councilors and their respective SG/Cs be fully informed prior to the submission of the final report. Regards, Philippe From: council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tom Dale Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 11:37 PM To: Flip Petillion <fpetillion@petillion.law>; Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com>; Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com>; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls I also strongly agree with Kurt’s proposals. Tom From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Flip Petillion <fpetillion@petillion.law<mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law>> Date: Saturday, 12 December 2020 at 4:18 am To: Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com>>, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Can’t agree more with Kurt Flip Petillion fpetillion@petillion.law<mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law> +32484652653 www.petillion.law<http://www.petillion.law> [id:image001.png@01D3691D.DA7539C0]<https://www.petillion.law/> Attorneys – Advocaten – Avocats From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com>> Date: Friday, 11 December 2020 at 18:15 To: Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls My recommendation on the issue of the SubPro not hitting the 23 Dec deadline (if we are required to react to the missed deadline in some way) is to: 1) put this topic under AOB 2) decide (in whatever way is appropriate) to notify the SubPro team that a) we anticipate the deadline will not be hit, but understand they are close to finishing b) instruct them to continue work with alacrity but also allowing sufficient time for consensus calls and minority reports (we don’t want to short change this important step at this late stage) c) arbitrarily selecting some deadline certain, say 15 Feb, so that there is still an indication that the substantive work has closed or needs to be closed shortly. 3) Tell the SubPro leadership now that this is our plan so they do not waste valuable time crafting requests for extensions. I make this recommendation because it seems that the SubPro team is so close to the end that there is little in the way of effective intervention the Council could under take that would be constructive, and so our job is to get all the barriers to finishing out of their way. Best regards, Kurt On Dec 11, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello Berry, I think that the planning PDFs for the 17DEC2020 might contain some dates not fitting the real planning for SubPro PDP (Also it might affect the colour codes of the project). Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) Begin forwarded message: From: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Date: 11 December 2020 at 08:07:34 GMT+3 To: "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>> All, The Leadership Team met a few hours ago to discuss a number of issues including how to get to the finish line……We are nearly there! As discussed on the last call (about 24 hours ago), we are making the following changes to the Work Plan: 1. 11 December 2020 * Latest Redline of Final Report containing changes from all topics discussed to date as well as changes (if any) as a result of the 9 Topical E-mails * Meeting of the small team on Auctions to see if there can be any recommendations to the Full Working Group 1. 14 December 2020 * Discussing (a) Auctions Topic (results if any from small team; (b) Conflicts of Interest, (c) Applicant Freedom of Expression, and (d) Dispute Resolution Procedures after Delegation. 1. 15 December 2020 * Comments due to 11 December 2020 Redline * Release of Any redlines to as a result of the topics discussed on 14 December 2020 1. 17 December 2020 * Comments due to December 15 Redline * Working Group Call (already on your calendars) to close out any last issues * Content Freeze / Lockdown – Other than if there are any changes to close out last issues, all content is locked down for the Consensus Call 1. 22 December 2020 * Final Report is released to the Working Group * Commencement of Consensus Call (See some notes below) 1. 5 January 2020 * Consensus Call Ends 1. 6 January 2020 * Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team 1. 7 January 2020 * Call of the Working Group to discuss designations, answer questions, and hopefully celebrate a job well done 1. 8 January 2020 * Challenges to Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team are due (if any) * Minority Reports (if any) are due 1. 11 January 2020 * Final Report delivered to the Council * Document Deadline for discussion during January’s GNSO Council Meeting Some Notes 1. A longer note will follow in the next couple of days on how we will structure the Consensus Call. We strongly recommend that if you were not on the last working group call on 10 December 2020 at 03:00 UTC, please do go back and review at least the first 15-20 minutes of the call. (Link to Call<https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2020-12-07+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP.>) 1. Although more details will be provided later: * Leadership will be grouping the Topics into batches for purposes of the Consensus Calls. We will not be voting on each recommendation / implementation guidance separately (as there are several hundred of them). * We will do our best to only include in the batches the lesser controversial topics; stated differently, Leadership has a sense of which sections should be supported by either full consensus or (rough) consensus. Of course we could always be wrong, but we will do our best. i. If there is a batch that contains a part that you do not support, then in the Consensus Call, we will ask you specifically which element or elements do you not support. In other words, if we grouped topics 1,2 and 3 together and you indicate that you do not support the batch, you will be asked to specify which of the Topics you do not support, and which element(s) within that topic you do not support. We will assume that the topics / elements you do not list are ones that you would support. So being specific will be important. * Topics where we can already foresee that there will be a difference of opinion (eg., Closed Generics, Mechanisms of Last Resort), we will make sure we have those topics in the Consensus Call on their own (i.e., not in batches with other topics). * All expressions of support / non support during the Consensus Call MUST be submitted through the formal mailing list. We will not be counting any responses to the Consensus Call that are not submitted on the list. It is critical that all of the information is on the record and documented. * The Consensus Call is NOT A VOTE – Leadership will not be determining levels of support based on the quantity of responses, but will take into consideration other factors such as the groups with whom an individual associates, etc. * We will be following Section 3.6 of the Working Group Guidelines (https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gn...). 1. Minority Reports are due just 2 days after the designation of Levels of Consensus. We know that is not a lot of time. However, given that we have had a draft final report, comments to the draft final report, extensive discussions of those comments of the draft final report, and you have seen several redlines already, we believe that if you disagree with the way the group is heading, you should pretty much know that now. There is no reason to wait until the designations of levels of support to start drafting. In fact, I am told that the ALAC has already been working on a minority report to certain topics for some time now. Bottom Line – you can start working on any minority report now. The worst thing that will happen is that you draft your report and there is a consensus call surprise where you find out you may not be in the minority and you decide not to submit the statement 😊 1. We are nearly there!!!!!!!!! Thanks. Your humble Leadership Team, Cheryl and Jeff – Co-Chairs With very special thanks to Martin, Annabeth, Robin and Flip who have been participating in Leadership calls for many months and providing valuable insight & of course to Steve, Emily and Julie, without whom, none of this would be possible _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Hi Philippe, That’s a good plan. Best Flip Flip Petillion fpetillion@petillion.law<mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law> +32484652653 www.petillion.law [id:image001.png@01D3691D.DA7539C0]<https://www.petillion.law/> Attorneys – Advocaten – Avocats From: "philippe.fouquart@orange.com" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com> Date: Monday, 14 December 2020 at 11:28 To: Tom Dale <tomwdale@gmail.com>, Flip Petillion <fpetillion@petillion.law>, Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com>, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Hi everyone, Thanks for this. Just to let you know that we’ll have an AOB item on Thursday on what council is to expect on Subpro between now and the January deadline. Flip, if for that AOB, as a liaison you would help us with both the status wrt submission to Council in January and if necessary the unknowns. If Council concurs that there’s a need to communicate with the WG regarding the timing, we’ll do that; but as all have noted, we’ll do that in a light-handed fashion and make sure people don’t waste time exchanging correspondence during the last mile. We’ll try and have as much discussion as we can during the call, but if Flip you would have the status posted on the list prior to the call, it would facilitate discussions, even after the call if we were to run out of time. Hope that seems reasonable to everyone, and will help councilors and their respective SG/Cs be fully informed prior to the submission of the final report. Regards, Philippe From: council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tom Dale Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 11:37 PM To: Flip Petillion <fpetillion@petillion.law>; Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com>; Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com>; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls I also strongly agree with Kurt’s proposals. Tom From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Flip Petillion <fpetillion@petillion.law<mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law>> Date: Saturday, 12 December 2020 at 4:18 am To: Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com>>, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Can’t agree more with Kurt Flip Petillion fpetillion@petillion.law<mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law> +32484652653 www.petillion.law<http://www.petillion.law> [id:image001.png@01D3691D.DA7539C0]<https://www.petillion.law/> Attorneys – Advocaten – Avocats From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com>> Date: Friday, 11 December 2020 at 18:15 To: Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls My recommendation on the issue of the SubPro not hitting the 23 Dec deadline (if we are required to react to the missed deadline in some way) is to: 1) put this topic under AOB 2) decide (in whatever way is appropriate) to notify the SubPro team that a) we anticipate the deadline will not be hit, but understand they are close to finishing b) instruct them to continue work with alacrity but also allowing sufficient time for consensus calls and minority reports (we don’t want to short change this important step at this late stage) c) arbitrarily selecting some deadline certain, say 15 Feb, so that there is still an indication that the substantive work has closed or needs to be closed shortly. 3) Tell the SubPro leadership now that this is our plan so they do not waste valuable time crafting requests for extensions. I make this recommendation because it seems that the SubPro team is so close to the end that there is little in the way of effective intervention the Council could under take that would be constructive, and so our job is to get all the barriers to finishing out of their way. Best regards, Kurt On Dec 11, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello Berry, I think that the planning PDFs for the 17DEC2020 might contain some dates not fitting the real planning for SubPro PDP (Also it might affect the colour codes of the project). Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) Begin forwarded message: From: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Work Plan Changes and Preliminary Information on Consensus Calls Date: 11 December 2020 at 08:07:34 GMT+3 To: "gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>> All, The Leadership Team met a few hours ago to discuss a number of issues including how to get to the finish line……We are nearly there! As discussed on the last call (about 24 hours ago), we are making the following changes to the Work Plan: 1. 11 December 2020 * Latest Redline of Final Report containing changes from all topics discussed to date as well as changes (if any) as a result of the 9 Topical E-mails * Meeting of the small team on Auctions to see if there can be any recommendations to the Full Working Group 1. 14 December 2020 * Discussing (a) Auctions Topic (results if any from small team; (b) Conflicts of Interest, (c) Applicant Freedom of Expression, and (d) Dispute Resolution Procedures after Delegation. 1. 15 December 2020 * Comments due to 11 December 2020 Redline * Release of Any redlines to as a result of the topics discussed on 14 December 2020 1. 17 December 2020 * Comments due to December 15 Redline * Working Group Call (already on your calendars) to close out any last issues * Content Freeze / Lockdown – Other than if there are any changes to close out last issues, all content is locked down for the Consensus Call 1. 22 December 2020 * Final Report is released to the Working Group * Commencement of Consensus Call (See some notes below) 1. 5 January 2020 * Consensus Call Ends 1. 6 January 2020 * Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team 1. 7 January 2020 * Call of the Working Group to discuss designations, answer questions, and hopefully celebrate a job well done 1. 8 January 2020 * Challenges to Designation of Levels of Support by Working Group Leadership Team are due (if any) * Minority Reports (if any) are due 1. 11 January 2020 * Final Report delivered to the Council * Document Deadline for discussion during January’s GNSO Council Meeting Some Notes 1. A longer note will follow in the next couple of days on how we will structure the Consensus Call. We strongly recommend that if you were not on the last working group call on 10 December 2020 at 03:00 UTC, please do go back and review at least the first 15-20 minutes of the call. (Link to Call<https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2020-12-07+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP.>) 1. Although more details will be provided later: * Leadership will be grouping the Topics into batches for purposes of the Consensus Calls. We will not be voting on each recommendation / implementation guidance separately (as there are several hundred of them). * We will do our best to only include in the batches the lesser controversial topics; stated differently, Leadership has a sense of which sections should be supported by either full consensus or (rough) consensus. Of course we could always be wrong, but we will do our best. i. If there is a batch that contains a part that you do not support, then in the Consensus Call, we will ask you specifically which element or elements do you not support. In other words, if we grouped topics 1,2 and 3 together and you indicate that you do not support the batch, you will be asked to specify which of the Topics you do not support, and which element(s) within that topic you do not support. We will assume that the topics / elements you do not list are ones that you would support. So being specific will be important. * Topics where we can already foresee that there will be a difference of opinion (eg., Closed Generics, Mechanisms of Last Resort), we will make sure we have those topics in the Consensus Call on their own (i.e., not in batches with other topics). * All expressions of support / non support during the Consensus Call MUST be submitted through the formal mailing list. We will not be counting any responses to the Consensus Call that are not submitted on the list. It is critical that all of the information is on the record and documented. * The Consensus Call is NOT A VOTE – Leadership will not be determining levels of support based on the quantity of responses, but will take into consideration other factors such as the groups with whom an individual associates, etc. * We will be following Section 3.6 of the Working Group Guidelines (https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gn...). 1. Minority Reports are due just 2 days after the designation of Levels of Consensus. We know that is not a lot of time. However, given that we have had a draft final report, comments to the draft final report, extensive discussions of those comments of the draft final report, and you have seen several redlines already, we believe that if you disagree with the way the group is heading, you should pretty much know that now. There is no reason to wait until the designations of levels of support to start drafting. In fact, I am told that the ALAC has already been working on a minority report to certain topics for some time now. Bottom Line – you can start working on any minority report now. The worst thing that will happen is that you draft your report and there is a consensus call surprise where you find out you may not be in the minority and you decide not to submit the statement 😊 1. We are nearly there!!!!!!!!! Thanks. Your humble Leadership Team, Cheryl and Jeff – Co-Chairs With very special thanks to Martin, Annabeth, Robin and Flip who have been participating in Leadership calls for many months and providing valuable insight & of course to Steve, Emily and Julie, without whom, none of this would be possible _______________________________________________ Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Flip Petillion -
Kurt Pritz -
Maxim Alzoba -
philippe.fouquart＠orange.com -
Tom Dale