FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council
Forwarded From: David W. Maher [mailto:dmaher@pir.org] Dear Glen: This is the notice of the Contracted Party House of the GNSO that we have elected Jeff Neuman as Vice Chair of the Council, by agreement of the Registries and Registrars Stakeholder Groups, to serve in the new Council. Please let me know if you have any questions. David David W. Maher Chair, Registries Stakeholder Group Senior Vice President - Law & Policy Public Interest Registry CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and deleting this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation
Sorry, but I'm a little confused. Since we are in the process of a second round of elections for the Chair position, shouldn't the Contracted Party House nomination/confirmation of its Vice-Chair be postponed till that is over? (BTW I ask not because I necessarily anticipate a problem with the run-off ballot, but because the Operating Procedures contemplate the possibility of a further nomination and voting period in the event of an unsuccessful run-off ballot, and state that in that (or indeed in any) event a Chair and Vice Chair can't be from the same SG.) Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 03301USAEmail: mary.wong@law.unh.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>> From: Glen de Saint Géry<Glen@icann.org> To:GNSO Council <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 12/1/2010 2:22 PM Subject: [council] FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council Forwarded From: David W. Maher [mailto:dmaher@pir.org] Dear Glen: This is the notice of the Contracted Party House of the GNSO that we have elected Jeff Neuman as Vice Chair of the Council, by agreement of the Registries and Registrars Stakeholder Groups, to serve in the new Council. Please let me know if you have any questions. David David W. Maher Chair, Registries Stakeholder Group Senior Vice President - Law & Policy Public Interest Registry CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and deleting this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation As of August 30, 2010, Franklin Pierce Law Center has affiliated with the University of New Hampshire and is now known as the University of New Hampshire School of Law. Please note that all email addresses have changed and now follow the convention: firstname.lastname@law.unh.edu. For more information on the University of New Hampshire School of Law, please visit law.unh.edu
Mary, Please note my comments below. Chuck From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:00 PM To: GNSO Council; Glen de Saint Géry Subject: Re: [council] FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council Sorry, but I'm a little confused. Since we are in the process of a second round of elections for the Chair position, shouldn't the Contracted Party House nomination/confirmation of its Vice-Chair be postponed till that is over? [Gomes, Chuck] There is one major problem with that approach Mary : If no chair is elected in the second round, 1) the vice chairs assume the Council leadership at the end of the AGM in Cartagena until such time as a chair is elected. and that could not happen if the vice chairs were not already elected, and 2) a new nomination period for chair cannot be initiated any sooner than 30 days. With this in mind, I trust that the Non-Contracted Party House is not waiting until a chair is elected before electing a vice chair. I believe I mentioned in at least one previous meeting that the Houses needed to elect the vice chairs in time for them to lead the Council if needed. (BTW I ask not because I necessarily anticipate a problem with the run-off ballot, but because the Operating Procedures contemplate the possibility of a further nomination and voting period in the event of an unsuccessful run-off ballot, and state that in that (or indeed in any) event a Chair and Vice Chair can't be from the same SG.) [Gomes, Chuck] These are more issues that should be dealt with in the procedures. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
From: Glen de Saint Géry<Glen@icann.org> To: GNSO Council <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 12/1/2010 2:22 PM Subject: [council] FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council Forwarded From: David W. Maher [mailto:dmaher@pir.org] Dear Glen: This is the notice of the Contracted Party House of the GNSO that we have elected Jeff Neuman as Vice Chair of the Council, by agreement of the Registries and Registrars Stakeholder Groups, to serve in the new Council. Please let me know if you have any questions. David David W. Maher Chair, Registries Stakeholder Group Senior Vice President - Law & Policy Public Interest Registry CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and deleting this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation As of August 30, 2010, Franklin Pierce Law Center has affiliated with the University of New Hampshire and is now known as the University of New Hampshire School of Law. Please note that all email addresses have changed and now follow the convention: firstname.lastname@law.unh.edu. For more information on the University of New Hampshire School of Law, please visit law.unh.edu <http://law.unh.edu>
Why not leaving a bit of flexibility to the houses in deciding at what time they may announce their resp. VC selection? I understand that there is the question whether a chair candidate who is - after several rounds - not elected could be given a chance to stand for VC election, too. This should be taken into consideration by the houses. Even in case one house has already announced their resp. VC and a further chair nomination and voting period appears to be necessary the procedures leave the flexibility to the houses to nominate their VC as chair candidate and select a VC from a different SG. Don't feel confused - just use your flexibility and chances! Wolf-Ulrich Knoben Deutsche Telekom AG Wolf-Ulrich Knoben Heinrich-Hertz-Str. 3-7 D - 64295 Darmstadt +49 2244 873999 (Tel.) +49 2151 5300 5206 (PC-Fax) +49 151 1452 5867 (Mobil) http://www.telekom.com <http://www.telekom.com/> Deutsche Telekom AG Aufsichtsrat: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Vorsitzender) Vorstand: René Obermann (Vorsitzender) Timotheus Höttges (stellvertretender Vorsitzender) Manfred Balz, Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Guido Kerkhoff, Edward R. Kozel, Thomas Sattelberger Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn WEEE-Reg.-Nr.: DE50478376 _____ Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Gomes, Chuck Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember 2010 21:14 An: Mary Wong; GNSO Council; Glen de Saint Géry Betreff: RE: [council] FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council Mary, Please note my comments below. Chuck From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:00 PM To: GNSO Council; Glen de Saint Géry Subject: Re: [council] FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council Sorry, but I'm a little confused. Since we are in the process of a second round of elections for the Chair position, shouldn't the Contracted Party House nomination/confirmation of its Vice-Chair be postponed till that is over? [Gomes, Chuck] There is one major problem with that approach Mary : If no chair is elected in the second round, 1) the vice chairs assume the Council leadership at the end of the AGM in Cartagena until such time as a chair is elected. and that could not happen if the vice chairs were not already elected, and 2) a new nomination period for chair cannot be initiated any sooner than 30 days. With this in mind, I trust that the Non-Contracted Party House is not waiting until a chair is elected before electing a vice chair. I believe I mentioned in at least one previous meeting that the Houses needed to elect the vice chairs in time for them to lead the Council if needed. (BTW I ask not because I necessarily anticipate a problem with the run-off ballot, but because the Operating Procedures contemplate the possibility of a further nomination and voting period in the event of an unsuccessful run-off ballot, and state that in that (or indeed in any) event a Chair and Vice Chair can't be from the same SG.) [Gomes, Chuck] These are more issues that should be dealt with in the procedures. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
From: Glen de Saint Géry<Glen@icann.org> To: GNSO Council <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 12/1/2010 2:22 PM Subject: [council] FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council Forwarded From: David W. Maher [mailto:dmaher@pir.org] Dear Glen: This is the notice of the Contracted Party House of the GNSO that we have elected Jeff Neuman as Vice Chair of the Council, by agreement of the Registries and Registrars Stakeholder Groups, to serve in the new Council. Please let me know if you have any questions. David David W. Maher Chair, Registries Stakeholder Group Senior Vice President - Law & Policy Public Interest Registry CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and deleting this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation As of August 30, 2010, Franklin Pierce Law Center has affiliated with the University of New Hampshire and is now known as the University of New Hampshire School of Law. Please note that all email addresses have changed and now follow the convention: firstname.lastname@law.unh.edu. For more information on the University of New Hampshire School of Law, please visit <http://law.unh.edu> law.unh.edu
Good points Wolf. I don't think there is anything in the GOP that prevents an elected VC to be considered as Chair in a future round if there is one. If that person was elected chair, then a new VC could be elected. Chuck From: KnobenW@telekom.de [mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:49 AM To: Gomes, Chuck; Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu; council@gnso.icann.org; Glen@icann.org Subject: AW: [council] FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council Why not leaving a bit of flexibility to the houses in deciding at what time they may announce their resp. VC selection? I understand that there is the question whether a chair candidate who is - after several rounds - not elected could be given a chance to stand for VC election, too. This should be taken into consideration by the houses. Even in case one house has already announced their resp. VC and a further chair nomination and voting period appears to be necessary the procedures leave the flexibility to the houses to nominate their VC as chair candidate and select a VC from a different SG. Don't feel confused - just use your flexibility and chances! Wolf-Ulrich Knoben Deutsche Telekom AG Wolf-Ulrich Knoben Heinrich-Hertz-Str. 3-7 D - 64295 Darmstadt +49 2244 873999 (Tel.) +49 2151 5300 5206 (PC-Fax) +49 151 1452 5867 (Mobil) http://www.telekom.com <http://www.telekom.com/> Deutsche Telekom AG Aufsichtsrat: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Vorsitzender) Vorstand: René Obermann (Vorsitzender) Timotheus Höttges (stellvertretender Vorsitzender) Manfred Balz, Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Guido Kerkhoff, Edward R. Kozel, Thomas Sattelberger Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn WEEE-Reg.-Nr.: DE50478376 ________________________________ Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Gomes, Chuck Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember 2010 21:14 An: Mary Wong; GNSO Council; Glen de Saint Géry Betreff: RE: [council] FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council Mary, Please note my comments below. Chuck From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:00 PM To: GNSO Council; Glen de Saint Géry Subject: Re: [council] FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council Sorry, but I'm a little confused. Since we are in the process of a second round of elections for the Chair position, shouldn't the Contracted Party House nomination/confirmation of its Vice-Chair be postponed till that is over? [Gomes, Chuck] There is one major problem with that approach Mary : If no chair is elected in the second round, 1) the vice chairs assume the Council leadership at the end of the AGM in Cartagena until such time as a chair is elected. and that could not happen if the vice chairs were not already elected, and 2) a new nomination period for chair cannot be initiated any sooner than 30 days. With this in mind, I trust that the Non-Contracted Party House is not waiting until a chair is elected before electing a vice chair. I believe I mentioned in at least one previous meeting that the Houses needed to elect the vice chairs in time for them to lead the Council if needed. (BTW I ask not because I necessarily anticipate a problem with the run-off ballot, but because the Operating Procedures contemplate the possibility of a further nomination and voting period in the event of an unsuccessful run-off ballot, and state that in that (or indeed in any) event a Chair and Vice Chair can't be from the same SG.) [Gomes, Chuck] These are more issues that should be dealt with in the procedures. Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: mary.wong@law.unh.edu Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584 >>> From: Glen de Saint Géry<Glen@icann.org> To: GNSO Council <council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 12/1/2010 2:22 PM Subject: [council] FW: Contracted Party House - election of Vice Chair of GNSO Council Forwarded From: David W. Maher [mailto:dmaher@pir.org] Dear Glen: This is the notice of the Contracted Party House of the GNSO that we have elected Jeff Neuman as Vice Chair of the Council, by agreement of the Registries and Registrars Stakeholder Groups, to serve in the new Council. Please let me know if you have any questions. David David W. Maher Chair, Registries Stakeholder Group Senior Vice President - Law & Policy Public Interest Registry CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and deleting this copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation As of August 30, 2010, Franklin Pierce Law Center has affiliated with the University of New Hampshire and is now known as the University of New Hampshire School of Law. Please note that all email addresses have changed and now follow the convention: firstname.lastname@law.unh.edu. For more information on the University of New Hampshire School of Law, please visit law.unh.edu <http://law.unh.edu>
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