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He says "next version of book". Does that mean there will be others and the next won't be "final"? Adrian Kinderis
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Dear All, As discussed on today's Council call, attached is the presentation on the CWG Rec 6 Report. Best Regards, Margie _____________ Margie Milam Senior Policy Counselor ICANN _____________
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Dear All, The presentation on the CWG Rec 6 Report has also been posted on page http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/ and can be viewed directly at: http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/presentation-cwg-report-recommendation-... Thank you. Glen From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Margie Milam Dear All, As discussed on today's Council call, attached is the presentation on the CWG Rec 6 Report. Best Regards, Margie _____________ Margie Milam Senior Policy Counselor ICANN _____________
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This presentation from Margie is the sort of presentation that is helpful for the Board, but requires that staff have enough time prior to the Board meeting to complete. Regards, Bruce From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Margie Milam Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2010 9:12 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Presentation to the Council on Rec6 Dear All, As discussed on today's Council call, attached is the presentation on the CWG Rec 6 Report. Best Regards, Margie _____________ Margie Milam Senior Policy Counselor ICANN _____________
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That's right Bruce. Let's assume that the 14 days buys us enough time for staff to do so right? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 3:52 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Presentation to the Council on Rec6 This presentation from Margie is the sort of presentation that is helpful for the Board, but requires that staff have enough time prior to the Board meeting to complete. Regards, Bruce From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Margie Milam Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2010 9:12 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Presentation to the Council on Rec6 Dear All, As discussed on today's Council call, attached is the presentation on the CWG Rec 6 Report. Best Regards, Margie _____________ Margie Milam Senior Policy Counselor ICANN _____________
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Thanks Bruce. Very firm. I like it. However, it is all in how you look at it. The staff can certainly put something forward that they may consider "final" and yes the Board may not approve it. However, the staff could still have thought that they were "final". My question was to Kurt, and therefore staff, in that, does he believe that the next version will be the one they expect the Board to sign off on or will it be sent back for public comment. A legitimate question given staff's history of announcing that they expect future drafts every time they have released one. A response would be appreciated. Adrian Kinderis -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 3:50 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] Kurt Question Hello Adrian,
Does that mean there will be others and the next won't be "final"?
It will be final when the Board approves it. Until then it is always a draft. Regards, Bruce Tonkin
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Hi Adrian: Evidently, when the subject line includes the word "Kurt, " the email is labelled as junk. I'm not sure what that means. Bruce is right, of course. The parallel I would draw is with the ICANN budget. ICANN posts a "Proposed Final Budget" prior to the June ICANN meeting. There is comment before and during the meeting that the Board considers. Similarly, with new gTLDs, ICANN could publish a proposed final Guidebook. When proposed, the Board could decide to approve the Guidebook as approved, or to approve it with certain tweaks, or to have more extensive analysis again. As you know, there has been comment and analysis on many, many aspects of the Guidebook. All the comments to date have been addressed, although not always in the way the commenters request. Given the diversity of interests, I think that is impossible. Given the depth of analysis to date and the most recent set of Board resolutions, perhaps review of comments in this next version of the Guidebook be limited in some way to changes in the Guidebook or new topics. What do you think? Kurt On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
Thanks Bruce. Very firm. I like it.
However, it is all in how you look at it.
The staff can certainly put something forward that they may consider "final" and yes the Board may not approve it. However, the staff could still have thought that they were "final".
My question was to Kurt, and therefore staff, in that, does he believe that the next version will be the one they expect the Board to sign off on or will it be sent back for public comment.
A legitimate question given staff's history of announcing that they expect future drafts every time they have released one.
A response would be appreciated.
Adrian Kinderis
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 3:50 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] Kurt Question
Hello Adrian,
Does that mean there will be others and the next won't be "final"?
It will be final when the Board approves it. Until then it is always a draft.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
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Kurt, Kurt, Thanks for taking the time to respond. Your budget analogy is a good one. I understand that, like the budget, comment from the Community could be accepted and considered all the way up the Board meeting. So, with that in mind are you able to say whether the staff will be putting forward to the Board a "Proposed Final Applicant Guidebook" prior to the December ICANN Meeting? With respect to your idea on the review of comments being limited to certain areas. I like the idea in principle and would be supportive of it. However, as we have seen in the past, no area is off limits to certain community and even those that we considered "locked away" some time ago seem to be reopened at their whim. It may be difficult to roll this out. An answer to the above would be appreciated. Adrian Kinderis -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Pritz [mailto:kurt.pritz@icann.org] Sent: Saturday, 9 October 2010 5:15 AM To: Adrian Kinderis Cc: Bruce Tonkin; Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] Kurt Question Hi Adrian: Evidently, when the subject line includes the word "Kurt, " the email is labelled as junk. I'm not sure what that means. Bruce is right, of course. The parallel I would draw is with the ICANN budget. ICANN posts a "Proposed Final Budget" prior to the June ICANN meeting. There is comment before and during the meeting that the Board considers. Similarly, with new gTLDs, ICANN could publish a proposed final Guidebook. When proposed, the Board could decide to approve the Guidebook as approved, or to approve it with certain tweaks, or to have more extensive analysis again. As you know, there has been comment and analysis on many, many aspects of the Guidebook. All the comments to date have been addressed, although not always in the way the commenters request. Given the diversity of interests, I think that is impossible. Given the depth of analysis to date and the most recent set of Board resolutions, perhaps review of comments in this next version of the Guidebook be limited in some way to changes in the Guidebook or new topics. What do you think? Kurt On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
Thanks Bruce. Very firm. I like it.
However, it is all in how you look at it.
The staff can certainly put something forward that they may consider "final" and yes the Board may not approve it. However, the staff could still have thought that they were "final".
My question was to Kurt, and therefore staff, in that, does he believe that the next version will be the one they expect the Board to sign off on or will it be sent back for public comment.
A legitimate question given staff's history of announcing that they expect future drafts every time they have released one.
A response would be appreciated.
Adrian Kinderis
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 3:50 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] Kurt Question
Hello Adrian,
Does that mean there will be others and the next won't be "final"?
It will be final when the Board approves it. Until then it is always a draft.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
participants (5)
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Adrian Kinderis
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Bruce Tonkin
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Glen de Saint Géry
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Kurt Pritz
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Margie Milam