The point, as far as I'm concerned, is doing GNSO outreach. As for the other questions, I'll let Thomas answer if he wants to. If me doing a 10-minute talk on the way the GNSO works is going to give rise to suspicions, rather than constructive comments on how this can help improve awareness of what the GNSO Council does, I'm happy not to do it. Are you objecting to me doing it? Do others feel I should not do it? Please let me know asap. It's because I have been invited in my capacity as Chair that I wanted to give the Council prior warning in case this posed a problem to some. Stéphane Le 19 oct. 2011 à 17:56, Adrian Kinderis a écrit :

I don’t get it.

What’s the point? Who is the audience of the reception etc...

It doesn’t make sense to me.

Adrian Kinderis

From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 6:09 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Council Subject: [council] Fwd: eco reception

Councillors,

FYI, I have been invited by Thomas Rickert and ECO to give a brief 10 minute introduction to the GNSO at their reception, happening here in Dakar on Monday.

Stéphane

Début du message réexpédié :

De : Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Objet : eco reception Date : 19 octobre 2011 15:25:15 HAEC À : Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>

Dear Stéphane, please find below the invitation to the eco reception on Monday, which eco is doing to send out shorty.

Your short address does not need to take longer than 10 mins. I have called it "GNSO - A Brief Introduction to Current and Future Challenges".

I am looking forward to seeing you on Saturday.

Best, Thomas

I support the outreach effort. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Rosemary Sinclair Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Oktober 2011 08:51 An: Stéphane Van Gelder; Adrian Kinderis Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Council Betreff: RE: [council] Fwd: eco reception I think it's a good idea... Rosemary Rosemary Sinclair | Director | External Relations Australian School of Business | The University of New South Wales Level 3, Building L5, UNSW Sydney 2052 Telephone: +61 (2) 9385 6228 | Fax +61 (2) 9385 5933 | Web: www.asb.unsw.edu.au <http://www.asb.unsw.edu.au/> ________________________________ This email is intended only for the use of the individual named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of the Australian School of Business at The University of New South Wales. Before opening any attachments please check them for viruses and defects. CRICOS Provider no. 00098G Knowledge@Australian School of Business, a web-based business journal produced in partnership with the Wharton School. To read online or subscribe, visit www.knowledge.asb.unsw.edu.au <http://www.knowledge.asb.unsw.edu.au/> From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 11:14 AM To: Adrian Kinderis Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Council Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: eco reception The point, as far as I'm concerned, is doing GNSO outreach. As for the other questions, I'll let Thomas answer if he wants to. If me doing a 10-minute talk on the way the GNSO works is going to give rise to suspicions, rather than constructive comments on how this can help improve awareness of what the GNSO Council does, I'm happy not to do it. Are you objecting to me doing it? Do others feel I should not do it? Please let me know asap. It's because I have been invited in my capacity as Chair that I wanted to give the Council prior warning in case this posed a problem to some. Stéphane Le 19 oct. 2011 à 17:56, Adrian Kinderis a écrit : I don't get it. What's the point? Who is the audience of the reception etc... It doesn't make sense to me. Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 6:09 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Council Subject: [council] Fwd: eco reception Councillors, FYI, I have been invited by Thomas Rickert and ECO to give a brief 10 minute introduction to the GNSO at their reception, happening here in Dakar on Monday. Stéphane Début du message réexpédié : De : Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Objet : eco reception Date : 19 octobre 2011 15:25:15 HAEC À : Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Dear Stéphane, please find below the invitation to the eco reception on Monday, which eco is doing to send out shorty. Your short address does not need to take longer than 10 mins. I have called it "GNSO - A Brief Introduction to Current and Future Challenges". I am looking forward to seeing you on Saturday. Best, Thomas

Adrian, I agree, there's something "confusingly similar" which on the top level should be avoided. I'm sure ECO will reserve a cool beer for you - in case you pass by the reception to hear Stéphane's German speech :-) Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Oktober 2011 16:03 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; rosemary.sinclair@unsw.edu.au; stephane.vangelder@indom.com Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Betreff: RE: [council] Fwd: eco reception I apologise. I am a goose. Clearly I was thinking of .eco and not ECO. Too bloody confusing. SVG should absolutely speak there, in german. Aren't you glad you are getting rid of me!?? Ado 0 GNSO Council 1347 Adrian Kinderis From: KnobenW@telekom.de [mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 12:29 PM To: rosemary.sinclair@unsw.edu.au; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; Adrian Kinderis Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: AW: [council] Fwd: eco reception I support the outreach effort. Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Rosemary Sinclair Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Oktober 2011 08:51 An: Stéphane Van Gelder; Adrian Kinderis Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Council Betreff: RE: [council] Fwd: eco reception I think it's a good idea... Rosemary Rosemary Sinclair | Director | External Relations Australian School of Business | The University of New South Wales Level 3, Building L5, UNSW Sydney 2052 Telephone: +61 (2) 9385 6228 | Fax +61 (2) 9385 5933 | Web: www.asb.unsw.edu.au <http://www.asb.unsw.edu.au/> ________________________________ This email is intended only for the use of the individual named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of the Australian School of Business at The University of New South Wales. Before opening any attachments please check them for viruses and defects. CRICOS Provider no. 00098G Knowledge@Australian School of Business, a web-based business journal produced in partnership with the Wharton School. To read online or subscribe, visit www.knowledge.asb.unsw.edu.au <http://www.knowledge.asb.unsw.edu.au/> From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 11:14 AM To: Adrian Kinderis Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Council Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: eco reception The point, as far as I'm concerned, is doing GNSO outreach. As for the other questions, I'll let Thomas answer if he wants to. If me doing a 10-minute talk on the way the GNSO works is going to give rise to suspicions, rather than constructive comments on how this can help improve awareness of what the GNSO Council does, I'm happy not to do it. Are you objecting to me doing it? Do others feel I should not do it? Please let me know asap. It's because I have been invited in my capacity as Chair that I wanted to give the Council prior warning in case this posed a problem to some. Stéphane Le 19 oct. 2011 à 17:56, Adrian Kinderis a écrit : I don't get it. What's the point? Who is the audience of the reception etc... It doesn't make sense to me. Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 6:09 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Council Subject: [council] Fwd: eco reception Councillors, FYI, I have been invited by Thomas Rickert and ECO to give a brief 10 minute introduction to the GNSO at their reception, happening here in Dakar on Monday. Stéphane Début du message réexpédié : De : Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de> Objet : eco reception Date : 19 octobre 2011 15:25:15 HAEC À : Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Dear Stéphane, please find below the invitation to the eco reception on Monday, which eco is doing to send out shorty. Your short address does not need to take longer than 10 mins. I have called it "GNSO - A Brief Introduction to Current and Future Challenges". I am looking forward to seeing you on Saturday. Best, Thomas

Cool. Last I heard there was quite a lot of concern about SVG making unofficial comments... damned if he does damned if he doesn't! So long as he is prepared to go to every event and do the same if requested. My fear is the precedent it sets. I just can't understand why they want him there, quite frankly (aside from his French joie de vivre). I suspect it potentially could be to legitimise their interests, which could be dangerous. Wait for the press release the next day that includes a photograph of the GNSO Chair speaking at the .eco party (especially when this has been a hotly debated TLD!). Who else is speaking? Adrian Kinderis From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch] Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 12:26 PM To: Stéphane Van Gelder Cc: Adrian Kinderis; council@gnso.icann.org Council Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: eco reception eco always holds a reception/party at ICANN meetings, very relaxed and informal events, mostly German speakers. I can't see the harm of Stéphane giving some non-official comments on what's up in the GNSO these days to a crowd of cheery people clutching beers... Bill On Oct 20, 2011, at 2:14 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote: The point, as far as I'm concerned, is doing GNSO outreach. As for the other questions, I'll let Thomas answer if he wants to. If me doing a 10-minute talk on the way the GNSO works is going to give rise to suspicions, rather than constructive comments on how this can help improve awareness of what the GNSO Council does, I'm happy not to do it. Are you objecting to me doing it? Do others feel I should not do it? Please let me know asap. It's because I have been invited in my capacity as Chair that I wanted to give the Council prior warning in case this posed a problem to some. Stéphane Le 19 oct. 2011 à 17:56, Adrian Kinderis a écrit : I don't get it. What's the point? Who is the audience of the reception etc... It doesn't make sense to me. Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 6:09 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Council Subject: [council] Fwd: eco reception Councillors, FYI, I have been invited by Thomas Rickert and ECO to give a brief 10 minute introduction to the GNSO at their reception, happening here in Dakar on Monday. Stéphane Début du message réexpédié : De : Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de<mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de>> Objet : eco reception Date : 19 octobre 2011 15:25:15 HAEC À : Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com<mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com>> Dear Stéphane, please find below the invitation to the eco reception on Monday, which eco is doing to send out shorty. Your short address does not need to take longer than 10 mins. I have called it "GNSO - A Brief Introduction to Current and Future Challenges". I am looking forward to seeing you on Saturday. Best, Thomas