All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: "Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet." Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
Hi Jonathan, I would like to know more about this organization. Are they part of any constituency or considering to be into one? Best regards, Osvaldo ________________________________ De: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] En nombre de Jonathan Robinson Enviado el: Lunes, 17 de Junio de 2013 13:38 Para: council@gnso.icann.org Asunto: [council] Presentation from the DNA All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: "Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet." Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan ________________________________ El presente correo y cualquier posible archivo adjunto est? dirigido ?nicamente al destinatario del mensaje y contiene informaci?n que puede ser confidencial. Si Ud. no es el destinatario correcto por favor notifique al remitente respondiendo anexando este mensaje y elimine inmediatamente el e-mail y los posibles archivos adjuntos al mismo de su sistema. Est? prohibida cualquier utilizaci?n, difusi?n o copia de este e-mail por cualquier persona o entidad que no sean las espec?ficas destinatarias del mensaje. ANTEL no acepta ninguna responsabilidad con respecto a cualquier comunicaci?n que haya sido emitida incumpliendo nuestra Pol?tica de Seguridad de la Informaci?n This e-mail and any attachment is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee(s). If you are not intended recipient please inform the sender immediately, answering this e-mail and delete it as well as the attached files. Any use, circulation or copy of this e-mail by any person or entity that is not the specific addressee(s) is prohibited. ANTEL is not responsible for any communication emitted without respecting our Information Security Policy.
Jonathan, thanks for this. It this the initiative that runs the website whatdomain.org? I tried to find out who is behind it on the website, but could not find any information at all. Can we get a bit more information on the background of the organization? Thanks, Thomas Am 17.06.2013 um 18:37 schrieb "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@afilias.info>:
All,
I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban.
The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to:
“Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.”
Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this.
Thanks,
Jonathan
Thank-you Thomas and Osvaldo. Agreed, that would be helpful and I have asked for a little more context / positioning. Jonathan From: Thomas Rickert [mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de] Sent: 17 June 2013 17:48 To: jrobinson@afilias.info Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Jonathan, thanks for this. It this the initiative that runs the website whatdomain.org? I tried to find out who is behind it on the website, but could not find any information at all. Can we get a bit more information on the background of the organization? Thanks, Thomas Am 17.06.2013 um 18:37 schrieb "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@afilias.info>: All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: "Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet." Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
All, I am a big supporter of the DNA. However, given the request from the CSG to allocate some hours to conduct regular constituency/SG business, do we have the time for this on the weekend. Perhaps during the open meeting on Wednesday would be better? Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 12:51 PM To: 'Thomas Rickert' Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA Thank-you Thomas and Osvaldo. Agreed, that would be helpful and I have asked for a little more context / positioning. Jonathan From: Thomas Rickert [mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de] Sent: 17 June 2013 17:48 To: jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info> Cc: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Jonathan, thanks for this. It this the initiative that runs the website whatdomain.org<http://whatdomain.org>? I tried to find out who is behind it on the website, but could not find any information at all. Can we get a bit more information on the background of the organization? Thanks, Thomas Am 17.06.2013 um 18:37 schrieb "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>>: All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: "Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet." Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
AFAIK, the DNA is going to be an advocacy trade association of Registrars and Registries set up to further awareness of the general public about the new and the existing TLDs. The organization is supposed to operate outside of ICANN, i.e. it will not be a constituency/SG. For more information, see "http://www.whatdomain.org/" Best, Volker
All,
I am a big supporter of the DNA. However, given the request from the CSG to allocate some hours to conduct regular constituency/SG business, do we have the time for this on the weekend. Perhaps during the open meeting on Wednesday would be better?
*Jeffrey J. Neuman** **Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs*
*From:*owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Robinson *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 12:51 PM *To:* 'Thomas Rickert' *Cc:* council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA
Thank-you Thomas and Osvaldo.
Agreed, that would be helpful and I have asked for a little more context / positioning.
Jonathan
*From:*Thomas Rickert [mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de] *Sent:* 17 June 2013 17:48 *To:* jrobinson@afilias.info <mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info> *Cc:* council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA
Jonathan,
thanks for this.
It this the initiative that runs the website whatdomain.org <http://whatdomain.org>? I tried to find out who is behind it on the website, but could not find any information at all. Can we get a bit more information on the background of the organization?
Thanks,
Thomas
Am 17.06.2013 um 18:37 schrieb "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@afilias.info <mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>>:
All,
I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban.
The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industryand it describes its mission as being to:
"Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet."
Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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I'm happy to hear 15 minutes. On 18/06/2013, at 12:37 AM, "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@afilias.info> wrote:
All,
I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban.
The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to:
“Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.”
Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this.
Thanks,
Jonathan
Jonathan, I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm? In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others. We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization. Cheers, Berard -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> To: council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: “Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.” Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
Thanks John. From: John Berard [mailto:johnberard@aol.com] Sent: 17 June 2013 20:04 To: jrobinson@afilias.info; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Jonathan, I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm? In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others. We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization. Cheers, Berard -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> To: council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: “Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.” Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
So far I have seen support for a council discussion triggered by a DNA presentation – in case it’s more than just lobbying. Since the weekend schedule in Durban at this stage doesn’t allow for an additional slot we should think about a feasible allocation on the Wednesday meeting. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Jonathan Robinson Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:36 PM To: 'John Berard' ; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA Thanks John. From: John Berard [mailto:johnberard@aol.com] Sent: 17 June 2013 20:04 To: jrobinson@afilias.info; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Jonathan, I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm? In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others. We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization. Cheers, Berard -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> To: council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: “Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.” Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
Dear All, The IPC agrees that the Domain Name Association, as well as all other groups, should be permitted to make a presentation to the GNSO Council in Durban, with the caveat that agendas and/or PowerPoint materials are provided to the Council well in advance addressing threshold questions about who the group is and what subjects they intend to discuss. In the alternative, as we are quickly approaching our time in Durban, South Africa, the IPC recommends that the Domain Name Association make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups and constituencies in order to facilitate a more complete dialog regarding topics and questions germane to each stakeholder group and constituency. Best, Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> <http://www.fenixlegal.eu/> NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, <http://www.fenixlegal.eu/> Thank you On 21 jun 2013 18:10 "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> wrote:
So far I have seen support for a council discussion triggered by a DNA presentation – in case it’s more than just lobbying. Since the weekend schedule in Durban at this stage doesn’t allow for an additional slot we should think about a feasible allocation on the Wednesday meeting. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:36 PM To: 'John Berard' <johnberard@aol.com> ; <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA Thanks John. From:John Berard [mailto:johnberard@aol.com] Sent: 17 June 2013 20:04 To: jrobinson@afilias.info; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Jonathan, I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm? In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others. We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization. Cheers, Berard -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Robinson <<jrobinson@afilias.info>> To: council <<council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: “Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.” Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
Petter, I am sure you meant that "the Domain Name Association offer to make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups..." I would not want to make their appearance before the Council contingent upon all the group accepting. Cheers, Berard --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA From: "Petter Rindforth" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: 6/25/13 2:22 pm To: council@gnso.icann.org, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> Dear All, The IPC agrees that the Domain Name Association, as well as all other groups, should be permitted to make a presentation to the GNSO Council in Durban, with the caveat that agendas and/or PowerPoint materials are provided to the Council well in advance addressing threshold questions about who the group is and what subjects they intend to discuss. In the alternative, as we are quickly approaching our time in Durban, South Africa, the IPC recommends that the Domain Name Association make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups and constituencies in order to facilitate a more complete dialog regarding topics and questions germane to each stakeholder group and constituency. Best, Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you On 21 jun 2013 18:10 "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> wrote: So far I have seen support for a council discussion triggered by a DNA presentation - in case it's more than just lobbying. Since the weekend schedule in Durban at this stage doesn't allow for an additional slot we should think about a feasible allocation on the Wednesday meeting. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Jonathan Robinson Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:36 PM To: 'John Berard' ; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA Thanks John. From: John Berard [mailto:johnberard@aol.com] Sent: 17 June 2013 20:04 To: jrobinson@afilias.info; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Jonathan, I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm? In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others. We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization. Cheers, Berard -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> To: council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: “Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.” Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
Are there any concerns from council members re a DNA presentation at the council meeting on Wednesday? Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: john@crediblecontext.com Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:38 AM To: Petter Rindforth ; council@gnso.icann.org ; WUKnoben Subject: RE: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Petter, I am sure you meant that "the Domain Name Association offer to make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups..." I would not want to make their appearance before the Council contingent upon all the group accepting. Cheers, Berard --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA From: "Petter Rindforth" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: 6/25/13 2:22 pm To: council@gnso.icann.org, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> Dear All, The IPC agrees that the Domain Name Association, as well as all other groups, should be permitted to make a presentation to the GNSO Council in Durban, with the caveat that agendas and/or PowerPoint materials are provided to the Council well in advance addressing threshold questions about who the group is and what subjects they intend to discuss. In the alternative, as we are quickly approaching our time in Durban, South Africa, the IPC recommends that the Domain Name Association make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups and constituencies in order to facilitate a more complete dialog regarding topics and questions germane to each stakeholder group and constituency. Best, Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you On 21 jun 2013 18:10 "WUKnoben" mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de wrote: So far I have seen support for a council discussion triggered by a DNA presentation – in case it’s more than just lobbying. Since the weekend schedule in Durban at this stage doesn’t allow for an additional slot we should think about a feasible allocation on the Wednesday meeting. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Jonathan Robinson Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:36 PM To: 'John Berard' ; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA Thanks John. From: John Berard [mailto:johnberard@aol.com] Sent: 17 June 2013 20:04 To: jrobinson@afilias.info; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Jonathan, I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm? In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others. We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization. Cheers, Berard -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> To: council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: “Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.” Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
Thanks. From my perspective, there are a couple of issues: 1. Adrian has gone quiet on me. I need to confirm he is still interested. 2. Our Wednesday meetings could probably do with something to make them / keep them interesting and with broad GNSO (and beyond) appeal. This is useful from that perspective so it works for me. Jonathan From: WUKnoben [mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de] Sent: 26 June 2013 12:50 To: Petter Rindforth; council@gnso.icann.org; john@crediblecontext.com Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Are there any concerns from council members re a DNA presentation at the council meeting on Wednesday? Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: john@crediblecontext.com Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:38 AM To: Petter Rindforth <mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> ; council@gnso.icann.org ; WUKnoben <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> Subject: RE: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Petter, I am sure you meant that "the Domain Name Association offer to make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups..." I would not want to make their appearance before the Council contingent upon all the group accepting. Cheers, Berard --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA From: "Petter Rindforth" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: 6/25/13 2:22 pm To: council@gnso.icann.org, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> Dear All, The IPC agrees that the Domain Name Association, as well as all other groups, should be permitted to make a presentation to the GNSO Council in Durban, with the caveat that agendas and/or PowerPoint materials are provided to the Council well in advance addressing threshold questions about who the group is and what subjects they intend to discuss. In the alternative, as we are quickly approaching our time in Durban, South Africa, the IPC recommends that the Domain Name Association make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups and constituencies in order to facilitate a more complete dialog regarding topics and questions germane to each stakeholder group and constituency. Best, Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you On 21 jun 2013 18:10 "WUKnoben" mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de wrote: So far I have seen support for a council discussion triggered by a DNA presentation – in case it’s more than just lobbying. Since the weekend schedule in Durban at this stage doesn’t allow for an additional slot we should think about a feasible allocation on the Wednesday meeting. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Jonathan Robinson <mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:36 PM To: 'John Berard' <mailto:johnberard@aol.com> ; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA Thanks John. From: John Berard [mailto:johnberard@aol.com] Sent: 17 June 2013 20:04 To: jrobinson@afilias.info; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Jonathan, I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm? In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others. We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization. Cheers, Berard -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> To: council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: “Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.” Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
Jonathan, I have no doubt that the DNA presentation will stir interest. Some will see it as special attention, some will ask for similar time on the agenda, some will wonder if it is an early sign of the nature of ICANN to come, heck, some may even walk out. Should be interesting. I am for that. Berard --------- Original Message --------- Subject: RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA From: "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@afilias.info> Date: 6/26/13 5:05 am To: "'WUKnoben'" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>, "'Petter Rindforth'" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu>, council@gnso.icann.org, john@crediblecontext.com Thanks. From my perspective, there are a couple of issues: 1. Adrian has gone quiet on me. I need to confirm he is still interested. 2. Our Wednesday meetings could probably do with something to make them / keep them interesting and with broad GNSO (and beyond) appeal. This is useful from that perspective so it works for me. Jonathan From: WUKnoben [mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de] Sent: 26 June 2013 12:50 To: Petter Rindforth; council@gnso.icann.org; john@crediblecontext.com Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Are there any concerns from council members re a DNA presentation at the council meeting on Wednesday? Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: john@crediblecontext.com Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:38 AM To: Petter Rindforth ; council@gnso.icann.org ; WUKnoben Subject: RE: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Petter, I am sure you meant that "the Domain Name Association offer to make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups..." I would not want to make their appearance before the Council contingent upon all the group accepting. Cheers, Berard --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA From: "Petter Rindforth" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: 6/25/13 2:22 pm To: council@gnso.icann.org, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> Dear All, The IPC agrees that the Domain Name Association, as well as all other groups, should be permitted to make a presentation to the GNSO Council in Durban, with the caveat that agendas and/or PowerPoint materials are provided to the Council well in advance addressing threshold questions about who the group is and what subjects they intend to discuss. In the alternative, as we are quickly approaching our time in Durban, South Africa, the IPC recommends that the Domain Name Association make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups and constituencies in order to facilitate a more complete dialog regarding topics and questions germane to each stakeholder group and constituency. Best, Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you On 21 jun 2013 18:10 "WUKnoben" mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de wrote: So far I have seen support for a council discussion triggered by a DNA presentation - in case it's more than just lobbying. Since the weekend schedule in Durban at this stage doesn't allow for an additional slot we should think about a feasible allocation on the Wednesday meeting. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Jonathan Robinson Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:36 PM To: 'John Berard' ; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA Thanks John. From: John Berard [mailto:johnberard@aol.com] Sent: 17 June 2013 20:04 To: jrobinson@afilias.info; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Jonathan, I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm? In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others. We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization. Cheers, Berard -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> To: council <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA All, I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban. The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to: “Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.” Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this. Thanks, Jonathan
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi - to be honest, I am not sure why a special presentation to Council is needed. There is the public open session when we can hear from all community members. There is also the session where constituency chairs present updates - why not slot it in one of these? Joy On 26/06/2013 11:49 p.m., WUKnoben wrote:
Are there any concerns from council members re a DNA presentation at the council meeting on Wednesday?
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* john@crediblecontext.com <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:38 AM *To:* Petter Rindforth <mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> ; council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> ; WUKnoben <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> *Subject:* RE: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA
Petter,
I am sure you meant that "the Domain Name Association */offer to/* make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups..." I would not want to make their appearance before the Council contingent upon all the group accepting.
Cheers,
Berard
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA From: "Petter Rindforth" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: 6/25/13 2:22 pm To: council@gnso.icann.org, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>
Dear All,
The IPC agrees that the Domain Name Association, as well as all other groups, should be permitted to make a presentation to the GNSO Council in Durban, with the caveat that agendas and/or PowerPoint materials are provided to the Council well in advance addressing threshold questions about who the group is and what subjects they intend to discuss.
In the alternative, as we are quickly approaching our time in Durban, South Africa, the IPC recommends that the Domain Name Association make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups and constituencies in order to facilitate a more complete dialog regarding topics and questions germane to each stakeholder group and constituency.
Best,
Petter
-- Petter Rindforth, LL M
Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu <mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> www.fenixlegal.eu <http://www.fenixlegal.eu>
NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu <http://www.fenixlegal.eu> Thank you
On 21 jun 2013 18:10 "WUKnoben" mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de wrote:
So far I have seen support for a council discussion triggered by a DNA presentation – in case it’s more than just lobbying.
Since the weekend schedule in Durban at this stage doesn’t allow for an additional slot we should think about a feasible allocation on the Wednesday meeting.
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* Jonathan Robinson <mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info> *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 9:36 PM *To:* 'John Berard' <mailto:johnberard@aol.com> ; council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject:* RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA
Thanks John.
*From:*John Berard [mailto:johnberard@aol.com] *Sent:* 17 June 2013 20:04 *To:* jrobinson@afilias.info; council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA
Jonathan,
I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm?
In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others.
We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization.
Cheers,
Berard
-----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info <mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> To: council <council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA
All,
I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban.
The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to:
“Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.”
Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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I agree with Joy, that may be the most practical way to do it. -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.euwww.fenixlegal.eu><http://www.fenixlegal. eu/> On 26 jun 2013 22:34 "joy" <joy@apc.org> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi - to be honest, I am not sure why a special presentation to Council is needed. There is the public open session when we can hear from all community members. There is also the session where constituency chairs present updates - why not slot it in one of these? Joy On 26/06/2013 11:49 p.m., WUKnoben wrote:
Are there any concerns from council members re a DNA presentation at the council meeting on Wednesday?
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* <john@crediblecontext.com> <mailto:john@crediblecontext.com> <john@crediblecontext.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:38 AM *To:* Petter Rindforth <mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> ; <council@gnso.icann.org> <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> <council@gnso.icann.org> ; WUKnoben <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> *Subject:* RE: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA Petter, I am sure you meant that "the Domain Name Association */offer to/* make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups..." I would not want to make their appearance before the Council contingent upon all the group accepting.
Cheers,
Berard
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA From: "Petter Rindforth" <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> Date: 6/25/13 2:22 pm To: <council@gnso.icann.org>, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>
Dear All,
The IPC agrees that the Domain Name Association, as well as all other groups, should be permitted to make a presentation to the GNSO Council in Durban, with the caveat that agendas and/or PowerPoint materials are provided to the Council well in advance addressing threshold questions about who the group is and what subjects they intend to discuss.
In the alternative, as we are quickly approaching our time in Durban, South Africa, the IPC recommends that the Domain Name Association make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups and constituencies in order to facilitate a more complete dialog regarding topics and questions germane to each stakeholder group and constituency.
Best,
Petter
-- Petter Rindforth, LL M
Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> <mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> <http://www.fenixlegal.eu/> <http://www.fenixlegal.eu> <http://www.fenixlegal.eu/>
NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, <http://www.fenixlegal.eu/> <http://www.fenixlegal.eu> <http://www.fenixlegal.eu/> Thank you
On 21 jun 2013 18:10 "WUKnoben" mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> wrote:
So far I have seen support for a council discussion triggered by a DNA presentation – in case it’s more than just lobbying. Since the weekend schedule in Durban at this stage doesn’t allow for an additional slot we should think about a feasible allocation on the Wednesday meeting.
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* Jonathan Robinson <mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info> <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 9:36 PM *To:* 'John Berard' <mailto:johnberard@aol.com> <johnberard@aol.com> ; <council@gnso.icann.org> <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> <council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject:* RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA
Thanks John.
*From:*John Berard [mailto:johnberard@aol.com <johnberard@aol.com>] *Sent:* 17 June 2013 20:04 *To:* <jrobinson@afilias.info>; <council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA
Jonathan,
I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm?
In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others.
We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization.
Cheers,
Berard
-----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Robinson <<jrobinson@afilias.info> <mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info> <jrobinson@afilias.info>> To: council <<council@gnso.icann.org> <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> <council@gnso.icann.org>> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA
All,
I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban.
The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to:
“Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.”
Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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David Cake -
John Berard -
john＠crediblecontext.com -
Jonathan Robinson -
joy -
Neuman, Jeff -
Novoa, Osvaldo -
Petter Rindforth -
Thomas Rickert -
Volker Greimann -
WUKnoben