GNSO related meetings and evnts in Lisbon
Dear Council Members, Please see the attached skeleton schedule for GNSO related meetings in Lisbon. Please let me have your comments and any modifications you would like made before I send it to the constituencies. The room names are not yet available. I will consult with Bruce when it would suit him best to be interviewed as was proposed on the Council call. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen -- Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat - ICANN gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
Looks okay to me Glen. Chuck Gomes "This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized use, distribution, or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify sender immediately and destroy/delete the original transmission."
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:56 PM To: 'Council GNSO' Subject: [council] GNSO related meetings and evnts in Lisbon
Dear Council Members,
Please see the attached skeleton schedule for GNSO related meetings in Lisbon.
Please let me have your comments and any modifications you would like made before I send it to the constituencies. The room names are not yet available.
I will consult with Bruce when it would suit him best to be interviewed as was proposed on the Council call.
Thank you. Kind regards,
Glen -- Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat - ICANN gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
Dear Bruce, Glen I read the schedule for the GNSO activities for Lisbon that came out just yesterday. I note in particular that the IDN observer discussions are to take place on Sunday Morning. I have been working with Glen the past week to get rooms for IDN observers conveying that people would not arrive until Sunday evening. In this regard, I find it puzzling that we are scheduling a Sunday morning discussion on IDNs, which would close out most of the group that would be traveling to Lisbon, just for this occasion. I would like to request the we move the IDN discussions to Monday morning or similar, to accommodate those that have already purchased their tickets and obtained their Visas to travel to Lisbon. Changing their tickets and Visa would entail a tasking and expensive exercise. Therefore, I would kindly request that we be sensitive towards this and the topic of IDNs be re-scheduled to accommodate the audience that are coming just for this reasons. Thank you and kind regards, Sophia On 16/03/07, GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG < gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Council Members,
Please see the attached skeleton schedule for GNSO related meetings in Lisbon.
Please let me have your comments and any modifications you would like made before I send it to the constituencies. The room names are not yet available.
I will consult with Bruce when it would suit him best to be interviewed as was proposed on the Council call.
Thank you. Kind regards,
Glen -- Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat - ICANN gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
Quoting Sophia:
I note in particular that the IDN observer discussions are to take place on Sunday Morning.
Are the meetings on Saturday and Sunday morning intended to be wrap-up meetings of the RN and IDN working groups, or are they intended to mark the commencement of Council's consideration of the finished w.g. reports? I had assumed the latter, with the presence of any w.g. members or observers who are able to attend providing useful opportunity for the rapid clarification of any questions that councilors may have. I note that the RN draft report is 125 pages long, and even if the IDN report is significantly shorter (I have no idea how extensive Ram intends for it actually to be). Council giving these reports the consideration that they deserve can easily fill the weekend slots. If I have misunderstood their purpose, we don't just need to consider rescheduling them, we need to shoehorn additional time into what already appears to be a saturated agenda. /Cary
Are the meetings on Saturday and Sunday morning intended to be wrap-up
meetings of the RN and IDN working groups, or are they intended to mark the commencement of Council's consideration of the finished w.g. reports? I had assumed the latter, with the presence of any w.g. members or observers who are able to attend providing useful opportunity for the rapid clarification of any questions that councilors may have.
Great Q Cary, we need clarification. Since the IDN work kicked off after SanPaulo, really, there is a lot of work covered with extensive input from the wg and observers groups, therefore, which ever document is considered from RN (yes 128 pages) or IDN WG, it does not make sense to forge ahead without everyone that provided input. In that I agree with Cary. i.e we cannot use the same scheduling we did in SP. I note that the RN draft report is 125 pages long, and even if the IDN
report is significantly shorter (I have no idea how extensive Ram intends for it actually to be). Council giving these reports the consideration that they deserve can easily fill the weekend slots. If I have misunderstood their purpose, we don't just need to consider rescheduling them, we need to shoehorn additional time into what already appears to be a saturated agenda.
It was my understanding that RAM was to allocated time to discuss the RN draft, as per Chuck note to me and Ram's response in the Council call last. As was rightfully asked by the RN chair for additional input, we seem to need additional time to discuss it. ( I have distributed the report to everyone and no one has but few has come back to me, and those few will not be there on Sunday. Therefore, considering that the IDN work is the first and most critical and complex I might add, I highly recommend that we either reschedule or allot additional day, as Cary suggested kind regards, Sophia On 17/03/07, Cary Karp <ck@nic.museum> wrote:
Quoting Sophia:
I note in particular that the IDN observer discussions are to take place on Sunday Morning.
Are the meetings on Saturday and Sunday morning intended to be wrap-up meetings of the RN and IDN working groups, or are they intended to mark the commencement of Council's consideration of the finished w.g. reports? I had assumed the latter, with the presence of any w.g. members or observers who are able to attend providing useful opportunity for the rapid clarification of any questions that councilors may have.
I note that the RN draft report is 125 pages long, and even if the IDN report is significantly shorter (I have no idea how extensive Ram intends for it actually to be). Council giving these reports the consideration that they deserve can easily fill the weekend slots. If I have misunderstood their purpose, we don't just need to consider rescheduling them, we need to shoehorn additional time into what already appears to be a saturated agenda.
/Cary
Quoting Sophia:
which ever document is considered from RN (yes 128 pages) or IDN WG, it does not make sense to forge ahead without everyone that provided input.
My primary concern is that Council be given adequate time to consider the documents submitted by the working groups. However much utility might derive from a direct dialog between Council and the participants in the working groups, at some point Council will need to thank the w.g.members for their efforts, and then get to its own work of assessing the w.g. recommendations in preparation for providing its advice to the Board. Any curtailment of the attention Council can focus on this devalues the input of the w.g.s, and is thus not an appropriate way to acknowledge the time and energy they have contributed.
I highly recommend that we either reschedule or allot additional day, as Cary suggested
I certainly have no objection to rescheduling but am hard put to see any realistic opportunities for doing so. A number of Councilors participated in the w.g.s and can comment on details that may not be apparent in the reports. All of the w.g. members and observers will be able to participate in the GNSO Public Forum, during which the substantive issues addressed by the w.g.s. will be open for full plenary consideration. /Cary
Hello Cary,
Are the meetings on Saturday and Sunday morning intended to be wrap-up meetings of the RN and IDN working groups, or are they intended to mark the commencement of Council's consideration of the finished w.g. reports?
From the point of view of the new gTLD committee the intent was to allow the committee to get a briefing from the chair and other members of the reserved names and IDN working groups on the outcomes of the work so far.
The sessions on Saturday and Sunday morning are therefore primarily new gTLD committee sessions as I understand it. The working groups will also be able to present their work at the GNSO public forum for public comment. A working group may also want to schedule its own internal meeting, and I believe that the PRO working group is doing that on Sunday. Regards, Bruce Tonkin
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Sophia B