Thanks for your responses. I appreciate that there is sometimes the need for change, and sometimes change can be a good thing. I have a few concerns though. Primarily, I am worried that we will lose many years of Adobe Connect archives, as many meetings are preserved only in the proprietary Adobe Connect format. The transcripts that ICANN produces are not always verbatim, and this only becomes apparent when one replays the Adobe Connect recording. For content like video, this is not preserved anywhere else on the ICANN website to the best of my knowledge, with the exception of a few high interest sessions that make the ICANN YouTube channel. And the Adobe Connect chat box is much easier to read, time stamped and in context, through the Adobe Connect player than it is as a text file. Do we have a way to be able to either 1) convert these Adobe Connect files to be viewable in another player (I think it is not possible, and I have been googling this today), or 2) to maintain a limited 'view only' Adobe Connect platform so that these recordings remain accessible? I also wonder what consultation was undertaken with the community before this decision to migrate to a new tool that we all use was made. I am concerned that many decisions which impact the community are being made in a top-down manner by ICANN org without adequate community consultation. I also wonder about the cost of migration and training. I do not think ICANN org measures the number of volunteer hours that are donated to it every year, but say, conservatively, there are 2,000 volunteers who need to spend 30 minutes downloading and learning Xoom, and perhaps more who need to ask a system administrator to install the program for them because of network settings. Does the cost to the community here exceed the small cost saving that the migration will achieve? Finally, I have had flashbacks to when Adobe Connect was unavailable last year, and I remember some meetings had issues with Xoom. For instance, one call organized by the BC and IPC to do with GDPR compliance had issues because more than 100 participants dialed in, and ICANN's license only allowed for 100 people to be in the room. I hope this issue has been addressed. I also found Xoom's interface to be not as good at allowing for real-time chat, document sharing, and seeing hands raised in a room. Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Thursday, April 4, 2019 6:47 PM, Novoa, Osvaldo <onovoa@Antel.com.uy> wrote:

I share Michele’s opinion. Regards, Osvaldo

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 4 abr. 2019, a la(s) 09:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.commailto:michele@blacknight.com> escribió:

I’ve used it with several other organisations and it’s fine.

Yes, it’s different to Adobe Connect, but that’s not a bad thing. People will need to get used to the UI, but the functionality is fine.

Regards

Michele

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From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.commailto:icann@ferdeline.com> Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.commailto:icann@ferdeline.com> Date: Thursday 4 April 2019 at 11:19 To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Loss of Adobe Connect

Dear all,

ICANN has announcedhttps://www.icann.org/news/blog/transitioning-icann-s-remote-participation-p... that it will be rapidly transitioning away from the Adobe Connect platform to Zoom. I am not sure if there was consultation with other parts of the community, or if there is support for this decision, but I was hoping to hear from other Councillors as to whether or not they thought this decision would have implications on our work. I have used Zoom before and found the platform's interface to not be particularly intuitive, so I am worried. Perhaps someone could put me at ease that this will not be a consequential change. Thanks.

Best wishes,

Ayden

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Dear Ayden, all, We will look into this and get back to you. Thank you! Nathalie On 6/30/19, 1:45 PM, "council on behalf of Ayden Férdeline" <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org on behalf of icann@ferdeline.com> wrote: Hello, Just to follow up on this message, is there an update available on how access to Adobe Connect recordings will be assured well into the future, so ICANN's archives remain complete? Thanks. Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:32, Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com> wrote: > Thanks for your responses. > > I appreciate that there is sometimes the need for change, and sometimes change can be a good thing. > > I have a few concerns though. > > Primarily, I am worried that we will lose many years of Adobe Connect archives, as many meetings are preserved only in the proprietary Adobe Connect format. > > The transcripts that ICANN produces are not always verbatim, and this only becomes apparent when one replays the Adobe Connect recording. For content like video, this is not preserved anywhere else on the ICANN website to the best of my knowledge, with the exception of a few high interest sessions that make the ICANN YouTube channel. And the Adobe Connect chat box is much easier to read, time stamped and in context, through the Adobe Connect player than it is as a text file. > > Do we have a way to be able to either 1) convert these Adobe Connect files to be viewable in another player (I think it is not possible, and I have been googling this today), or 2) to maintain a limited 'view only' Adobe Connect platform so that these recordings remain accessible? > > I also wonder what consultation was undertaken with the community before this decision to migrate to a new tool that we all use was made. I am concerned that many decisions which impact the community are being made in a top-down manner by ICANN org without adequate community consultation. > > I also wonder about the cost of migration and training. I do not think ICANN org measures the number of volunteer hours that are donated to it every year, but say, conservatively, there are 2,000 volunteers who need to spend 30 minutes downloading and learning Xoom, and perhaps more who need to ask a system administrator to install the program for them because of network settings. Does the cost to the community here exceed the small cost saving that the migration will achieve? > > Finally, I have had flashbacks to when Adobe Connect was unavailable last year, and I remember some meetings had issues with Xoom. For instance, one call organized by the BC and IPC to do with GDPR compliance had issues because more than 100 participants dialed in, and ICANN's license only allowed for 100 people to be in the room. I hope this issue has been addressed. I also found Xoom's interface to be not as good at allowing for real-time chat, document sharing, and seeing hands raised in a room. > > Best wishes, > > Ayden Férdeline > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > On Thursday, April 4, 2019 6:47 PM, Novoa, Osvaldo onovoa@Antel.com.uy wrote: > > > I share Michele’s opinion. > > Regards, > > Osvaldo > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > El 4 abr. 2019, a la(s) 09:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.commailto:michele@blacknight.com> escribió: > > I’ve used it with several other organisations and it’s fine. > > Yes, it’s different to Adobe Connect, but that’s not a bad thing. People will need to get used to the UI, but the functionality is fine. > > Regards > > Michele > > > > Mr Michele Neylon > > Blacknight Solutions > > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.blacknight.com_&d=D... > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__blacknight.blog_&d=DwIG... > > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > > Personal blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__michele.blog_&d=DwIGaQ&... > > Some thoughts: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ceo.hosting_&d=DwIGaQ&c... > > > > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty > > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.commailto:icann@ferdeline.com> > > Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.commailto:icann@ferdeline.com> > > Date: Thursday 4 April 2019 at 11:19 > > To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council@gnso.icann.org> > > Subject: [council] Loss of Adobe Connect > > Dear all, > > ICANN has announcedhttps://www.icann.org/news/blog/transitioning-icann-s-remote-participation-p... that it will be rapidly transitioning away from the Adobe Connect platform to Zoom. I am not sure if there was consultation with other parts of the community, or if there is support for this decision, but I was hoping to hear from other Councillors as to whether or not they thought this decision would have implications on our work. I have used Zoom before and found the platform's interface to not be particularly intuitive, so I am worried. Perhaps someone could put me at ease that this will not be a consequential change. Thanks. > > Best wishes, > > Ayden > > council mailing list > > council@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council@gnso.icann.org > > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council > > El presente correo y cualquier posible archivo adjunto está dirigido únicamente al destinatario del mensaje y contiene información que puede ser confidencial. Si Ud. no es el destinatario correcto por favor notifique al remitente respondiendo anexando este mensaje y elimine inmediatamente el e-mail y los posibles archivos adjuntos al mismo de su sistema. 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Dear all, As a reminder, all GNSO PDP Working Group and GNSO Council session Adobe recordings were posted on the GNSO Master Calendar<https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar> and on GNSO wiki spaces<https://community.icann.org/category/gnso> shortly after each call ended. Those urls remain available and accessible on those pages. A request will have to be made for Adobe Connect recordings which aren't published on either the GNSO wiki space or the GNSO Master calendar. I hope this helps, Kind regards, Nathalie On 7/9/19, 8:18 PM, "Terri Agnew" <terri.agnew@icann.org> wrote: Dear Ayden and all, We will retain all our recordings by moving them internally. Requests for specific recordings will need to be made. Please reach out if anything is needed. Kind regards, Terri On 6/30/19, 3:48 PM, "council on behalf of Nathalie Peregrine" <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org on behalf of nathalie.peregrine@icann.org> wrote: Dear Ayden, all, We will look into this and get back to you. Thank you! Nathalie On 6/30/19, 1:45 PM, "council on behalf of Ayden Férdeline" <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org on behalf of icann@ferdeline.com> wrote: Hello, Just to follow up on this message, is there an update available on how access to Adobe Connect recordings will be assured well into the future, so ICANN's archives remain complete? Thanks. Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:32, Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com> wrote: > Thanks for your responses. > > I appreciate that there is sometimes the need for change, and sometimes change can be a good thing. > > I have a few concerns though. > > Primarily, I am worried that we will lose many years of Adobe Connect archives, as many meetings are preserved only in the proprietary Adobe Connect format. > > The transcripts that ICANN produces are not always verbatim, and this only becomes apparent when one replays the Adobe Connect recording. For content like video, this is not preserved anywhere else on the ICANN website to the best of my knowledge, with the exception of a few high interest sessions that make the ICANN YouTube channel. And the Adobe Connect chat box is much easier to read, time stamped and in context, through the Adobe Connect player than it is as a text file. > > Do we have a way to be able to either 1) convert these Adobe Connect files to be viewable in another player (I think it is not possible, and I have been googling this today), or 2) to maintain a limited 'view only' Adobe Connect platform so that these recordings remain accessible? > > I also wonder what consultation was undertaken with the community before this decision to migrate to a new tool that we all use was made. I am concerned that many decisions which impact the community are being made in a top-down manner by ICANN org without adequate community consultation. > > I also wonder about the cost of migration and training. I do not think ICANN org measures the number of volunteer hours that are donated to it every year, but say, conservatively, there are 2,000 volunteers who need to spend 30 minutes downloading and learning Xoom, and perhaps more who need to ask a system administrator to install the program for them because of network settings. Does the cost to the community here exceed the small cost saving that the migration will achieve? > > Finally, I have had flashbacks to when Adobe Connect was unavailable last year, and I remember some meetings had issues with Xoom. For instance, one call organized by the BC and IPC to do with GDPR compliance had issues because more than 100 participants dialed in, and ICANN's license only allowed for 100 people to be in the room. I hope this issue has been addressed. I also found Xoom's interface to be not as good at allowing for real-time chat, document sharing, and seeing hands raised in a room. > > Best wishes, > > Ayden Férdeline > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > On Thursday, April 4, 2019 6:47 PM, Novoa, Osvaldo onovoa@Antel.com.uy wrote: > > > I share Michele’s opinion. > > Regards, > > Osvaldo > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > El 4 abr. 2019, a la(s) 09:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.commailto:michele@blacknight.com> escribió: > > I’ve used it with several other organisations and it’s fine. > > Yes, it’s different to Adobe Connect, but that’s not a bad thing. People will need to get used to the UI, but the functionality is fine. > > Regards > > Michele > > > > Mr Michele Neylon > > Blacknight Solutions > > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.blacknight.com_&d=D... > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__blacknight.blog_&d=DwIG... > > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > > Personal blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__michele.blog_&d=DwIGaQ&... > > Some thoughts: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ceo.hosting_&d=DwIGaQ&c... > > > > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty > > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.commailto:icann@ferdeline.com> > > Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.commailto:icann@ferdeline.com> > > Date: Thursday 4 April 2019 at 11:19 > > To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council@gnso.icann.org> > > Subject: [council] Loss of Adobe Connect > > Dear all, > > ICANN has announcedhttps://www.icann.org/news/blog/transitioning-icann-s-remote-participation-p... that it will be rapidly transitioning away from the Adobe Connect platform to Zoom. I am not sure if there was consultation with other parts of the community, or if there is support for this decision, but I was hoping to hear from other Councillors as to whether or not they thought this decision would have implications on our work. I have used Zoom before and found the platform's interface to not be particularly intuitive, so I am worried. Perhaps someone could put me at ease that this will not be a consequential change. Thanks. > > Best wishes, > > Ayden > > council mailing list > > council@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council@gnso.icann.org > > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council > > El presente correo y cualquier posible archivo adjunto está dirigido únicamente al destinatario del mensaje y contiene información que puede ser confidencial. Si Ud. no es el destinatario correcto por favor notifique al remitente respondiendo anexando este mensaje y elimine inmediatamente el e-mail y los posibles archivos adjuntos al mismo de su sistema. 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Ayden I think there are a few things here that may or may not warrant discussion. First off I know that ICANN are working on a new website as well as putting in place some form of document management system. I'm not sure which recordings you're having issues finding, but I'd be very surprised if they weren't available *somewhere*. ICANN ORG and its staff needs to be functional. Having to consult with the "community" on every single operational decision that they make is completely impractical and would be a gross disservice to all parties involved. Serious issues with Adobe Connect were identified and ICANN chose to move to another vendor. Yes, there have been some issues involving that vendor that came to light in the last few days, but if you can find a software solution out there that hasn't had issues then I'd be very surprised. Also ICANN ORG does not exist to "serve" the community - that kind of servile relationship is not how things should work in 2019. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 On 09/07/2019, 21:43, "council on behalf of Ayden Férdeline" <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org on behalf of icann@ferdeline.com> wrote: Thank you for this update, Terri. I do not consider this a great resolution. For one, it will be burdensome for ICANN staff to have to retrieve these recordings manually. In addition, for community members, we are now dependent upon ICANN org being prepared to release recordings. I note that there are recordings from the Abu Dhabi meeting that disappeared and which have not been made available despite repeated community requests. It appears to me that ICANN has transitioned to Zoom without considering the implications of records being lost in the process. This is deeply disappointing. It is even more disappointing given the news in the past few days about the structural vulnerabilities found within Zoom. We switched to this tool under the guise of enhancing information security, but as security researchers have noted, Zoom has been unresponsive to their findings that it is rather effortlessly possible to remotely activate webcams. This was a flaw never found within Adobe Connect, which in my opinion met our needs better. None of this is the fault of the policy team, but it does reflect very poorly in my view on whatever team within ICANN made this move to a new platform without considering the impact on the community. It was beyond disrespectful to do so without consulting us. It is my deeply held - albeit unpopular - view that ICANN org does not respect the community it is supposed to serve, and this transition to an inferior tool has only served to cement that image in my mind. Ayden Férdeline ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:18, Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org> wrote: > Dear Ayden and all, > > We will retain all our recordings by moving them internally. Requests for specific recordings will need to be made. > > Please reach out if anything is needed. > > Kind regards, > > Terri > > On 6/30/19, 3:48 PM, "council on behalf of Nathalie Peregrine" <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org on behalf of nathalie.peregrine@icann.org> wrote: > > Dear Ayden, all, > > We will look into this and get back to you. > > Thank you! > > Nathalie > > On 6/30/19, 1:45 PM, "council on behalf of Ayden Férdeline" <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org on behalf of icann@ferdeline.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > Just to follow up on this message, is there an update available on how access to Adobe Connect recordings will be assured well into the future, so ICANN's archives remain complete? Thanks. > > Best wishes, > > Ayden Férdeline > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > On Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:32, Ayden Férdeline icann@ferdeline.com wrote: > > > Thanks for your responses. > > > > > > I appreciate that there is sometimes the need for change, and sometimes change can be a good thing. > > > > > > I have a few concerns though. > > > > > > Primarily, I am worried that we will lose many years of Adobe Connect archives, as many meetings are preserved only in the proprietary Adobe Connect format. > > > > > > The transcripts that ICANN produces are not always verbatim, and this only becomes apparent when one replays the Adobe Connect recording. For content like video, this is not preserved anywhere else on the ICANN website to the best of my knowledge, with the exception of a few high interest sessions that make the ICANN YouTube channel. And the Adobe Connect chat box is much easier to read, time stamped and in context, through the Adobe Connect player than it is as a text file. > > > > > > Do we have a way to be able to either 1) convert these Adobe Connect files to be viewable in another player (I think it is not possible, and I have been googling this today), or 2) to maintain a limited 'view only' Adobe Connect platform so that these recordings remain accessible? > > > > > > I also wonder what consultation was undertaken with the community before this decision to migrate to a new tool that we all use was made. I am concerned that many decisions which impact the community are being made in a top-down manner by ICANN org without adequate community consultation. > > > > > > I also wonder about the cost of migration and training. I do not think ICANN org measures the number of volunteer hours that are donated to it every year, but say, conservatively, there are 2,000 volunteers who need to spend 30 minutes downloading and learning Xoom, and perhaps more who need to ask a system administrator to install the program for them because of network settings. Does the cost to the community here exceed the small cost saving that the migration will achieve? > > > > > > Finally, I have had flashbacks to when Adobe Connect was unavailable last year, and I remember some meetings had issues with Xoom. For instance, one call organized by the BC and IPC to do with GDPR compliance had issues because more than 100 participants dialed in, and ICANN's license only allowed for 100 people to be in the room. I hope this issue has been addressed. I also found Xoom's interface to be not as good at allowing for real-time chat, document sharing, and seeing hands raised in a room. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Ayden Férdeline > > > > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > > On Thursday, April 4, 2019 6:47 PM, Novoa, Osvaldo onovoa@Antel.com.uy wrote: > > > > > > > I share Michele’s opinion. > > > > Regards, > > > > Osvaldo > > > > Enviado desde mi iPhone > > > > El 4 abr. 2019, a la(s) 09:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.commailto:michele@blacknight.com> escribió: > > > > I’ve used it with several other organisations and it’s fine. > > > > Yes, it’s different to Adobe Connect, but that’s not a bad thing. People will need to get used to the UI, but the functionality is fine. > > > > Regards > > > > Michele > > > > > > > > Mr Michele Neylon > > > > Blacknight Solutions > > > > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.blacknight.com_&d=D... > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__blacknight.blog_&d=DwIG... > > > > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > > > > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > > > > Personal blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__michele.blog_&d=DwIGaQ&... > > > > Some thoughts: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ceo.hosting_&d=DwIGaQ&c... > > > > > > > > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty > > > > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > > > From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.commailto:icann@ferdeline.com> > > > > Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.commailto:icann@ferdeline.com> > > > > Date: Thursday 4 April 2019 at 11:19 > > > > To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council@gnso.icann.org> > > > > Subject: [council] Loss of Adobe Connect > > > > Dear all, > > > > ICANN has announcedhttps://www.icann.org/news/blog/transitioning-icann-s-remote-participation-p... that it will be rapidly transitioning away from the Adobe Connect platform to Zoom. I am not sure if there was consultation with other parts of the community, or if there is support for this decision, but I was hoping to hear from other Councillors as to whether or not they thought this decision would have implications on our work. I have used Zoom before and found the platform's interface to not be particularly intuitive, so I am worried. Perhaps someone could put me at ease that this will not be a consequential change. Thanks. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Ayden > > > > council mailing list > > > > council@gnso.icann.orgmailto:council@gnso.icann.org > > > > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council > > > > El presente correo y cualquier posible archivo adjunto está dirigido únicamente al destinatario del mensaje y contiene información que puede ser confidencial. Si Ud. no es el destinatario correcto por favor notifique al remitente respondiendo anexando este mensaje y elimine inmediatamente el e-mail y los posibles archivos adjuntos al mismo de su sistema. 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