RE: [council] Draft Agenda for Council meeting Thursday 18 Nov 2004
Marc- I agree ...no final decision should be made on this issue. The IPC's primary concern is that the ICANN Staff and President will be making a recommendation regarding WIPO II and that the Board could make a decision based upon that recommendation prior to our knowing/discussing the recommendation. Certainly, we need to have some idea of where the Staff/President are generally coming out on this and more specifically the nature of their recommendation --- particularly since no consensus has been reached on this issue. Regards, Lucy -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]On Behalf Of ext Marc Schneiders Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:10 AM To: Marilyn Cade Cc: 'Bruce Tonkin'; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Draft Agenda for Council meeting Thursday 18 Nov 2004 This is a pretty serious topic, I agree, as another elected rep. I do not mind at all that we discuss this tomorrow. I would oppose though any attempt to rush anything through tomorrow. Be it dismissing the whole WIPO II request (which my constituency wouldn't mind as such) or taking some position. We need serious discussion about this topic, which cannot be accomplished in one teleconference as such short notice. I suggest we discuss WIPO II on this list before we make _any_ decision. Thanks. Marc Schneiders On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, at 19:52 [=GMT-0500], Marilyn Cade wrote:
Dear Bruce, As an elected rep to the BC on Council, I support the request for information and offer the following thought:
The working group on WIPO II did not achieve consensus. Changes in policy by ICANN require consensus In the BC, we have received inquiries from our members, regarding the action of the ICANN regarding this issue.
I want to support raisign this issue in Council to a priority level, and noting to the Board and staff that there is no support to make changes, given that there is no consensus in the working group.
I welcome the opportunity to discuss this within Council and will be on Thursday's call. I have to leave at 3:30 EST, so ask that this issue be raised between 2 and 3:00 p.m. so that I can help to address it.
Best regards,
Marilyn
All, Maybe I can be of help. WIPO staff has promised us a commentary on the work of the WIPO-II committee. We have been awaiting this in order to be able to address a recommendation to the Board on how to move forward. We have just received this 2 days ago, but neither John Jeffrey nor I have had time to read it and consider the next step (you will understand that a number of issues required our involvement over the last days). I hope John and I have time to read it and have a first discussion on it in the next days. There is little more that I can offer at the moment, so if you bear with us please, we should be able to inform you soon. Sorry for not being able to be more concrete at this point. Best regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Lucy.Nichols@nokia.com Sent: 18 November 2004 13:45 To: marc@schneiders.org; marilynscade@hotmail.com Cc: Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Draft Agenda for Council meeting Thursday 18 Nov 2004 Marc- I agree ...no final decision should be made on this issue. The IPC's primary concern is that the ICANN Staff and President will be making a recommendation regarding WIPO II and that the Board could make a decision based upon that recommendation prior to our knowing/discussing the recommendation. Certainly, we need to have some idea of where the Staff/President are generally coming out on this and more specifically the nature of their recommendation --- particularly since no consensus has been reached on this issue. Regards, Lucy -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]On Behalf Of ext Marc Schneiders Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:10 AM To: Marilyn Cade Cc: 'Bruce Tonkin'; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Draft Agenda for Council meeting Thursday 18 Nov 2004 This is a pretty serious topic, I agree, as another elected rep. I do not mind at all that we discuss this tomorrow. I would oppose though any attempt to rush anything through tomorrow. Be it dismissing the whole WIPO II request (which my constituency wouldn't mind as such) or taking some position. We need serious discussion about this topic, which cannot be accomplished in one teleconference as such short notice. I suggest we discuss WIPO II on this list before we make _any_ decision. Thanks. Marc Schneiders On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, at 19:52 [=GMT-0500], Marilyn Cade wrote:
Dear Bruce, As an elected rep to the BC on Council, I support the request for information and offer the following thought:
The working group on WIPO II did not achieve consensus. Changes in policy by ICANN require consensus In the BC, we have received inquiries from our members, regarding the action of the ICANN regarding this issue.
I want to support raisign this issue in Council to a priority level, and noting to the Board and staff that there is no support to make changes, given that there is no consensus in the working group.
I welcome the opportunity to discuss this within Council and will be on Thursday's call. I have to leave at 3:30 EST, so ask that this issue be raised between 2 and 3:00 p.m. so that I can help to address it.
Best regards,
Marilyn
Lucy, I am not sure it is a good idea to let the Board make a decision without involving the GNSO... That is certainly not what I had in mind. Regards, Marc On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, at 14:44 [=GMT+0200], Lucy.Nichols@nokia.com wrote:
Marc-
I agree ...no final decision should be made on this issue.
The IPC's primary concern is that the ICANN Staff and President will be making a recommendation regarding WIPO II and that the Board could make a decision based upon that recommendation prior to our knowing/discussing the recommendation. Certainly, we need to have some idea of where the Staff/President are generally coming out on this and more specifically the nature of their recommendation --- particularly since no consensus has been reached on this issue.
Regards,
Lucy
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]On Behalf Of ext Marc Schneiders Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:10 AM To: Marilyn Cade Cc: 'Bruce Tonkin'; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Draft Agenda for Council meeting Thursday 18 Nov 2004
This is a pretty serious topic, I agree, as another elected rep. I do not mind at all that we discuss this tomorrow. I would oppose though any attempt to rush anything through tomorrow. Be it dismissing the whole WIPO II request (which my constituency wouldn't mind as such) or taking some position. We need serious discussion about this topic, which cannot be accomplished in one teleconference as such short notice. I suggest we discuss WIPO II on this list before we make _any_ decision. Thanks.
Marc Schneiders
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, at 19:52 [=GMT-0500], Marilyn Cade wrote:
Dear Bruce, As an elected rep to the BC on Council, I support the request for information and offer the following thought:
The working group on WIPO II did not achieve consensus. Changes in policy by ICANN require consensus In the BC, we have received inquiries from our members, regarding the action of the ICANN regarding this issue.
I want to support raisign this issue in Council to a priority level, and noting to the Board and staff that there is no support to make changes, given that there is no consensus in the working group.
I welcome the opportunity to discuss this within Council and will be on Thursday's call. I have to leave at 3:30 EST, so ask that this issue be raised between 2 and 3:00 p.m. so that I can help to address it.
Best regards,
Marilyn
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