Agenda for Council meeting
Colleagues, Without the AC room, we'll be relying on the agenda and links as posted in the ICANN61 meeting schedule, here: https://61.schedule.icann.org/meetings/647702 Many thanks and best wishes, Heather
I have made a specific request to add a written comment from my side on Agenda item #5 Thanks Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez ISOC Costa Rica Chapter skype carlos.raulg +506 8837 7176 ________ Apartado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> wrote:
Colleagues,
Without the AC room, we'll be relying on the agenda and links as posted in the ICANN61 meeting schedule, here: https://61.schedule. icann.org/meetings/647702
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather
_______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council
I want to make a specific mention to the Agenda item #5 If the resolution will ask for more financial details on the overall IG engagement costing, I request to make it add "across" the traditional budget structure for the purposes of this question, and add - time/costs, meetings and travel that can be assigned to Executives & Board members engaged in IG issues, including but not limited ITU, other governmental multi-laterals, ISOC, GSMA and other private sector orgs, IETF and other quangos, similar activities - time/costs and staff involved in Government Engagement - time/costs and staff involved in direct support to GAC - time/costs and staff involved in meetings and calls that support the previously called CWG on IG My assumption is that the last line, which seems to be the most important issue during the council's discussion, will be well small compared to the other ones. Are we focusing on the right issues here? Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez ISOC Costa Rica Chapter skype carlos.raulg +506 8837 7176 ________ Apartado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> wrote:
Colleagues,
Without the AC room, we'll be relying on the agenda and links as posted in the ICANN61 meeting schedule, here: https://61.schedule. icann.org/meetings/647702
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather
_______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council
I support these questions being asked. I hope we may also be able to seek clarification as to how much it costs for the CCWG-IG's annual report to be generated. From what I understand it is compiled by an external consultant. I would also like to understand the costs associated with subscribing to various regulatory intelligence services; occasionally I have seen reports downloaded from Cullen International shared on the CCWG-IG list, but there may be other services that are utilized. Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 14 March 2018 6:31 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg@isoc-cr.org> wrote:
I want to make a specific mention to the Agenda item #5
If the resolution will ask for more financial details on the overall IG engagement costing, I request to make it add "across" the traditional budget structure for the purposes of this question, and add
- time/costs, meetings and travel that can be assigned to Executives & Board members engaged in IG issues, including but not limited ITU, other governmental multi-laterals, ISOC, GSMA and other private sector orgs, IETF and other quangos, similar activities - time/costs and staff involved in Government Engagement - time/costs and staff involved in direct support to GAC - time/costs and staff involved in meetings and calls that support the previously called CWG on IG
My assumption is that the last line, which seems to be the most important issue during the council's discussion, will be well small compared to the other ones. Are we focusing on the right issues here?
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez ISOC Costa Rica Chapter skype carlos.raulg +506 8837 7176 ________ Apartado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> wrote:
Colleagues,
Without the AC room, we'll be relying on the agenda and links as posted in the ICANN61 meeting schedule, here: https://61.schedule.icann.org/meetings/647702
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather
_______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council
Hi, thanks, Carlos, Ayden for those questions, I assume those are not addressed directly to the CWG-IG as several are not under its remit, except those related to calls and partly the annual report that supporting staff from Government Engagement Team can respond. Best, Rafik 2018-03-14 14:44 GMT-04:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com>:
I support these questions being asked. I hope we may also be able to seek clarification as to how much it costs for the CCWG-IG's annual report to be generated. From what I understand it is compiled by an external consultant. I would also like to understand the costs associated with subscribing to various regulatory intelligence services; occasionally I have seen reports downloaded from Cullen International shared on the CCWG-IG list, but there may be other services that are utilized.
Best wishes,
Ayden Férdeline
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 14 March 2018 6:31 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg@isoc-cr.org> wrote:
I want to make a specific mention to the Agenda item #5
If the resolution will ask for more financial details on the overall IG engagement costing, I request to make it add "across" the traditional budget structure for the purposes of this question, and add
- time/costs, meetings and travel that can be assigned to Executives & Board members engaged in IG issues, including but not limited ITU, other governmental multi-laterals, ISOC, GSMA and other private sector orgs, IETF and other quangos, similar activities - time/costs and staff involved in Government Engagement - time/costs and staff involved in direct support to GAC - time/costs and staff involved in meetings and calls that support the previously called CWG on IG
My assumption is that the last line, which seems to be the most important issue during the council's discussion, will be well small compared to the other ones. Are we focusing on the right issues here?
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez ISOC Costa Rica Chapter skype carlos.raulg +506 8837 7176 <+506%208837%207176> ________ Apartado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> wrote:
Colleagues,
Without the AC room, we'll be relying on the agenda and links as posted in the ICANN61 meeting schedule, here: https://61.schedule.ican n.org/meetings/647702
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather
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All, please find hereunder a response to the questions that the Council put forward in relation to overall IG engagement costings. Best regards, Marika Marika, Mandy, Nigel, Rob and I participated to producing the answers below. Not sure if the answers should be sent by you to the council or by any one of us. Please let us know your thoughts. The Staff and resources involved in Government Engagement are best described in the FY19 Budget documents as referenced below: * Document 4 – Module 1 – Engagement activities. This includes more than Government engagement activities. * Document 6 - FY19 Excel Spreadsheet by Portfolio and by Projects. Please note that this document contains the numbers of staff full-time equivalent, indicated at the project level. Both documents can be found at https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/current-en. The total spend for Government and IGO engagement is $3.2 and is broken down as follows: Totals for the portfolios are in USD and are rounded to the nearest millions with thousands as a decimal 1. Portfolio 4.1.1 Coordination of ICANN participation in Internet governance $1.1 * Project 178604 Recurring Activity: ICANN Internet Governance Engagement 2. Portfolio 4.2.1 Working with Governments and Intergovernmental organizations $0.6 * Project 154157 High Level Government meeting * Project 178602 FY19 GE Government Advisory Committee (GAC) Engagement and support 1. Portfolio 4.3.1 Support Internet Governance Ecosystem Advancement $1.5 * Project 175418 Recurring Activity – Government and IGO Engagement Similarly, the amount of resources dedicated to the GAC support can be found in the Document 6 of the FY19 budget, under project 151210, which reflects 3.4 FTEs and $0.5m in support. See general description below: The support team focuses on assisting GAC members and leadership on all operational matters surrounding the GAC’s work: preparation for all meetings (agenda development, scheduling, calendaring), conducting (managing the remote connectivity capabilities), and follow-up (minutes, action items/next steps, reporting, etc.) for all plenary, working group and committee leadership meetings, development and maintenance of the GAC web resources and the posting and maintenance of related content for all committee activities, working groups and informational resources, management membership records, tracks attendance for committee activities, conducts election processes and supports GAC members in fulfillment of the various SO-AC responsibilities the committee has regarding organizational reviews and the empowered community administration. For the time/costs and staff involved in meetings and calls that support the previously called CWG on IG are included in the totals provided about government engagement above. For some additional detail: 1. Staff support comes from the Government and IGO Engagement team. This work occupies about 0.1 of the time of Desiree Cabrera (in LA) and perhaps 0.1 to 0.15 of Nigel Hickson’s time in Geneva; this is for the WG calls, held perhaps every 2 months or so, support on discussing issues and dialogue at ICANN and other meetings; 2. The only other support provided to the CCW on IG has been (and could be looking ahead) very small consultancy expenditure for report writing. This has not exceeded $2k in any year. Travel expenditures by the Board and the executives are not currently tracked and reported according to the subject of the meeting, differently than by the projects. Thank you. Best, Xavier Xavier Calvez ICANN – SVP & CFO 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: 310-301-5838 Mobile: 805-312-0052 Fax: 310-957-2348 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 11:47 To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com> Cc: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Agenda for Council meeting Hi, thanks, Carlos, Ayden for those questions, I assume those are not addressed directly to the CWG-IG as several are not under its remit, except those related to calls and partly the annual report that supporting staff from Government Engagement Team can respond. Best, Rafik 2018-03-14 14:44 GMT-04:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com<mailto:icann@ferdeline.com>>: I support these questions being asked. I hope we may also be able to seek clarification as to how much it costs for the CCWG-IG's annual report to be generated. From what I understand it is compiled by an external consultant. I would also like to understand the costs associated with subscribing to various regulatory intelligence services; occasionally I have seen reports downloaded from Cullen International shared on the CCWG-IG list, but there may be other services that are utilized. Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 14 March 2018 6:31 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg@isoc-cr.org<mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org>> wrote: I want to make a specific mention to the Agenda item #5 If the resolution will ask for more financial details on the overall IG engagement costing, I request to make it add "across" the traditional budget structure for the purposes of this question, and add · time/costs, meetings and travel that can be assigned to Executives & Board members engaged in IG issues, including but not limited ITU, other governmental multi-laterals, ISOC, GSMA and other private sector orgs, IETF and other quangos, similar activities · time/costs and staff involved in Government Engagement · time/costs and staff involved in direct support to GAC · time/costs and staff involved in meetings and calls that support the previously called CWG on IG My assumption is that the last line, which seems to be the most important issue during the council's discussion, will be well small compared to the other ones. Are we focusing on the right issues here? Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez ISOC Costa Rica Chapter skype carlos.raulg +506 8837 7176<tel:+506%208837%207176> ________ Apartado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com<mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com>> wrote: Colleagues, Without the AC room, we'll be relying on the agenda and links as posted in the ICANN61 meeting schedule, here: [chrome-extension://cfeleongjhdjephegmmmdjgbfjiindbe/images/webicon_green.png] https://61.schedule.icann.org/meetings/647702[61.schedule.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__61.schedule.icann.org_meetings_647702&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=y_QXW3zgWo0efzDgdHEORHN3VJ1p08Sjt-948pRZgho&s=TNRnoMD4kAubft8bPJkPNTstyw3Nkd0SchJc2ktjxuk&e=> Many thanks and best wishes, Heather _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> [chrome-extension://cfeleongjhdjephegmmmdjgbfjiindbe/images/webicon_green.png]https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council
It is useful to have this information. On the whole, it does not seem it is all that expensive to run this working group. It is using minimal staff resources, has a budget of $2,000 for consultants, and that appears to be it. Given the larger Internet ecosystem does present risks to ICANN’s mission and activities, it seems logical to me to have this outlet with which the community can engage with the Board Working Group on Internet Governance and liaise with other SO/ACs about ongoing Internet governance issues. —Ayden ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 2 June 2018 12:41 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> wrote:
All, please find hereunder a response to the questions that the Council put forward in relation to overall IG engagement costings.
Best regards,
Marika
Marika,
Mandy, Nigel, Rob and I participated to producing the answers below. Not sure if the answers should be sent by you to the council or by any one of us. Please let us know your thoughts.
The Staff and resources involved in Government Engagement are best described in the FY19 Budget documents as referenced below:
- Document 4 – Module 1 – Engagement activities. This includes more than Government engagement activities. - Document 6 - FY19 Excel Spreadsheet by Portfolio and by Projects. Please note that this document contains the numbers of staff full-time equivalent, indicated at the project level.
Both documents can be found at https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/current-en. The total spend for Government and IGO engagement is $3.2 and is broken down as follows:
Totals for the portfolios are in USD and are rounded to the nearest millions with thousands as a decimal
- Portfolio 4.1.1 Coordination of ICANN participation in Internet governance $1.1
- Project 178604 Recurring Activity: ICANN Internet Governance Engagement
- Portfolio 4.2.1 Working with Governments and Intergovernmental organizations $0.6
- Project 154157 High Level Government meeting - Project 178602 FY19 GE Government Advisory Committee (GAC) Engagement and support - Portfolio 4.3.1 Support Internet Governance Ecosystem Advancement $1.5
- Project 175418 Recurring Activity – Government and IGO Engagement
Similarly, the amount of resources dedicated to the GAC support can be found in the Document 6 of the FY19 budget, under project 151210, which reflects 3.4 FTEs and $0.5m in support. See general description below:
The support team focuses on assisting GAC members and leadership on all operational matters surrounding the GAC’s work: preparation for all meetings (agenda development, scheduling, calendaring), conducting (managing the remote connectivity capabilities), and follow-up (minutes, action items/next steps, reporting, etc.) for all plenary, working group and committee leadership meetings, development and maintenance of the GAC web resources and the posting and maintenance of related content for all committee activities, working groups and informational resources, management membership records, tracks attendance for committee activities, conducts election processes and supports GAC members in fulfillment of the various SO-AC responsibilities the committee has regarding organizational reviews and the empowered community administration.
For the time/costs and staff involved in meetings and calls that support the previously called CWG on IG are included in the totals provided about government engagement above. For some additional detail:
- Staff support comes from the Government and IGO Engagement team. This work occupies about 0.1 of the time of Desiree Cabrera (in LA) and perhaps 0.1 to 0.15 of Nigel Hickson’s time in Geneva; this is for the WG calls, held perhaps every 2 months or so, support on discussing issues and dialogue at ICANN and other meetings; - The only other support provided to the CCW on IG has been (and could be looking ahead) very small consultancy expenditure for report writing. This has not exceeded $2k in any year.
Travel expenditures by the Board and the executives are not currently tracked and reported according to the subject of the meeting, differently than by the projects.
Thank you.
Best,
Xavier
Xavier Calvez
ICANN – SVP & CFO
12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
Los Angeles, CA 90094
Phone: 310-301-5838
Mobile: 805-312-0052
Fax: 310-957-2348
From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 11:47 To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com> Cc: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Agenda for Council meeting
Hi,
thanks, Carlos, Ayden for those questions,
I assume those are not addressed directly to the CWG-IG as several are not under its remit, except those related to calls and partly the annual report that supporting staff from Government Engagement Team can respond.
Best,
Rafik
2018-03-14 14:44 GMT-04:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com>:
I support these questions being asked. I hope we may also be able to seek clarification as to how much it costs for the CCWG-IG's annual report to be generated. From what I understand it is compiled by an external consultant. I would also like to understand the costs associated with subscribing to various regulatory intelligence services; occasionally I have seen reports downloaded from Cullen International shared on the CCWG-IG list, but there may be other services that are utilized.
Best wishes,
Ayden Férdeline
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On 14 March 2018 6:31 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg@isoc-cr.org> wrote:
I want to make a specific mention to the Agenda item #5
If the resolution will ask for more financial details on the overall IG engagement costing, I request to make it add "across" the traditional budget structure for the purposes of this question, and add
· time/costs, meetings and travel that can be assigned to Executives & Board members engaged in IG issues, including but not limited ITU, other governmental multi-laterals, ISOC, GSMA and other private sector orgs, IETF and other quangos, similar activities
· time/costs and staff involved in Government Engagement
· time/costs and staff involved in direct support to GAC
· time/costs and staff involved in meetings and calls that support the previously called CWG on IG
My assumption is that the last line, which seems to be the most important issue during the council's discussion, will be well small compared to the other ones. Are we focusing on the right issues here?
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
ISOC Costa Rica Chapter
skype carlos.raulg
[+506 8837 7176](tel:+506%208837%207176)
________
Apartado 1571-1000
COSTA RICA
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> wrote:
Colleagues,
Without the AC room, we'll be relying on the agenda and links as posted in the ICANN61 meeting schedule, here: [chrome-extension://cfeleongjhdjephegmmmdjgbfjiindbe/images/webicon_green.png][https://61.schedule.icann.org/meetings/647702[61.schedule.icann.org]](https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__61.schedule.icann.org_meetings_647702&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=y_QXW3zgWo0efzDgdHEORHN3VJ1p08Sjt-948pRZgho&s=TNRnoMD4kAubft8bPJkPNTstyw3Nkd0SchJc2ktjxuk&e=)
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather
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Rafik Dammak