New subject: Proposed GNSO Council talking points - Joint meeting with GAC

June 10, 2024

      Hi Terri - this was sent from the ntfy address but I did have a comment in
relation to this agenda.  So I am copying Council.

Comment is for Paul in relation to the Small Team Plus work - looks good in
relation to the "intended registrant" approach that is under discussion for
singulars and plurals but I'm confused about the note that says the team is
comfortable with having the community determine what is singular and what
is plural.  As I understand the staff proposal, any community member can
notify ICANN that it believes there is a string confusion singular or
plural that has been applied for but then it would be up to ICANN staff to
verify that designation via the dictionary approach (or other verifiable
resource.)  The notes make it sound as though there is no verification at
the ICANN level.  Also think it would be helpful here to emphasize that the
later applicant would be required to adopt an RVC since the GAC is very
familiar with that PIC process from the prior round and has provided advice
to the Board to be sure RVCs are available.

On a plane to Doha with spotty internet.  Hope you are all having a great
meeting!  (I arrive Tuesday morning.)
Anne

Anne Aikman-Scalese
GNSO Councilor

NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024
anneicanngnso@gmail.com

On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 9:41 PM Terri Agnew via Ntfy-gnso-council <
ntfy-gnso-council@icann.org> wrote:
...
Dear Councilors,
Below, please find the proposed GNSO Council talking points and proposed
speakers for the GNSO Council meeting with the GAC at ICANN80.
*Joint session: GAC and GNSO Council 09:00 - 10:15 CAT (75 mins)*
*Schedule webpage:*
*https://icann80.sched.com/event/1dr3d/joint-meeting-gac-and-gnso*
[icann80.sched.com]
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann80.sched.com/event/1dr3d/joint-meeti...>
Agenda:
1. High Level Government Meeting (HLGM) June 9th: brief recap update
   from GAC
- GAC Leadership to update the GNSO Council on the main take-aways
   from the High Level Government Meeting (HLGM).
2. Statements of Interest (SOI)-Current state/update from GNSO
GAC Talking Points
·         The GAC is very appreciative of the GNSO letter on SOI which
clearly articulates the current position of the different GNSO
constituencies and the status of the GNSO. The GAC is of the view that
highest standards of transparency are cornerstones for the accountability
and legitimacy of ICANN policy processes, and would like to explore how to
move forward on this dossier so that all participants in ICANN can, as
appropriate, give their affiliation or that (as required) of their
clients.  The GAC looks forward to the Board taking action on this matter
in consultation with the whole community.
·         What is the GNSO Council’s take on such Board plans?
·         Would the GNSO Council welcome a request from the Board to
introduce requirements on transparency consistent with the ICANN Bylaws?
GNSO Designated Speaker: Greg
Talking Points:
·         The GNSO Council does not have a unified position on this topic
but appreciates the opportunity to take questions.
·         Given the divergent views amongst the SG/Cs, as well as the
fact that SOIs are used more broadly than just in respect of GNSO WGs, the
Council would welcome leadership from the Board on this topic.
3. New gTLDs-Applicant Support Program (ASP)-Implementation Review
   Team (IRT)-Resolution of contention sets; -Singular/plural small team plus
   work-PICs/RVCs
GAC Talking Points:
a.   *GNSO Council update on singular/plural issue*
The GAC is aware of the recent progress in the pending SubPro
recommendation 24.3, wherein the ICANN organization has formulated a
preliminary approach (i.e., straw person text) to solicit additional input
for the GNSO's deliberation. The GAC is keen to learn the GNSO’s
perspective on the straw person proposal and the projected timeline for
developing an approach addressing the singular/plural matter.
Furthermore, the GAC wishes to reiterate ICANN's objective of mitigating
string confusion. In light of this, the GAC seeks the GNSO's stance on the
following inquiries: Should ICANN disregard the potential for string
confusion resulting from the singular/plural issue in the absence of
objection or request? If so, what are the subsequent mitigation procedures
when a request is made long after both the singular and plural strings have
been adopted? If not, what measures will the GNSO implement to identify and
prevent the potential occurrence of the singular/plural issue?
GNSO Designated Speaker: Paul
Talking Points:
·         The Council’s small team is still actively discussing the
topic, but does believe that the straw person proposal has some promise.
While it does not match the level of depth of the original SubPro
recommendations, it does capture much of the intent.
·         The small team is still considering other elements that could
be appended to the straw person, such as a review mechanism that could
allow community identified singular/plural strings to both proceed if their
intended registrants (e.g., registration policies) will allow both
registries to operate without introducing undue registrant or end-user
confusion.
·         Looking at intended registrants allows for a level of nuance
and context that is otherwise unavailable in the strawperson.
·         Note, intended registrants should be considered distinctly
separate from intended use, which implies domain name content.
·         The small team will seek to complete its Supplemental
Recommendation(s) shortly after ICANN80.
·         In respect of the community being responsible for identifying
singular/plurals in the same language, the small team seems to be
comfortable with this prospect, even if the preference would be for ICANN
to be responsible for this process.
·         The small team recognizes that the costs of this review process
may be prohibitively expensive if ICANN is solely responsible, and all
costs are passed on to applicants.
·         Therefore, while the strawperson is not perfect, the small team
is currently comfortable with the prospect of the community identifying
singulars and plurals in the same language, which includes the prospect of
some pairs not being identified.
b.    *Implementation Review Team (IRT) update*
The GAC is keen to continue engaging actively in the IRT, through its
Appointed Representative, Alternate, and participants.
i.                 Will the proposed $92,000 RSP fee affect new entrants
ability to participate in the next application round for new gTLDs, and if
so, in what ways?
GNSO Designated Speaker: Susan
Talking Points:
·         The Council does not actively manage the implementation of its
policies recommendations and is generally only involved when a disagreement
arises, via the liaisons it assigns to IRTs.
·         At this stage, the Council has not been alerted of any
misalignment between implementation and intent of recommendations and as a
result, there is currently no Council position on this topic.
·         The Council does understand that there have been objections and
concerns to the fee and will be monitoring the situation carefully, via its
liaisons to the IRT.
c.   *Resolution of contention sets*
The GAC is keen on hearing from the Board’s reaction to the GAC’s
Washington Consensus Advice on resolution of contention sets. While we
receive the Board’s reaction we would be interested in hearing the GNSO
Council’s views on alternative systems to resolve contention sets
(different to auctions) between commercial and non-commercial applications.
And we would also be interested in your views on the possibility of
effectively ruling out the use of “private auctions”. Does the GNSO Council
see an appropriate way forward regarding both aspects?
GNSO Designated Speaker: Paul
Talking Points:
·         The members in the SubPro PDP had diverging views on whether
private auctions should be allowed or not, which resulted in certain
recommendations not achieving consensus.
·         Those particular recommendations were not adopted by the
Council and subsequently, were not passed on for Board consideration.
·         The Council has not discussed the topic and accordingly, does
not have any particular view on this topic.
d.   *RVCs / PICs*
*(if applicable)* The GAC is concerned about not having heard from the
Board on this issue, not least as it is an outstanding issue for the Next
Round of New gTLDs.
GNSO Designated Speaker: Paul
Talking Points: *TBD – conditional GAC topic*
4. Diacritics work -Likely a new PDP / issue report - GNSO Vote in May
   - update from GNSO
·         The GAC wishes to request a status update on the work being
done on Latin Script Diacritics in New gTLDs  and specifically, the
“.quebec” issue as it relates to fostering a multilingual and inclusive
Internet, including a tentative timeline for decisions and actions.
GNSO Designated Speaker: Greg
Talking Points:
·         The Council had explored approaches to develop a solution to
allow for an ASCII and latin diacritic version of a gTLD to both be
delegated and operated by the same registry operator. One option proposed
by staff was to leverage non-adopted recommendations related to string
similarity, but concerns were raised by Councilors about the procedural
efficacy of doing so.
·         The Council instead elected to request that staff produce an
Issue Report on the topic of diacritics in the Latin script.
·         In terms of timeline, the staff is afforded 45 days to develop
the Preliminary Issue Report, though they can request an extension.
·         That Preliminary Issue Report is published for public comment
for 40 days, like usual.
·         Staff takes into account public comment and produces a Final
Issue Report, which generally includes a draft charter, assuming staff
recommends that a PDP is appropriate.
·         Once the Council is in receipt of the Final Issue Report, it
determines next steps, which could of course include a PDP, but may not if
that step is not warranted or appropriate.
5. WHOIS (including urgent requests) + Accuracy
GNSO Designated Speaker: Greg
a.    *Urgent Requests*
The GAC would welcome a status update from the GNSO Council on where we
stand on this issue, based on the San Juan Communiqué in which the GAC
advises the Board to “to act expeditiously to establish a clear process and
a timeline for the delivery of a policy on Urgent Requests for domain name
registration data”. The GAC would particularly welcome some indications of
what the GNSO think would be the most relevant approach for restarting a
conversation on this topic given that the halt of the IRT work.
·         The GNSO received a message from the Board regarding the status
of urgent requests on Monday, 3 June 2024.
·         In its letter, the Board identified several concerns with Rec.
18 specifically around a separate timeline for the resolution of urgent
requests (situations that pose an imminent threat to life, serious bodily
harm, infrastructure, or child exploitation).
·         Noted Board concerns include:
·         A proposed timeline involving business days is not fit for
purpose - for truly imminent threats, a much shorter response time would be
appropriate
·         Authentication of emergency responders would be appropriate to
protect data subjects
·         It takes time to authenticate emergency responders
·         There is not currently a vehicle with which to conduct this
type of authentication globally
·         The creation, operation, and maintenance of a system cannot be
created, operated, or maintained without the assistance of law enforcement.
·         The Board notes Rec. 18, specifically around urgent requests,
is not fit for purpose and must be revisited, however, there is not an
existing procedure to revisit a previously adopted recommendation when
concerns are identified after the recommendation has been adopted.
·         For reference, the relevant text of Rec. 18 provides, “A
separate timeline of [less than X business days] *will [be] considered* for
the response to ‘Urgent’ Reasonable Disclosure Requests, those Requests for
which evidence is supplied to show an immediate need for disclosure [time
frame to be finalized and criteria set for Urgent requests during
implementation].” (emphasis added) The IRT did *consider* both the
criteria and timeline for urgent requests, but ultimately did not agree.
(Note: the language of the recommendation does not say implemented.)
b.   *Accuracy*
The GAC welcomes any updates from the GNSO on the status of the Data
Protection Specification (DPS) between ICANN and the Contracted Parties.
While the GAC understands that the GNSO views completion of the DPS as a
prerequisite to restarting the work of the Accuracy Scoping Team, the GAC
notes the Board’s recent comments that completion of the DPS will not grant
ICANN access to nonpublic registration data that would enable wide-scale
accuracy studies. Given this information, the GAC welcomes the GNSO’s views
on ICANN org’s Assessment of Registration Data Accuracy Scenarios (October
2023), and in particular on the two proposed alternative approaches put
forward: providing historical data via ICANN’s audit program and engaging
with contracted parties on identity verification practices (including those
of ccTLDs). The GAC further welcomes GNSO Council’s estimation on a
concrete timeline for restarting the work of the Accuracy Scoping Team.
·         The GNSO will be discussing the topic of accuracy during its
meeting on Wednesday, including the two proposed alternatives put forward
by ICANN org in its Assessment of Registration Data Accuracy Scenarios.
·         We will revert back to the GAC following this discussion.
·         The vote on whether to reconvene the Accuracy Scoping Team will
take place during the GNSO council meeting in August. That decision is
likely to be impacted by the level of progress, or lack thereof, from the
Council’s discussions beginning in June.
6.  DNS Abuse-Update on experiences with amended contracts, and news
   on potential policy work -Feedback from CPH Summit on DNS Abuse
·         The GAC welcomes a GNSO Council update on the Contracted
Parties House Summit and a summary of the output document developed
following the meeting.
GNSO Designated Speaker: Greg
Talking Points:
·         The Summit provided Contracted Parties an opportunity to engage
and address issues of mutual interest and importance.
·         As a result an output document was produced showing a
consolidated view on areas of importance and commitment.
·         The identified areas of importance include: Data Accuracy, DNS
Abuse, Multi-Stakeholder Model (MSM), and Privacy.
·         The main statements are:
·         Continuing to support and work through the*multistakeholder
approach* to Internet Governance.
·         Advancing efforts to better engage and share information with
the global Internet community.
·         Continuing *registration data* related efforts.
·         Continuing work aimed at combating *DNS Abuse*.
·         Continuing efforts to preserve and protect the *privacy rights*of
registrants.
·         The CPH offers this outcome document for consideration by the
ICANN Community as well as by governments and other Internet governance
related fora and entities.
·         During the CP summits, the ICANN organization informed the CP
of its plans to update the DNS abuse reporting framework. These reports
will offer historical trends and insights into DNS abuse and will include:
·         The number of complaints received
·         Types of abuse identified
·         Whether the domains were malicious
·         The origin of the notifications
·         Concerns and Challenges:
·         Small registrars are receiving complaints for the first time
and need guidance on tools and methods for implementing and processing
notifications, including database formats. This information should be
accessible only to RrSG and RySG and coordinated by a potential third party.
- The GNSO is currently evaluating how the DNS abuse metrics and measures
might influence policy development.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri
Policy Team Supporting the GNSO
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