This message is in reply not only to Marita's message
quoted here, but to some of the other replies in this
thread as well.
The ALAC has largely stayed out of the .amazon issue,
and for good reasons:
- We are divided - some of our members from the Amazon
basin area feel strongly that the company should not
have has been granted the domain, others feel strongly
that they should
- When we did a poll of ALAC members a while ago, the
larges sentiment was that there not be one side that
wins all and the other gets nothing
The PICs are an attempt to ensure that there is not a
100% loser. How well they meet the countries demands and
how well they will work is not clear, but I see no
reason for the ALAC to get involved in it now. I cannot
see us contributing so wisdom from on high which will
make everyone agree. Put another way, we will certainly
not be a major influence in the outcome, so perhaps (to
quote Douglas Adams) it is mostly harmless, but I see no
real benefit that justifies the work that would nee to
go into it.
The conversation went on to PICs in general. I am a
strong supporter. The madatory PICs were largely as a
result of GAC Advice on sensitive TLDs and they will not
go away. That is good, as we strongly supported them.
Many voluntary PICs were (to quote Carlton) not worth a
warm bucket of spit (or alternatively, a bucket of warm
spit - it is unclear which phrase was used first, but
thereafter they were often interchangeable). But that
really does not matter. There WERE some PICs that were
strong and important. Moreover, it is a mechanism that
CAN be used for a registry that does want to make a
difference. So I think we need to do all we can to
ensure that they stay for the next round(s).
Several people are right that once there, enforcement is
important (not for the "spit" ones, but for the
relatively few that do have meaning). But that is a more
general issue and not purely related to new TLDs.
Alan
At 26/09/2019 11:48 AM, Marita Moll wrote:
Hello CPWG
members. As requested please see below the primary and
secondary sources that were used in researching the
Amazon PICs issue
Primary sources:
*Approved Board resolutions; special meeting of the
Board May 15, 2019
https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2019-05-15-en#1.c
*Text of .amazon PICS -- E-mail to ICANN Board
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/huseman-to-chalaby-17apr19-en.pdf
*Marby to Zaluar correspondence -- June 13, 2019
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/marby-to-zaluar-13jun19-en.pdf
*ICANN Application comment form
https://gtldcomment.icann.org/applicationcomment/login
Secondary sources:
*Domain Mondo's weekly Internet domain news review
June 2, 2019
www.domainmondo.com/2019/06/news-review-icann-gnso-epdp-phase-2.html
*Hold your horses; the last wave of comments on
.amazon hasn't started yet
Kevin Murphy May 24, 2019
domainincite.com/24300-hold-your-horses-the-last-wave-of-comments-on-amazon-hasnt-started-yet
*Amazon wins; ICANN on verge of approving .amazon
despite government outrage
Kevin Murphy, May 19, 2019
domainincite.com/24260-amazon-wins-icann-on-verge-of-approving-amazon-despite-government-outrage
*.amazon domains are getting closer
Konstantinos
Zournas May 29, 2019
https://onlinedomain.com/2019/05/20/domain-name-news/amazon-domain-names-are-getting-closer/
*Jeff Bezos finally gets .Amazon after DNS overlord
runs out of excuses to delay decision any further
Kieran McCarthy May 21, 2019
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05/21/bezos_finally_gets_amazon/
*ICANN says Amazon In's application for .amazon TLD
can proceed following 30 days of public comment
May 20, 2019
www.circleid.com/posts/20190520_icann_says_amazon_inc_application_for_dot_amazon_can_proceed/
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