Don't give an opinion without first informing yourself. I also don't criticize those who don't. This airline system controls planes, their flights, passenger lists, etc. Each party does its own thing, it imposes rules that are not negotiable. It is not a multi-stakeholder system. It is a system where there are many parties with the same rules, with common interests. I am not going to explain what the Internet is, everyone here knows it, that is why they are incomparable systems. In short, we have a system of multiple stakeholders that must negotiate according to the interests of each of the parties.

Greetings

Alberto

De: Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>
Enviado el: miércoles, 11 de diciembre de 2024 18:12
Para: alberto@soto.net.ar
CC: Nat Cohen <ncohen@telepathy.com>; NARALO Discussion List <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; CPWG <cpwg@icann.org>
Asunto: Re: [CPWG] Re: What could have been, and what can still be

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 2:55 PM <alberto@soto.net.ar> wrote:

No country wants to close its airports to foreign airlines

Tell that to El Al, Iran Air, Cubana or S7.

IMO you are absolutely misinformed in this regard.

Many countries close access to not only their airports but also their airspace.

British Airways no longer operates London to Beijing because of the closure of Russian airspace.

There is an entire list of airlines and home bases for airlines that are banned by the EU.

Even in Argentina, there is a standing ban on Venezuela's Conviasa airline.

Indeed, the airspace-banning component has no Internet equivalent (so far). It would be like a country filtering-out packets containing any source or destination IP addresses from banned countries using any Internet infrastructure within its borders. Then again, I'm not sure if there is an airline equivalent of VPNs, but those too have been banned or restricted in a number of countries.

In any case, I never said the air industry model could be copied 100%. My broader point is about the necessary involvement of an international treaty organization, working in tandem with a completely separate body representing commercial interests.

Russia just did a test a few days ago, and many Russian users were left without access.

Russian flyers are also left without access to European, North American and other airports. That was lost two years ago.

Meanwhile, because of the lack of any accountability or treaty, the .su domain continues as a worldwide home for bad actors.

Thank you for helping to make my point regarding similar political threats that must be dealt with by both environments.

- Evan