I do agree with Michael that we should not loose sight of the fact that ATRT was a process enshrined into ICANN bylaw(re:ATRT). The issue for me is not a question of whether ATRT should remain or not but how ICANN is attempting to get rid of ATRT. If the process has become such a resource guzzling activity then ICANN should come back to the community to find a fix to it. ATRT 3 still has less than 60% implementation, unless a new ATRT will be looking into a major structural review, allowing more time to implement v3 and introducing a lighter version ATRT may be a good way forward but that discussion needs to have occurred within the community (and the Board).

Once a force has been able to get a vehicle jump started, it's good to let go, continuing to push the vehicle can be a waste of resources. Previous ATRTs have achieved a lot of the objective of the activity and perhaps a longer periodic trigger for ATRT would be ideal if having a lighter version with much smaller scope is not desirable by the community.

Regards

On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 at 13:07, michael palage.com via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:

Thanks for pointing out Milton’s constructive response.

I have responded to his comments to hopefully continue a constructive dialogue.

From: Judith Hellerstein via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org>
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2025 at 12:08 PM
To: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>
Cc: CPWG <cpwg@icann.org>, alac@icann.org <alac@icann.org>
Subject: [CPWG] Re: The DNS Is Broken - Response

Hi Carlton,

Very interesting. Milton is not wrong in many of his points.

Judith

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On Jun 18, 2025, at 12:00 PM, Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:

Y'all might have already seen on one or other of these lists the article authored by Michael Palage and now published in CirceID.

The response from one of my favourite polemicists, Milton Mueller, is as interesting.

https://circleid.com/posts/icann-is-broken

Carlton

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