So, is your recommendation that we just not bother getting into this? You will know that there is a pic dispute resolution process. You are saying this is not adequate?

It is a serious question. I don't have a strong sense yet, from the community, about our role in this process. In fact, in the processes offered to address it, the ICANN application comment form (see below) it looks like only individuals can send in comments.

Marita

On 9/27/2019 12:45 AM, Carlton Samuels wrote:
The PICs live and die on enforcement.  Long ago, I declared them to be not 'worth a bucket of warm spit'.

You needn't be clairvoyant or particularly prescient to see the enforcement mechanism would have been useless for those who are aggrieved unless there are third party enforcement rights of action. 

-Carlton

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On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:48 AM Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:

Hello CPWG members. As requested please see below the primary and secondary sources that were used in researching the Amazon PICs issue

Primary sources:

*Approved Board resolutions; special meeting of the Board  May 15, 2019

https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2019-05-15-en#1.c

*Text of .amazon PICS -- E-mail to ICANN Board

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/huseman-to-chalaby-17apr19-en.pdf

*Marby to Zaluar correspondence -- June 13, 2019

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/marby-to-zaluar-13jun19-en.pdf

*ICANN Application comment form

https://gtldcomment.icann.org/applicationcomment/login

Secondary sources:

*Domain Mondo's weekly Internet domain news review June 2, 2019

www.domainmondo.com/2019/06/news-review-icann-gnso-epdp-phase-2.html


*Hold your horses; the last wave of comments on .amazon hasn't started yet

Kevin Murphy May 24, 2019

domainincite.com/24300-hold-your-horses-the-last-wave-of-comments-on-amazon-hasnt-started-yet

*Amazon wins; ICANN on verge of approving .amazon despite government outrage

Kevin Murphy, May 19, 2019

domainincite.com/24260-amazon-wins-icann-on-verge-of-approving-amazon-despite-government-outrage


*.amazon domains are getting closer

Konstantinos Zournas May 29, 2019  

https://onlinedomain.com/2019/05/20/domain-name-news/amazon-domain-names-are-getting-closer/

*Jeff Bezos finally gets .Amazon after DNS overlord runs out of excuses to delay decision any further

Kieran McCarthy May 21, 2019

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05/21/bezos_finally_gets_amazon/


*ICANN says Amazon In's application for .amazon TLD can proceed following 30 days of public comment

May 20, 2019

www.circleid.com/posts/20190520_icann_says_amazon_inc_application_for_dot_amazon_can_proceed/

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