Dear Michelle and John,

Thank you.

I shared it on this list as an example of a Registry that makes a distinction between classes of Registrants. In GDPR discussions, one of the topics is Legal Vs Natural Persons, .ie could be one of the models for implementing such a distinction in the TLD space.  In the gTLD space, registration might not require manual attention if the distinction is merely a matter of having more fields of data for legal persons, unless the Registry feels it necessary to verify the data so furnished by the Registrant. 



On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:39 PM Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
John

The .ie whois is not thin - it's thick

Unlike with gTLDs the fields are left blank when the data is not being made public, so any .ie registered to anyone other than a legal person aka a limited company is left blank.

The documentation requirements have, thankfully, been reduced significantly over the last few years, but they still can cause headaches.

Domain registration is NOT anything close to "real time" and registrations are only processed (manually) during Irish office hours.

All of these, and other factors, mean that interactions with .ie domain names are slow, manual and costly compared to most other domain extensions.

Regards

Michele


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On 14/10/2020, 16:57, "CPWG on behalf of John McCormac" <cpwg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of jmcc@hosterstats.com> wrote:

    On 14/10/2020 16:02, sivasubramanian muthusamy wrote:
    >
    > We could ask .ie what this is all about, and how it works:
    >
    > https://www.iedr.ie/document-requirements/
    >
    >

    The .IE is a managed ccTLD and it requires some documentation to prove
    that the prospective registrant is entitled to register the domain name.
    IEDR has relaxed the registration rules in the last few years. Many of
    the SMEs are what is known as sole traders. These are indivudals trading
    in their own name or with a registered business name. The equivalent US
    version would be the "doing business as/DBA). A registered business name
    is registered through the Companies Registrations Office (www.cro.ie)
    and the registry can look up the number of the registered business name
    quite quickly. The company number registration number (for Irish
    companies) can also be checked on the CRO website. The site also
    explains the other categories. The .IE WHOIS is a thin WHOIS. The
    registration process has come a long way in the last twenty years and
    most new registrations in the Irish market would be in .IE rather than
    the gTLDs. The only competing new gTLD is the .IRISH and that's only
    around 3K registrations compared to the 300K .IE registrations. The
    Irish market is quite unusual in that there's a considerable overlap
    with the Northern Irish and UK markets. The biggest non-Irish ccTLD in
    the Irish hosting market is actually .UK with about 33K .UK domain names
    on Irish market hosters.

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