I agree with all the
points that Roberto has made, that there is a serious breach of
trust issue here. It is certainly up to ISOC chapters to hold
the ISOC board to account. But is there any role for AtLarge at
this level? Join the protest, sign on to the petition? I am not
sure that is where we fit in -- but I am happy to be convinced
otherwise.
What can we ask of
ICANN though? We certainly should ask if there were any
indications of this sale before or during the discussion re:
removing price caps is one thing we can ask. That needs to be
clarified. It feels a bit like a sucker punch......... did it
come straight out of the blue, or did some people see it coming?
If anyone did, what obligations did those people have to inform
the community? According to a just established PIR website re:
this sale (https://www.keypointsabout.org/),
there were no activities that led to the sale before the lifting
of the price caps. They maintain there was no connection.
The bigger question is
what can be done about it, or, more specifically, what should we
be asking to be done about it? We could just indicate our
displeasure, but that isn't helpful in the end.
What are the possible remedies. Can ICANN revisit/adjust the price cap lift without facing a major lawsuit? Can ICANN demand that ISOC/PIR reopen the bidding so a non-profit organization could be chosen as new owner? Can ICANN place restrictions on the .org contracts (don't ask me what that could consist of) that would mitigate the possibility for exploitation at the hands of a venture capital firm?
I have been reading
tons and tons of e-mails on this issue, but I don't see a lot of
answers to the question about what actual/possible remedies
might be available here.
Marita
Sebastian
I see the reason for ISOC's selling as an issue relating to their breach of trust and the subsequent loss of everyone's trust and confidence in ISOC and the ISOC principles PIR were tasked to uphold on behalf of "non-commercial, NGO and nonprofit community" As end-users I see Trust as the basis on which to argue further issues
My 2c
On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 7:33 PM Sebastien Bachollet <sebicann@bachollet.fr> wrote:
Thanks Roberto_______________________________________________After reading your brainstorming paper, I can confirm my position.We have to question not who is the buyer but why and how the seller is selling .org?SeB
Sébastien BacholletEnvoyé de mon iPhone
Le 23 nov. 2019 à 23:45, Roberto Gaetano <mail.roberto.gaetano@gmail.com> a écrit :
I was thinking of starting jotting down some ideas about what are the things that we should consider about the transfer of control of .org - other than the fear about the price raise that we have already abundantly discussed._______________________________________________
I believe that it is essentially a matter of trust.A year ago, day more, day less, ISOC had issue a call for candidatures for PIR Board members - myself and two other Directors were ending our term in 2019 and needed to be replaced. The selection process was supervised by ISOC Board of Trustees - or a committee thereof. That was guaranteeing alignment of the PIR Board with ISOC values. Who will select the two PIR Directors that will replace the ones ending their terms? What will be the requested profile? When ISOC was selecting, the requested profiles were public, as the call for candidatures. If the process is meant to follow a similar path it should be starting now.
This is important for two reasons: first because of the transparency of the selection of Directors who will supervise the “Public Interest” Registry - but also because the process was run by an organization that was trusted by the community. Anybody here trusting the investment fund that is taking over?
I remember that when I was chairing the PIR Board we had regular meetings with ISOC’s Board of Trustees. That was ensuring that the technical decisions taken by PIR were aligned with ISOC’s principles. This is now gone. PIR Board will, at the most, meet with the investors to make sure that the profits are maximized.
PIR has taken over the years positions against some of the unethical or dangerous practices that had as sole purpose to squeeze more money from the market without looking at the unintended negative effects, like for instance the wildcard - see as a reference the CircleID article at http://www.circleid.com/posts/pir_opposes_sitefinder_will_not_implement_similar_service_for_org. PIR also curbed the so-called "domain tasting” by charging Registrars who were practicing it. But besides fighting against unethical practices, PIR has also positively supported good practices, like for instance DNSSEC - PIR was the first gTLD to sign the zone, see https://www.securityweek.com/dnssec-becomes-reality-today-icann-brussels. It should be reminded that implementation of DNSSEC was not bringing additional income, just additional work. I have been in the Board of PIR for 6 years, 2+ of them as Chair, and I acknowledge that I might be biased, but those above are facts, not opinions. Will PIR under the new regime be allowed to take the same stance in defence of “doing the right thing” according to its ethics, or will it be forced to “do the thing that brings a better return on investment”? You can guess my answer, but what is yours?
Let me stress it again, it is not about the fees, it is about having or not a champion that will stand up for “doing the right thing” in a market that is dominated by greed. Without a .org run in the public interest, even with sometimes some mistakes, but always with good intentions and with the ability to change decisions when the Internet users told us we were wrong (remember the SCADR issue?), the Internet will be a different place. And this is what is, IMHO, the real problem.
Best regards,Roberto
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