Hi Judith:
Exactly.  I quite agree this matter of commitment, a choice between personal damnation, the unmooring of one's soul and bruised national pride vs. attending an ICANN meeting, must be an intensely personal decision. 

This is how "ranking" begins; all are equal but some are more equal than others.

What I cannot agree with is that it should be an At-Large position. On principle.

Carlton


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On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 at 16:07, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
Hi Carlton,
Claire and I have taken everyone down this Rabbit hole since there is an open public comment on scheduling the dates for the iCANN meetings from 2029-2033 and several of them conflict with Muslim, Jewish and other religious holidays.  In At Large we try and make sure that all participants do not have to choose to either attend an icann meeting or celebrate their religious holiday. Or national holiday.  It is very easy to see all the holidays and ICANN can easily check a list of holidays so that that participants do not have tp choose one or the other.  

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On Nov 21, 2025, at 4:02 PM, Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:


Big +1.

I'm gobsmacked this is a thing! Who would even insist on going down that rabbit hole?  

I can speak as a former acolyte over at St. Paul of the Cross. Observations of high holy days may not be deprived to anyone. And I forswear my position as an attempt to deprive any man or beast the entitlement to his/her religious callings and observations. But you may not impose, much less foist, those sensibilities on me. 

If I may suggest this remedy: record an apology and don't show up for anything scheduled for your days. 

If we insist, I should be vociferously adamant that Emancipation Day (August 1) celebrated in the former British colonial outposts and Jamaica's Independence Day (August 6) may not be discriminated against and are duly recognized and adopted.

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On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 at 11:36, avri doria via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> wrote:

Hi,

Probably in a minority of few if not one, but I believe we should ignore all holidays except for those which the labor law in our various office locations require.  We can skip any meeting and can catch up on the recordings of any meeting held.

avri


On 11/20/2025 16:49, Judith Hellerstein via CPWG wrote:

Hi Olivier,

This calendar does not have Jewish, Muslim, Hindu or other religious holidays

Judith

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On 11/20/25 4:42 PM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via CPWG wrote:


On 20/11/2025 20:28, Marita Moll via CPWG wrote:
Are we reinventing the wheel here?

Yup. ;-)
https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/

Kindest regards,

Olivier 
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