I liked that bit too Alberto .:) On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 10:38 AM <alberto@soto.net.ar> wrote:
I like this: “Successful specifications will provide some benefit to all the
relevant parties because standards do not represent a zero-sum game.
However, there are sometimes situations where there is a conflict
between the needs of two (or more) parties.
In these situations, when one of those parties is an "end user" of
the Internet -- for example, a person using a web browser, mail
client, or another agent that connects to the Internet -- the
Internet Architecture Board argues that the IETF should favor their
interests over those of other parties.”
*De:* CPWG <cpwg-bounces@icann.org> *En nombre de *Jonathan Zuck *Enviado el:* sábado, 29 de agosto de 2020 17:22 *Para:* Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> *CC:* cpwg@icann.org *Asunto:* Re: [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users
And in the near term, Holly might want to bring it up during her DOH webinar...
Jonathan Zuck Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org ------------------------------
*From:* Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:20:10 PM *To:* Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> *Cc:* cpwg@icann.org <cpwg@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users
Thank you David,
@Jonathan, it is worth discussing RFC8890 at at-large.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 11:08 PM Jonathan Zuck < JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Thanks David. Very interesting. The At-Large DOES operate on some principles, for sure and this has lead to disagreements with others in things like GDPR compliance and indigenous interests to domain names. It's difficult to be so out numbered but I'll be interested
to see where this goes. Thanks for sharing.
Jonathan
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*From:* CPWG <cpwg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of David Mackey < mackey361@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:49:29 PM
*To:* CPWG <cpwg@icann.org>
*Subject:* [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users
FYI:
The Internet Architecture Board (IAB) recently published “RFC: 8890 - The Internet is for End Users” which some people in the CPWG may find interesting.
The RFC highlights a number of important policy/standards areas that overlap with At-Large policy creation.
The IAB seems to feel it’s important for IETF standards to be developed under the guidance of explicitly stated principles. The idea of policy making being guided by explicitly stated principles is something that the At-Large community may wish to consider
too.
RFC 8890 - The Internet is for End Users <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8890>
Mark Nottingham’s Blog Post <https://www.mnot.net/blog/2020/08/28/for_the_users> which describes the reasons for publishing RFC 8890.
Cheers!
David
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