When you mentioned grammarians, I couldn't resist so I did a full edit. I hope it's helpful. ======================= The members of the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) appreciate the opportunity to submit this addendum to the statement that was submitted on 29 July 2020. The ALAC, along with its EPDP team, has reviewed and discussed the statements submitted by the BC/IPC, the consensus positions submitted by the GAC and SSAC and comments submitted by the other EPDP Member groups. Although the ALAC statement differs in approach, the ALAC is in general agreement with the positions taken by the GAC, SSAC and BC/IPC. The ALAC has chosen to dissent with the recommendations, that required a year of heated debate to produce, with some trepidation. However, proceeding without addressing the issues that, we believe, are critical to the success of an SSAD will result in a system that will not meet needs of SSAD users nor provide the mechanism to resolve those deficiencies in the future. We hope that the GNSO and, if necessary, the Board will consider these unresolved issues as this approval process moves forward. ======================== On 8/20/20, 10:41 AM, "CPWG on behalf of Alan Greenberg" <cpwg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote: I think that DEBATE is correct in this case. As in the title of this Wall Street Journal article - After Years of Debate - https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-years-of-debate-confederate-symbols-disap.... Any grammarians out there?? Alan At 2020-08-20 03:32 AM, Matthias M. Hudobnik wrote: >Thanks Alan! > >Just a minor change recommendation from my side: _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

Well, it should either be both or neither but we don’t need to obsess over it. 😉 From: Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 5:56 PM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>, "Matthias M. Hudobnik" <matthias@hudobnik.at>, CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CPWG] ALAC EPDP Statement Addendum - v03 Folks A comma (in red) that should not be there. Otherwise, perfect Holly On Aug 21, 2020, at 1:04 AM, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote: When you mentioned grammarians, I couldn't resist so I did a full edit. I hope it's helpful. ======================= The members of the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) appreciate the opportunity to submit this addendum to the statement that was submitted on 29 July 2020. The ALAC, along with its EPDP team, has reviewed and discussed the statements submitted by the BC/IPC, the consensus positions submitted by the GAC and SSAC and comments submitted by the other EPDP Member groups. Although the ALAC statement differs in approach, the ALAC is in general agreement with the positions taken by the GAC, SSAC and BC/IPC. The ALAC has chosen to dissent with the recommendations, that required a year of heated debate to produce, with some trepidation. However, proceeding without addressing the issues that, we believe, are critical to the success of an SSAD will result in a system that will not meet needs of SSAD users nor provide the mechanism to resolve those deficiencies in the future. We hope that the GNSO and, if necessary, the Board will consider these unresolved issues as this approval process moves forward. ======================== On 8/20/20, 10:41 AM, "CPWG on behalf of Alan Greenberg" <cpwg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cpwg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> wrote: I think that DEBATE is correct in this case. As in the title of this Wall Street Journal article - After Years of Debate - https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-years-of-debate-confederate-symbols-disap.... Any grammarians out there?? Alan At 2020-08-20 03:32 AM, Matthias M. Hudobnik wrote: Thanks Alan! Just a minor change recommendation from my side: _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG@icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG@icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

Well trepidation was meant to mirror, not doing it lightly. I think there's been plenty of trepidation about saying nothing is better than something but it's your draft. Sorry if I changed the meaning anywhere. Not my intention. Mostly just removed passive voice. Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org> ________________________________ From: Alan Greenberg <greenberg.alan@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 1:03:43 AM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>; Matthias M. Hudobnik <matthias@hudobnik.at> Cc: CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CPWG] ALAC EPDP Statement Addendum - v03 Thanks Jonathan, Unfortunately in a several of places, your revision changes the meaning/intent. I'll send a revision merging the two shortly. Hopefully the final version. As an aside, I have not sensed any "trepidation" in our community. Sadness and regret that it has come to this is more what I have felt. Alan At 2020-08-20 11:04 AM, Jonathan Zuck wrote:

When you mentioned grammarians, I couldn't resist so I did a full edit. I hope it's helpful.

======================= The members of the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) appreciate the opportunity to submit this addendum to the statement that was submitted on 29 July 2020.

The ALAC, along with its EPDP team, has reviewed and discussed the statements submitted by the BC/IPC, the consensus positions submitted by the GAC and SSAC and comments submitted by the other EPDP Member groups.

Although the ALAC statement differs in approach, the ALAC is in general agreement with the positions taken by the GAC, SSAC and BC/IPC. The ALAC has chosen to dissent with the recommendations, that required a year of heated debate to produce, with some trepidation. However, proceeding without addressing the issues that, we believe, are critical to the success of an SSAD will result in a system that will not meet needs of SSAD users nor provide the mechanism to resolve those deficiencies in the future. We hope that the GNSO and, if necessary, the Board will consider these unresolved issues as this approval process moves forward. ========================

On 8/20/20, 10:41 AM, "CPWG on behalf of Alan Greenberg" <cpwg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:

I think that DEBATE is correct in this case. As in the title of this Wall Street Journal article - After Years of Debate -

https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-years-of-debate-confederate-symbols-disap....

Any grammarians out there??

Alan

At 2020-08-20 03:32 AM, Matthias M. Hudobnik wrote: >Thanks Alan! > >Just a minor change recommendation from my side:

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