Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Call for feedback on proposed At-Large/ALAC positions to New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Supplemental Initial Report
Christopher: +1 to your position against auctions. The fact is underserved communities without a rich sponsor shall always be further disadvantaged. Especially now that we know the mood pertaining auction proceeds have not improved the prospects for this community! Our side got spooked and fears being seen as advocating an affirmative action in favour of the economically weak and dispossessed - our [or I should say some of us] objective for the Applicant Support Initiative - and we are where we are today. The ruthlessly deterministic side of one's mind say it is always a good thing to help someone with too much money than sense spend it ...in the public interest. Unhappily, one cannot guarantee outcomes. A bold statement against is better than the "on-the-one-hand-er-maybe-depends-on-the-other-hand...." of the draft. Good for you! -Carlton On Thu, 13 Dec 2018, 1:20 pm <cw@christopherwilkinson.eu wrote:
Dear Carlton: Thankyou for your support. Please post your comments (as detailed as you like) to the List.
Best regards
Christopher
On 12 Dec 2018, at 13:27, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris: Refreshing to see your position against auctions boldly stated. Indeed, it is a far cry better that the muddled 'well, yes,..no, ...but maybe if..' offered by the draft, seemingly predicated on the authors' view that it is the conductor of the auction that will eliminate 'private collisions'.
Cheers, -Carlton
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
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On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 2:23 PM cw@christopherwilkinson.eu < cw@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Dear Justine:
Thankyou for this update. However, I don’t find responses to the recommendations/questions on the revised slides. Perhaps the new slides have not yet been posted - ?
I would have a few comments and suggestions,. But I have great technical difficulty in posting on the workspace .Perhaps a staff member could walk me through what I am supposed to be doing to achieve that..
Meanwhile, for reference, I attach my original draft responses.
Best regards
Christopher
On 4 Dec 2018, at 11:27, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Wiki workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/Jh68BQ <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FJh68BQ&...>
Further to my early Nov call for inputs, I have prepared proposed positions / abbreviated responses to the preliminary recommendations, options and questions posed by the Subsequent Procedures PDP WG on the 5 additional topics. These are contained in *slides 6, 7, 10, 11, 14, 17, 18, 19, 22 and 23* of the updated presentation posted at the wiki workspace.
I invite you to share your feedback on these. Please do so either:
(1) *preferably*, by posting on the relevant wiki workspace - if possible, please post inputs corresponding to each of the 5 additional topics in reply to the 5 posts set out on the wiki page; or
(2) by replying to this email thread on the CPWG mail list, citing the topic accordingly in your reply.
As a final statement is due for submission on 12 December, I would appreciate receiving feedback promptly to allow me to proceed with drafting a proper statement this coming week.
Thank you,
Justine Chew -----
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 00:26, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
Folks,
Sorry, Wrong link provided earlier.
The correct wiki workspace link is https://community.icann.org/x/Jh68BQ <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FJh68BQ&...>
Cheers,
Justine Chew -----
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 00:22, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Further to the backgrounder presentation made during the call earlier today (on 7 Nov) on the New gTLD SubPro Supplemental Initial Report (WT 1-4), I now invite you to share your inputs on the 5 additional topics for the CPWG's onward deliberations.
Topic 2.1 Auctions: Mechanism of Last Resort Topic 2.2 Private Resolution of Contention Sets (including Private Auctions) Topic 2.3 Role of Application Comment Topic 2.4 Change Request Topic 2.5 Registrar Support for New gTLDs
Please do so either:
(1) *preferably*, by posting on the relevant wiki workspace found at https://community.icann.org/x/_wq8BQ <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2F_wq8BQ&...> - if possible, please post inputs corresponding to each of the 5 additional topics in reply to the 5 posts set out on the wiki page; or
(2) by starting an email thread on the CPWG mail list marked with [SubPro SIR] and the topic.
Thank you,
Justine Chew -----
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Dear Carlton, Thank you for your feedback. I would just like to point out that the draft was developed based on a majority view of members of the CPWG established on the 5 Dec call and not the sole views of the author (ie me). Please do also have a look at the new email thread started by Olivier yesterday on the issue of auctions. Justine ----- On Fri, 14 Dec 2018, 23:44 Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com wrote:
Christopher: +1 to your position against auctions.
The fact is underserved communities without a rich sponsor shall always be further disadvantaged. Especially now that we know the mood pertaining auction proceeds have not improved the prospects for this community!
Our side got spooked and fears being seen as advocating an affirmative action in favour of the economically weak and dispossessed - our [or I should say some of us] objective for the Applicant Support Initiative - and we are where we are today.
The ruthlessly deterministic side of one's mind say it is always a good thing to help someone with too much money than sense spend it ...in the public interest. Unhappily, one cannot guarantee outcomes.
A bold statement against is better than the "on-the-one-hand-er-maybe-depends-on-the-other-hand...." of the draft.
Good for you!
-Carlton
On Thu, 13 Dec 2018, 1:20 pm <cw@christopherwilkinson.eu wrote:
Dear Carlton: Thankyou for your support. Please post your comments (as detailed as you like) to the List.
Best regards
Christopher
On 12 Dec 2018, at 13:27, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris: Refreshing to see your position against auctions boldly stated. Indeed, it is a far cry better that the muddled 'well, yes,..no, ...but maybe if..' offered by the draft, seemingly predicated on the authors' view that it is the conductor of the auction that will eliminate 'private collisions'.
Cheers, -Carlton
============================== *Carlton A Samuels*
*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 2:23 PM cw@christopherwilkinson.eu < cw@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Dear Justine:
Thankyou for this update. However, I don’t find responses to the recommendations/questions on the revised slides. Perhaps the new slides have not yet been posted - ?
I would have a few comments and suggestions,. But I have great technical difficulty in posting on the workspace .Perhaps a staff member could walk me through what I am supposed to be doing to achieve that..
Meanwhile, for reference, I attach my original draft responses.
Best regards
Christopher
On 4 Dec 2018, at 11:27, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Wiki workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/Jh68BQ <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FJh68BQ&...>
Further to my early Nov call for inputs, I have prepared proposed positions / abbreviated responses to the preliminary recommendations, options and questions posed by the Subsequent Procedures PDP WG on the 5 additional topics. These are contained in *slides 6, 7, 10, 11, 14, 17, 18, 19, 22 and 23* of the updated presentation posted at the wiki workspace.
I invite you to share your feedback on these. Please do so either:
(1) *preferably*, by posting on the relevant wiki workspace - if possible, please post inputs corresponding to each of the 5 additional topics in reply to the 5 posts set out on the wiki page; or
(2) by replying to this email thread on the CPWG mail list, citing the topic accordingly in your reply.
As a final statement is due for submission on 12 December, I would appreciate receiving feedback promptly to allow me to proceed with drafting a proper statement this coming week.
Thank you,
Justine Chew -----
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 00:26, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
Folks,
Sorry, Wrong link provided earlier.
The correct wiki workspace link is https://community.icann.org/x/Jh68BQ <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FJh68BQ&...>
Cheers,
Justine Chew -----
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 00:22, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Further to the backgrounder presentation made during the call earlier today (on 7 Nov) on the New gTLD SubPro Supplemental Initial Report (WT 1-4), I now invite you to share your inputs on the 5 additional topics for the CPWG's onward deliberations.
Topic 2.1 Auctions: Mechanism of Last Resort Topic 2.2 Private Resolution of Contention Sets (including Private Auctions) Topic 2.3 Role of Application Comment Topic 2.4 Change Request Topic 2.5 Registrar Support for New gTLDs
Please do so either:
(1) *preferably*, by posting on the relevant wiki workspace found at https://community.icann.org/x/_wq8BQ <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2F_wq8BQ&...> - if possible, please post inputs corresponding to each of the 5 additional topics in reply to the 5 posts set out on the wiki page; or
(2) by starting an email thread on the CPWG mail list marked with [SubPro SIR] and the topic.
Thank you,
Justine Chew -----
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