[Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: * Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” * Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. * Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? * Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” * Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? * Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> > on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar <mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar> > Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> ] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar <mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> > On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). Thanks Donna Donna Austin Neustar, Inc. / Senior Policy Manager, Registry Solutions Mobile: +1 310 890 9655 <mailto:donna.austin@team.neustar> donna.austin@team.neustar / Website: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.home.neustar_&d=DwMF...> home.neustar Follow Neustar: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_company...> LinkedIn / <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.twitter.com_neustar&...> Twitter Reduce your environmental footprint. Print only if necessary. The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. 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Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). Thanks Donna Donna Austin Neustar, Inc. / Senior Policy Manager, Registry Solutions Mobile: +1 310 890 9655 donna.austin@team.neustar / Website: home.neustar Follow Neustar: LinkedIn / Twitter Reduce your environmental footprint. Print only if necessary. The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> > Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> >, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: * Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” * Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” * Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) * Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” * Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? * Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel < <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel < <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" < <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" < <mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: " <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org" < <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto: <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna < <mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). Thanks Donna Donna Austin Neustar, Inc. / Senior Policy Manager, Registry Solutions Mobile: +1 310 890 9655 <mailto:donna.austin@team.neustar> donna.austin@team.neustar / Website: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.home.neustar_&d=DwMF...> home.neustar Follow Neustar: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_company...> LinkedIn / <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.twitter.com_neustar&...> Twitter Reduce your environmental footprint. Print only if necessary. The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. 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Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). Thanks Donna Donna Austin Neustar, Inc. / Senior Policy Manager, Registry Solutions Mobile: +1 310 890 9655 donna.austin@team.neustar / Website: home.neustar Follow Neustar: LinkedIn / Twitter Reduce your environmental footprint. Print only if necessary. The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> > Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> >, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> >; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> >, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: * Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” * Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” * Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) * Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” * Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? * Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel < <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel < <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" < <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" < <mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: " <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org" < <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto: <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna < <mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). 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Version 3 included. Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). Thanks Donna Donna Austin Neustar, Inc. / Senior Policy Manager, Registry Solutions Mobile: +1 310 890 9655 donna.austin@team.neustar / Website: home.neustar Follow Neustar: LinkedIn / Twitter Reduce your environmental footprint. Print only if necessary. The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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Hi Bart, Joke, all, Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!). On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report. Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:35 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Version 3 included. Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> > Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> >, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> >; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> > Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> >, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> >; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> > Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> >, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: * Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” * Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” * Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) * Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” * Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? * Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel < <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel < <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" < <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" < <mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: " <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org" < <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto: <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna < <mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). Thanks Donna Donna Austin Neustar, Inc. / Senior Policy Manager, Registry Solutions Mobile: +1 310 890 9655 <mailto:donna.austin@team.neustar> donna.austin@team.neustar / Website: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.home.neustar_&d=DwMF...> home.neustar Follow Neustar: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_company...> LinkedIn / <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.twitter.com_neustar&...> Twitter Reduce your environmental footprint. Print only if necessary. The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. 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Hi Martin, all, Please let me know if you’re available tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday morning (8:00-9:00 am) for a CSC Review Team meeting. Thanks, Ria From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Martin Boyle via CSC-Review <CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org>, "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Joke, all, Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!). On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report. Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:35 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Version 3 included. Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). Thanks Donna Donna Austin Neustar, Inc. / Senior Policy Manager, Registry Solutions Mobile: +1 310 890 9655 donna.austin@team.neustar / Website: home.neustar Follow Neustar: LinkedIn / Twitter Reduce your environmental footprint. Print only if necessary. The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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All, We suggest it to meet to identify the final steps to finalise the Initial report. Kind regards, Bart From: Maria Otanes <maria.otanes@icann.org> Date: Monday 12 March 2018 at 11:31 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org>, "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, all, Please let me know if you’re available tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday morning (8:00-9:00 am) for a CSC Review Team meeting. Thanks, Ria From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Martin Boyle via CSC-Review <CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org>, "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Joke, all, Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!). On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report. Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:35 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Version 3 included. Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). Thanks Donna Donna Austin Neustar, Inc. / Senior Policy Manager, Registry Solutions Mobile: +1 310 890 9655 donna.austin@team.neustar / Website: home.neustar Follow Neustar: LinkedIn / Twitter Reduce your environmental footprint. Print only if necessary. The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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If it’s not too late i can do 8am tomorrow. Just let me know where. Donna Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> wrote: All, We suggest it to meet to identify the final steps to finalise the Initial report. Kind regards, Bart From: Maria Otanes <maria.otanes@icann.org<mailto:maria.otanes@icann.org>> Date: Monday 12 March 2018 at 11:31 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>, "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, all, Please let me know if you’re available tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday morning (8:00-9:00 am) for a CSC Review Team meeting. Thanks, Ria From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Martin Boyle via CSC-Review <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Reply-To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>, "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Joke, all, Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!). On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report. Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:35 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Version 3 included. Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: * Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” * Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” * Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) * Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” * Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? * Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). 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Is the Sheraton breakfast restaurant ok? On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> wrote:
If it’s not too late i can do 8am tomorrow. Just let me know where.
Donna
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On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote:
All,
We suggest it to meet to identify the final steps to finalise the Initial report.
Kind regards,
Bart
*From: *Maria Otanes <maria.otanes@icann.org> *Date: *Monday 12 March 2018 at 11:31 *To: *Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>, Bart Boswinkel < bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc: *Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org>, "CSC-review@icann.org" < CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Martin, all,
Please let me know if you’re available tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday morning (8:00-9:00 am) for a CSC Review Team meeting.
Thanks,
Ria
*From: *CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Martin Boyle via CSC-Review <CSC-review@icann.org> *Reply-To: *Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> *Date: *Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM *To: *Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc: *Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org>, "CSC-review@icann.org" < CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Bart, Joke, all,
Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!).
On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report.
Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication.
Thanks
Martin
*From:* Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> *Sent:* 11 March 2018 16:35 *To:* Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc:* CSC-review@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Version 3 included.
Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna
Bart
*From: *Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> *Date: *Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 *To: *Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc: *"CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet!
*From:* Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> *Sent:* 11 March 2018 16:03 *To:* Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc:* CSC-review@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Martin,
I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency
Would this work for all?
Bart
*From: *Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> *Date: *Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 *To: *Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc: *"CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Bart,
Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning.
If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings.
Thanks
Martin
*From:* Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> *Sent:* 11 March 2018 15:38 *To:* Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc:* CSC-review@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Martin,
See inserted comment on slide 6
Other suggestions included in the updated slides
*From: *Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> *Date: *Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 *To: *'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com>, Bart Boswinkel < bart.boswinkel@icann.org> *Cc: *"CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *[Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Bart and thanks for doing this.
I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions:
- Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” - Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive.
BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: *“**the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” *
- Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)?
BB Comment. Added (operational decision)
- Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” - Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? - Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama?
BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May.
Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June.
That’s it from me
Thanks
Martin
*From:* CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Elaine Pruis *Sent:* 11 March 2018 10:21 *To:* Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> *Cc:* CSC-review@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6
Thanks Bart
Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures
Elaine
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote:
Donna, all,
Please find included draft deck
Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30.
Most likely that will be short meeting
Kind regards,
BArt
*From: *CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org> *Reply-To: *"Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> *Date: *Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 *To: *"CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *[CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6
Bart
Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO?
Thanks
Donna
*From:* Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM *To:* Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6
Thanks Donna,
This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached.
For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors.
Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped!
I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments.
Thanks
Martin
*From:* CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Austin, Donna via CSC-Review *Sent:* 07 March 2018 01:01 *To:* CSC-review@icann.org *Subject:* [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6
Hi All
Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated.
I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support).
Thanks
Donna
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Fine by me! Martin Boyle Sent from my iPhone
On 12 Mar 2018, at 22:26, Elaine Pruis <elainepruis@gmail.com> wrote:
Is the Sheraton breakfast restaurant ok?
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> wrote: If it’s not too late i can do 8am tomorrow. Just let me know where.
Donna
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote:
All,
We suggest it to meet to identify the final steps to finalise the Initial report.
Kind regards,
Bart
From: Maria Otanes <maria.otanes@icann.org> Date: Monday 12 March 2018 at 11:31 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org>, "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Martin, all,
Please let me know if you’re available tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday morning (8:00-9:00 am) for a CSC Review Team meeting.
Thanks,
Ria
From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Martin Boyle via CSC-Review <CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org>, "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Bart, Joke, all,
Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!).
On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report.
Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication.
Thanks
Martin
From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:35 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Version 3 included.
Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna
Bart
From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet!
From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Martin,
I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency
Would this work for all?
Bart
From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Bart,
Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning.
If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings.
Thanks
Martin
From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Martin,
See inserted comment on slide 6
Other suggestions included in the updated slides
From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Bart and thanks for doing this.
I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions:
Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.”
Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision)
Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama?
BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May.
Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June.
That’s it from me
Thanks
Martin
From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6
Thanks Bart
Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures
Elaine
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote:
Donna, all,
Please find included draft deck
Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30.
Most likely that will be short meeting
Kind regards,
BArt
From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6
Bart
Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO?
Thanks
Donna
From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6
Thanks Donna,
This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached.
For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors.
Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped!
I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments.
Thanks
Martin
From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6
Hi All
Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated.
I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support).
Thanks
Donna
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So is the Sheraton the plan? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2018, at 10:36 PM, Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> wrote: Fine by me! Martin Boyle Sent from my iPhone On 12 Mar 2018, at 22:26, Elaine Pruis <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> wrote: Is the Sheraton breakfast restaurant ok? On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> wrote: If it’s not too late i can do 8am tomorrow. Just let me know where. Donna Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> wrote: All, We suggest it to meet to identify the final steps to finalise the Initial report. Kind regards, Bart From: Maria Otanes <maria.otanes@icann.org<mailto:maria.otanes@icann.org>> Date: Monday 12 March 2018 at 11:31 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>, "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, all, Please let me know if you’re available tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday morning (8:00-9:00 am) for a CSC Review Team meeting. Thanks, Ria From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Martin Boyle via CSC-Review <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Reply-To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>, "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Joke, all, Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!). On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report. Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:35 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Version 3 included. Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: * Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” * Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” * Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) * Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” * Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? * Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). 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I’m at Laconcha Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2018, at 10:36 PM, Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> wrote: Fine by me! Martin Boyle Sent from my iPhone On 12 Mar 2018, at 22:26, Elaine Pruis <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> wrote: Is the Sheraton breakfast restaurant ok? On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> wrote: If it’s not too late i can do 8am tomorrow. Just let me know where. Donna Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> wrote: All, We suggest it to meet to identify the final steps to finalise the Initial report. Kind regards, Bart From: Maria Otanes <maria.otanes@icann.org<mailto:maria.otanes@icann.org>> Date: Monday 12 March 2018 at 11:31 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>, "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, all, Please let me know if you’re available tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday morning (8:00-9:00 am) for a CSC Review Team meeting. Thanks, Ria From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Martin Boyle via CSC-Review <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Reply-To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>, "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Joke, all, Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!). On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report. Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:35 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Version 3 included. Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: * Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” * Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” * Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) * Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” * Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? * Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). 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Good morning all, Elaine, Martin, please have breakfast and meet at the convention center, room 207, at 8:30am. Bart has met with Donna this morning. Thanks, Ria Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> wrote: I’m at Laconcha Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2018, at 10:36 PM, Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> wrote: Fine by me! Martin Boyle Sent from my iPhone On 12 Mar 2018, at 22:26, Elaine Pruis <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> wrote: Is the Sheraton breakfast restaurant ok? On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> wrote: If it’s not too late i can do 8am tomorrow. Just let me know where. Donna Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> wrote: All, We suggest it to meet to identify the final steps to finalise the Initial report. Kind regards, Bart From: Maria Otanes <maria.otanes@icann.org<mailto:maria.otanes@icann.org>> Date: Monday 12 March 2018 at 11:31 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>, "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, all, Please let me know if you’re available tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday morning (8:00-9:00 am) for a CSC Review Team meeting. Thanks, Ria From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Martin Boyle via CSC-Review <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Reply-To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>, "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Joke, all, Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!). On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report. Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:35 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Version 3 included. Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: * Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” * Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” * Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) * Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” * Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? * Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). 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I am only available Tuesday at 8am. Thanks Elaine On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:31 AM Maria Otanes <maria.otanes@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Martin, all,
Please let me know if you’re available tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday morning (8:00-9:00 am) for a CSC Review Team meeting.
Thanks,
Ria
*From: *CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Martin Boyle via CSC-Review <CSC-review@icann.org> *Reply-To: *Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> *Date: *Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM
*To: *Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com>
*Cc: *Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org>, "CSC-review@icann.org" < CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Bart, Joke, all,
Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!).
On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report.
Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication.
Thanks
Martin
*From:* Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> *Sent:* 11 March 2018 16:35 *To:* Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc:* CSC-review@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Version 3 included.
Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna
Bart
*From: *Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> *Date: *Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 *To: *Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc: *"CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet!
*From:* Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> *Sent:* 11 March 2018 16:03 *To:* Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc:* CSC-review@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Martin,
I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency
Would this work for all?
Bart
*From: *Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> *Date: *Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 *To: *Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc: *"CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Bart,
Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning.
If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings.
Thanks
Martin
*From:* Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> *Sent:* 11 March 2018 15:38 *To:* Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' < elainepruis@gmail.com> *Cc:* CSC-review@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Martin,
See inserted comment on slide 6
Other suggestions included in the updated slides
*From: *Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> *Date: *Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 *To: *'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com>, Bart Boswinkel < bart.boswinkel@icann.org> *Cc: *"CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *[Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set
Hi Bart and thanks for doing this.
I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions:
- Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” - Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive.
BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: *“**the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” *
- Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)?
BB Comment. Added (operational decision)
- Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” - Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? - Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama?
BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May.
Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June.
That’s it from me
Thanks
Martin
*From:* CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Elaine Pruis *Sent:* 11 March 2018 10:21 *To:* Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> *Cc:* CSC-review@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6
Thanks Bart
Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures
Elaine
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote:
Donna, all,
Please find included draft deck
Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30.
Most likely that will be short meeting
Kind regards,
BArt
*From: *CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org> *Reply-To: *"Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> *Date: *Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 *To: *"CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org> *Subject: *[CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6
Bart
Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO?
Thanks
Donna
*From:* Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM *To:* Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6
Thanks Donna,
This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached.
For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors.
Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped!
I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments.
Thanks
Martin
*From:* CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Austin, Donna via CSC-Review *Sent:* 07 March 2018 01:01 *To:* CSC-review@icann.org *Subject:* [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6
Hi All
Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated.
I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support).
Thanks
Donna
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I could do either, but would marginally prefer Tuesday. From: Maria Otanes <maria.otanes@icann.org> Sent: 12 March 2018 11:31 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org>; CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, all, Please let me know if you’re available tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday morning (8:00-9:00 am) for a CSC Review Team meeting. Thanks, Ria From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> > on behalf of Martin Boyle via CSC-Review <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Reply-To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> > Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> >, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org <mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> >, "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Joke, all, Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!). On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report. Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > Sent: 11 March 2018 16:35 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> >; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Version 3 included. Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> > Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> >, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> >; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> > Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> >, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> >; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> > Cc: CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> > Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com <mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com> >, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> > Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> " <CSC-review@icann.org <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> > Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: * Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” * Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” * Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) * Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” * Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? * Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel < <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Cc: <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel < <mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org> bart.boswinkel@icann.org> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" < <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" < <mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: " <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org" < <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto: <mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna < <mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review < <mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org> csc-review-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: <mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> CSC-review@icann.org Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). 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Hi Martin, We will have that slide deck ready for you during the PTI Session tomorrow. Thank you! Best regards Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ http://ccnso.icann.org From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com> Date: Monday, 12 March 2018 at 10:17 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org" <CSC-review@icann.org>, Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Joke, all, Not seeing any more comments on list, are we all happy with v3 of the slide set? If so, this will be the basis of the report to the ccNSO tomorrow (Joke, please note!). On the CSC session yesterday, I responded to questions on the RAP and service levels using slide 7. I gather that the service levels wording should have been forward to us: it should be with us shortly. This (and the RAP) should allow us to finalise the placeholder text in our draft report. Incidentally, is the CSC Charter Review Team going to be able to meet while we are still in San Juan? I think it would be useful to take an hour so that we have any remaining issues thrashed out and have agreed our roadmap to finalise the text for publication. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:35 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Version 3 included. Please note that at 5 today the CSC will start and first item will be progress RT to accommodate agenda Donna Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 16:05 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set That would be helpful: I’m willing to be convinced, but I ain’t there yet! From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 16:03 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, I was copying from the latest version Donna send. To leave room for maneuver for RT will adjust the language slightly by leaving out the frequency Would this work for all? Bart From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:58 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>>, 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart, Hmm: did I miss something: I do not recall us coming to such a stark conclusion and am not sure how appropriate this is as a recommendation. I certainly would prefer to it to be at request, but (as my earlier comments on the document suggested) could see value in specifying an annual meeting as a minimum based around budgets and operational planning. If we are recommending a number of meetings, we should explain why and we need to allow for requested meetings. Thanks Martin From: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Sent: 11 March 2018 15:38 To: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>>; 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Martin, See inserted comment on slide 6 Other suggestions included in the updated slides From: Martin Boyle <martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 15:09 To: 'Elaine Pruis' <elainepruis@gmail.com<mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Cc: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] [Retitled] Slide Set Hi Bart and thanks for doing this. I’m very happy with the slide set, but just a few minor suggestions: * Slide 2: “Does the Charter enable the CSC to fulfil…?” * Slide 6: I had not realised that we’d agreed to something as stark as requiring “at least 2 meetings per year between CSC and PTI Board.” This seems to me to be over-prescriptive. BB Comment. This is language as included in latest version: “the RT is recommending that the Charter include at least two meetings a year between the CSC and the PTI Board.” * Slide 6: “Frequency of CSC meetings determined by need over time”: is it worth adding that this is an operational decision for the CSC? Do we need to specify any safety-valve (how members might be able to request a call, for example)? BB Comment. Added (operational decision) * Slide 7: missing bracket in “agreed procedures ( Remedial Action Procedures” * Slide 8: might it be worth adding some explanation to “Create synergies” like coordinating the scope of the reviews? * Slide 9: [not for the slides, but to try and position the schedule] does this timescale end after Panama? BB Comment. Assuming the public comment start around 30 March, the public comment will take it to 11 May. Assuming 4 weeks to update and finalize that will take until 8 June. Panama meeting is 25- 28 June. That’s it from me Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Elaine Pruis Sent: 11 March 2018 10:21 To: Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Cc: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Bart Remedial Actin Procedures title should be Remedial Action Procedures Elaine On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> wrote: Donna, all, Please find included draft deck Please note you are also invited today at CSC meeting from 17.00-18.30. Most likely that will be short meeting Kind regards, BArt From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via CSC-Review" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> Date: Friday 9 March 2018 at 19:33 To: "CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>" <CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org>> Subject: [CSC-Review] FW: [EXTERNAL] RE: PLS READ: Version 6 Bart Is it possible for you to develop a deck of the key points contained in the attached so that this can be used for meetings with the RySG and ccNSO? Thanks Donna From: Martin Boyle [mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com<mailto:martin.boyle.hertford@ntlworld.com>] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 5:07 PM To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@team.neustar<mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Thanks Donna, This all looks quite satisfactory to me. I had a couple of additional comments and minor suggestions, which I have inserted in the clean copy, attached. For the table in section 6, I note that we still have item 5 as well as item 6, which cover the same ground. Under 14 right at the end of the proposed wording section I would suggest, “… at the request of either one or more members of the PTI Board or the CSC.” The reasons are that I think in this case it is the PTI (but transferable to a new operator) and I think we are probably particularly interested in the views of the independent directors. Number 20, “… by the members constituency (ie the RySG or the ccNSO).” Although I’m not really convinced we need to specify, so the wording in red (and the text it replaces) could be dropped! I note that my comments on numbers 7 and 12 about needing to provide text (and in 18, 23 & 24 also need some response to comments. Thanks Martin From: CSC-Review <csc-review-bounces@icann.org<mailto:csc-review-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Austin, Donna via CSC-Review Sent: 07 March 2018 01:01 To: CSC-review@icann.org<mailto:CSC-review@icann.org> Subject: [CSC-Review] PLS READ: Version 6 Hi All Sorry this is taking so long. I’m not quite there yet, but if I could ask if folks could review the document up to Section 6. Proposed Changes to the CSC Charter that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve attached a redline and a clean version (the clean version stops after the section on travel support). 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