Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday, 19 September 2016 at 21:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-19sep16-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-19sep16-en.mp3> <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-29aug16-en.mp3> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sept The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO: Annebeth Lange, .no Laura Watkins, .uk Mirjana Tasic, .rs Sebastien Pensis, .eu Timo Vohmar, .ee GNSO Carlos Raul Gutierrez, NPOC (co-Chair) Heather Forrest, IPC (co-Chair) Alexander Schubert, RySG Robin Gross, NCSG Griffin Barnett, IPC Maxim Alzoba, NTAG (GNSO) ALAC: Cheryl Langdon-Orr GAC: Milagros Castanon Seoane Additional Members: Jaap Akkerhuis ( ISO 3166 Expert) Apologies: Sanna Sahlman, .fi Susan Payne, IPC (GNSO) ICANN staff: Bart Boswinkel Steve Chan Emily Barabas Joke Braeken Michelle DeSmyter ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/Ux2sAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 19 September 2016: Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the CWG-UCTN call on Monday, 19 September 2016 at 21:00 UTC. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello All Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):can not use mic :( Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):audio testpositive Milagros Castanon:hello to every one Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):thanks to all Milagros Castanon:carlos can you hear me? Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):no Milagros, te vemos pero no te oimos..... Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):wow tow good friends ina row Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):my lucky day Milagros Castanon:no worries. I can hear you well. Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):hello to Rosalia Morales from nic.cr Rosalía Morales:Hola Carlos! Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):LAC is strongly represented today :) Rosalía Morales:Go LAC! Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):yes Emily Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):just a few minutes to get some excellnet Costa Rica coffee Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Carlos, it is unfair to talk about this kind of coffee Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair)::) we have a perfect sunny afternoon, with alot of volcano ashes in the air. Thats what makes the coffee so special...... Maxim Alzoba (FAITID)::) Bart Boswinkel:Hi All Annebeth Lange:Hello everyone Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):Happy to welcome Steve Chan and hoping he is back in good health!!!! Steve Chan:Thanks Carlos, I'm back and feeling good. Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):great Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):ok Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):lets go now Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Top of the hour Heather Forrest:good morning everyone Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):morning to you Heather Mirjana Tasic .rs:Hello everybody Alexander Schubert::-) Alexander Schubert:The gNSO PDP doesn't care about the scope of our group. They just care about new gTLDs. Alexander Schubert:zes Sebastien Pensis:Loud and Clear Alexander Schubert:hear me? Sebastien Pensis:You have gone away Annebeth Lange:No, Alexander, we do not hear you Annebeth Lange:Yes Bart Boswinkel:Alexander is that new hand Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):loud typing Bart Boswinkel:? Timo Võhmar:I cant see what is wrong on my side Alexander Schubert:I get feedback from many entties in gNSO and GAC that they are waiting for input from our CWG... Alexander Schubert:Timo: At the top of the application you see a phone icon -activate the mic! Annebeth Lange:Alexander, do they wait for material input from the CWG, how to resolve the differences? Alexander Schubert:Seems they generally are being told in some way that to avoid dublication of work they should not touch the topic..... Timo Võhmar:looks a bit better - thank you Alexander Robin Gross:I agree with Heather about us suggesting no harmonization. Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):no harmonization possible Robin Robin Gross:Agreed. Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):Danke Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yup indeed it was Heather Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):our Report can indeed contribute YES Laura Watkins:Is anyone else's audio dropping out? Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):no Laura Heather Forrest:Heather - not Annebeth Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and there is plenty for the Reserved names ST to get on with pre our Report Heather Forrest::) Timo Võhmar:i can hear you fine Timo Võhmar:ok, i put my comments here Timo Võhmar:sorry Alexander Schubert:Activate the micro atthe top fo the application - andu nmute! Heather Forrest:Another thing I didn't mention is a follow up on a concern raised by Annebeth in our last meeting about ccNSO not being comfortable to contribute to the PDP without some guidance and support Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):We *do* need to facilitate that where w csn Heather yes Heather Forrest:GNSO staff have a 'newcomers' webinar and I have discused this with staff to ensure that such a webinar could be run to assist ccNSO, ALAC, etc in participating in the PDP Timo Võhmar:it is my beliefe that the question about country codes and names can only be solved in well balanced cross community working groups. I do not believe gNSO PDP is what suits here. So lets list the flaws that did not allow this cwg to achieve its goals and propose to form a new and better one. Mirjana Tasic .rs:Annebeth point on different definitions between ccNso and GNSO is very inportant Alexander Schubert:In regard of the next round gNSO PDP the most (maybe only) issue is 2012 AGB § 2.2.1.4.1 Heather Forrest:I have a suggestion Alexander Schubert:Whereas our WG scope is MUCH broader! Rosalía Morales:I agree with Alexander and Timo Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):worth exploring that option Bart Alexander Schubert:AGREEMENT! Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):after all it is the comunity which is split in oppinion on how to treat 3 letter codes Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):OK with 1 and 3 Alexander Schubert:1 and 3 are fine - but the next round new gTLD planners should stop waiting for output from us.... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Good plan Heather Alexander Schubert:What we are doing is independent from the next round PDP..... Annebeth Lange:I agree on 1 and 3. I think that also coincides with the GAC advice in Helsinki Rosalía Morales:I also agree with 1 and 3 Laura Watkins:Sorry my connection dropped. I am back now but on chat only Alexander Schubert:Same happened here Annebeth Lange:Joke, could you make the script larger? Heather Forrest:I also suggest that we have a call that involves the Subsequent Procedures co-chairs and the co-chairs of the particular workstream dealing with geonames. There have been some comments made about their work that they would find helpful to hear and I think we would benefit from understanding their perspective on their own mandade Heather Forrest:mandate Heather Forrest:Annebeth - you can use the plus sign below the document to make it larger on your screen Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair)::) Annebeth Lange:Thanks, Heather Michelle DeSmyter:Also, to enable full screen mode, use the four arrows pointing outward on the gray bar at the top of your screen Annebeth Lange:OK, but then I cannot see the chat at the same time Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):you need a 27" screen annebeth Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):then you can see everything Annebeth Lange:Bart, what you have summarized of the "history" is very useful. Especially the evolution of the AGB. Annebeth Lange:I am working on my laptop from home, Carlos, it is 11.45 pm here! Annebeth Lange:Another interesting issue if you look at the evolution of the AGB - and the Reserved Naes WG - and our preliminary recommendation on the use of 2-letter strings - they all seem to have the same result. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):in the chat menu it is possible to choose chat sounds - so you need to look into chat only when something was added (you hear blip sound) Heather Forrest:This is an excellent record of our work - clear that we have done much more than we perhaps realised! I haven't had a chance to review comprehensively but will do so this week Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Indeed excellent Doc! Annebeth Lange:Bart there are still a lot of comments to this documents that haven't been sorted out, especially from page 17 onwards. How do we deal with it? I think the staff has done an excellent work here. Annebeth Lange:I agree with you, Carlos, an excellent document. Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):it is 1 year of work there Carlos Raul (GNSO Co-Chair):2 & 1/2 Annebeth Lange:I agree, Heather Robin Gross:Agreed. Heather Forrest:Let's see if we can agree on the progress report in our next call Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yes Heather good plaan Heather Forrest:the interim report is a much longer work that will undoubtedly need more time, so we should get started on our comments straight away but we certainly won't have this finalised in the next call Heather Forrest:Agree - one more call to finalise progress report and another call to agree on interim report. Ideally progress report should be published before Hyderabad for discussion within our chartering organisations and the interim report should be final discussions in Hyderabad Annebeth Lange:I agree Heather Forrest:Important that we make a big push here to get as much done before Hyderabad as possible Annebeth Lange:Thank you for good chairing, Carlos Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all Heather Forrest:Thank you everyone! Huge thanks to staff for work on the documents Alexander Schubert:tnx Rosalía Morales:bye all Sebastien Pensis:Thank you Robin Gross:Thanks, bye Timo Võhmar:bye Mirjana Tasic .rs:Bye