FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions
Hi all, Just published the "Call for Observers" on the ICANN announcements page in an effort to open the group and announce the upcoming call and meeting in LA. To view the original post, please see https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en Call for Observers to Join Cross Community Working Group to Develop an IANAStewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions <https://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300&winname=addthis&pub=ra-52fcc7eb 243d6d89&source=tbx32-300&lng=en-US&s=linkedin&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.o rg%2Fnews%2Fannouncement-2014-09-26-en&title=Call%20for%20Observers%20to%20J oin%20Cross%20Community%20Working%20Group%20to%20Develop%20an%20IANA%20Stewa rdship%20Transition%20Proposal%20on%20Naming%20Related%20Functions%20-%20ICA NN&ate=AT-ra-52fcc7eb243d6d89/-/-/5425a7f448860d94/2&frommenu=1&uid=5425a7f4 d02a0d74&ct=1&tt=0&captcha_provider=nucaptcha> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en#> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en#> <https://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300&winname=addthis&pub=ra-52fcc7eb2 43d6d89&source=tbx32-300&lng=en-US&s=sinaweibo&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.o rg%2Fnews%2Fannouncement-2014-09-26-en&title=Call%20for%20Observers%20to%20J oin%20Cross%20Community%20Working%20Group%20to%20Develop%20an%20IANA%20Stewa rdship%20Transition%20Proposal%20on%20Naming%20Related%20Functions%20-%20ICA NN&ate=AT-ra-52fcc7eb243d6d89/-/-/5425a7f448860d94/3&frommenu=1&uid=5425a7f4 b5a5d58b&ct=1&tt=0&captcha_provider=nucaptcha> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en#> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en#> In Brief The organizations that have adopted the charter for the Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions call for observers to join this effort. The primary goal of the CWG is to produce a consolidated transition proposal for the elements of the IANA Functions relating to the Domain NameSystem. Participating as observer Participation in the CWG is open to members and observers. In addition to members, who are appointed by the chartering organizations, anyone interested in the work of the CWG, can join as an observer. Observers are expected to actively participate and attend all meetings. The only difference between a member and an observer is that any consensus calls or formal decisions that may need to be made will be limited to CWG members appointed by the chartering organizations. However, this does not take away that it is the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants in mind as the importance of considering all input and views on this important topic is recognized. Observers may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group or organization not represented in the CWG or currently active within ICANN, or self-appointed. How to join If you are interested in joining, please contact Grace Abuhamad (grace.abuhamad@icann.org), or the secretariats of your Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee. All participants (members and observers) will be listed on the CWG's webpage. All observers are also required to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the procedures of their chartering organization, or where that is not applicable for observers, the GNSO Procedures should be followed (see https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg). Next steps The CWG is currently in formation. To date, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) have adopted the charter, and are in the process of appointing members. The CWG will have its first meeting <https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg> (via teleconference) on 6 October at 13.00 UTC, followed by a F2F meeting in Los Angeles during the ICANN meeting <http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-stewardship-naming> (scheduled for Monday 13 October from 12.15 13.45 local time (19.15 22.45 UTC), with remote participation). Both sessions will be recorded and transcribed. Background The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has requested that ICANN"convene a multistakeholder process to develop a plan to transition the U.S. government stewardship role" with regard to the IANA Functions and related root zone management. In making its announcement, the NTIA specified that the transition proposal must have broad community support and meet the following principles: * Support and enhance the multistakeholder model * Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS * Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and partners of the IANA services * Maintain the openness of the Internet. NTIA also specified that it would not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an intergovernmental organization solution. On June 6 ICANN proposed the creation of an IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) "responsible for preparing a transition proposal reflecting the differing needs of the various affected parties of the IANA functions." It was determined that Stewardship Transition proposals for each of the IANA functions should be developed by the directly affected communities, the IETF and IAB for IANA functions related to InternetProtocol Parameters; the NRO, the ASO, and the RIRs for functions related the management and distribution of numbering resources; and the GNSO and ccNSO for functions related to the Domain NameSystem. These efforts will inform the work of the ICG, whose responsibility is to develop an overall integrated transition proposal from these autonomously developed components. Two of IANA's global directly affected communities, the addressing and Internet protocol parameter communities, have responded to the NTIA's announcement and the formation of the ICG, by establishing working groups to provide input on their specific needs and expectations with respect to the IANAStewardship Transition. This CWG was formed as an integral part of this transition process, and to develop a proposal for the elements of the IANA Stewardship Transition that directly affect the naming community. Further Information * Charter of Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/iana-stewardship-naming-function-charter-14 aug14-en.pdf> [PDF, 277 KB] * CWG Wiki <https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg>
All, Turns out there is sensitivity to the terminology used i.e. members and observers is potentially alienating to some. How do others feel about "fixing" this at this stage i.e. changing to participants and members in order to remove the "observer" problem. Or do we simply aim to communicate as clearly as possible the following point: " . the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants . " Jonathan From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: 26 September 2014 18:58 To: cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions Hi all, Just published the "Call for Observers" on the ICANN announcements page in an effort to open the group and announce the upcoming call and meeting in LA. To view the original post, please see https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en Call for Observers to Join Cross Community Working Group to Develop an IANAStewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions In Brief The organizations that have adopted the charter for the Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions call for observers to join this effort. The primary goal of the CWG is to produce a consolidated transition proposal for the elements of the IANA Functions relating to the Domain NameSystem. Participating as observer Participation in the CWG is open to members and observers. In addition to members, who are appointed by the chartering organizations, anyone interested in the work of the CWG, can join as an observer. Observers are expected to actively participate and attend all meetings. The only difference between a member and an observer is that any consensus calls or formal decisions that may need to be made will be limited to CWG members appointed by the chartering organizations. However, this does not take away that it is the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants in mind as the importance of considering all input and views on this important topic is recognized. Observers may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group or organization not represented in the CWG or currently active within ICANN, or self-appointed. How to join If you are interested in joining, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org> grace.abuhamad@icann.org), or the secretariats of your Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee. All participants (members and observers) will be listed on the CWG's webpage. All observers are also required to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the procedures of their chartering organization, or where that is not applicable for observers, the GNSO Procedures should be followed (see <https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg> https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg). Next steps The CWG is currently in formation. To date, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) have adopted the charter, and are in the process of appointing members. The CWG will have its <https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg> first meeting (via teleconference) on 6 October at 13.00 UTC, followed by a <http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-stewardship-naming> F2F meeting in Los Angeles during the ICANN meeting (scheduled for Monday 13 October from 12.15 - 13.45 local time (19.15 - 22.45 UTC), with remote participation). Both sessions will be recorded and transcribed. Background The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has requested that ICANN"convene a multistakeholder process to develop a plan to transition the U.S. government stewardship role" with regard to the IANA Functions and related root zone management. In making its announcement, the NTIA specified that the transition proposal must have broad community support and meet the following principles: . Support and enhance the multistakeholder model . Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS . Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and partners of the IANA services . Maintain the openness of the Internet. NTIA also specified that it would not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an intergovernmental organization solution. On June 6 ICANN proposed the creation of an IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) "responsible for preparing a transition proposal reflecting the differing needs of the various affected parties of the IANA functions." It was determined that Stewardship Transition proposals for each of the IANA functions should be developed by the directly affected communities, the IETF and IAB for IANA functions related to InternetProtocol Parameters; the NRO, the ASO, and the RIRs for functions related the management and distribution of numbering resources; and the GNSO and ccNSO for functions related to the Domain NameSystem. These efforts will inform the work of the ICG, whose responsibility is to develop an overall integrated transition proposal from these autonomously developed components. Two of IANA's global directly affected communities, the addressing and Internet protocol parameter communities, have responded to the NTIA's announcement and the formation of the ICG, by establishing working groups to provide input on their specific needs and expectations with respect to the IANAStewardship Transition. This CWG was formed as an integral part of this transition process, and to develop a proposal for the elements of the IANA Stewardship Transition that directly affect the naming community. Further Information . <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/iana-stewardship-naming-function-charter-14 aug14-en.pdf> Charter of Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions [PDF, 277 KB] . <https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg> CWG Wiki
Wouldn't "member" imply participation? From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:11 AM To: 'Grace Abuhamad'; cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions All, Turns out there is sensitivity to the terminology used i.e. members and observers is potentially alienating to some. How do others feel about "fixing" this at this stage i.e. changing to participants and members in order to remove the "observer" problem. Or do we simply aim to communicate as clearly as possible the following point: " ... the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants ... " Jonathan From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: 26 September 2014 18:58 To: cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions Hi all, Just published the "Call for Observers" on the ICANN announcements page in an effort to open the group and announce the upcoming call and meeting in LA. To view the original post, please see https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en Call for Observers to Join Cross Community Working Group to Develop an IANAStewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions In Brief The organizations that have adopted the charter for the Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions call for observers to join this effort. The primary goal of the CWG is to produce a consolidated transition proposal for the elements of the IANA Functions relating to the Domain NameSystem. Participating as observer Participation in the CWG is open to members and observers. In addition to members, who are appointed by the chartering organizations, anyone interested in the work of the CWG, can join as an observer. Observers are expected to actively participate and attend all meetings. The only difference between a member and an observer is that any consensus calls or formal decisions that may need to be made will be limited to CWG members appointed by the chartering organizations. However, this does not take away that it is the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants in mind as the importance of considering all input and views on this important topic is recognized. Observers may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group or organization not represented in the CWG or currently active within ICANN, or self-appointed. How to join If you are interested in joining, please contact Grace Abuhamad (grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>), or the secretariats of your Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee. All participants (members and observers) will be listed on the CWG's webpage. All observers are also required to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the procedures of their chartering organization, or where that is not applicable for observers, the GNSO Procedures should be followed (see https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg). Next steps The CWG is currently in formation. To date, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) have adopted the charter, and are in the process of appointing members. The CWG will have its first meeting<https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg> (via teleconference) on 6 October at 13.00 UTC, followed by a F2F meeting in Los Angeles during the ICANN meeting<http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-stewardship-naming> (scheduled for Monday 13 October from 12.15 - 13.45 local time (19.15 - 22.45 UTC), with remote participation). Both sessions will be recorded and transcribed. Background The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has requested that ICANN"convene a multistakeholder process to develop a plan to transition the U.S. government stewardship role" with regard to the IANA Functions and related root zone management. In making its announcement, the NTIA specified that the transition proposal must have broad community support and meet the following principles: * Support and enhance the multistakeholder model * Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS * Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and partners of the IANA services * Maintain the openness of the Internet. NTIA also specified that it would not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an intergovernmental organization solution. On June 6 ICANN proposed the creation of an IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) "responsible for preparing a transition proposal reflecting the differing needs of the various affected parties of the IANA functions." It was determined that Stewardship Transition proposals for each of the IANA functions should be developed by the directly affected communities, the IETF and IAB for IANA functions related to InternetProtocol Parameters; the NRO, the ASO, and the RIRs for functions related the management and distribution of numbering resources; and the GNSO and ccNSO for functions related to the Domain NameSystem. These efforts will inform the work of the ICG, whose responsibility is to develop an overall integrated transition proposal from these autonomously developed components. Two of IANA's global directly affected communities, the addressing and Internet protocol parameter communities, have responded to the NTIA's announcement and the formation of the ICG, by establishing working groups to provide input on their specific needs and expectations with respect to the IANAStewardship Transition. This CWG was formed as an integral part of this transition process, and to develop a proposal for the elements of the IANA Stewardship Transition that directly affect the naming community. Further Information * Charter of Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions<http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/iana-stewardship-naming-function-charter-14a...> [PDF, 277 KB] * CWG Wiki<https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg>
I think we tried to be as inclusive as possible in our descriptions, it's just that observer implies to some that they are just that - passive. From: Reed, Daniel A [mailto:dan-reed@uiowa.edu] Sent: 29 September 2014 17:13 To: Jonathan Robinson; 'Grace Abuhamad'; cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org Subject: RE: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions Wouldn't "member" imply participation? From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:11 AM To: 'Grace Abuhamad'; cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions All, Turns out there is sensitivity to the terminology used i.e. members and observers is potentially alienating to some. How do others feel about "fixing" this at this stage i.e. changing to participants and members in order to remove the "observer" problem. Or do we simply aim to communicate as clearly as possible the following point: " . the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants . " Jonathan From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: 26 September 2014 18:58 To: cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions Hi all, Just published the "Call for Observers" on the ICANN announcements page in an effort to open the group and announce the upcoming call and meeting in LA. To view the original post, please see https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en Call for Observers to Join Cross Community Working Group to Develop an IANAStewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions In Brief The organizations that have adopted the charter for the Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions call for observers to join this effort. The primary goal of the CWG is to produce a consolidated transition proposal for the elements of the IANA Functions relating to the Domain NameSystem. Participating as observer Participation in the CWG is open to members and observers. In addition to members, who are appointed by the chartering organizations, anyone interested in the work of the CWG, can join as an observer. Observers are expected to actively participate and attend all meetings. The only difference between a member and an observer is that any consensus calls or formal decisions that may need to be made will be limited to CWG members appointed by the chartering organizations. However, this does not take away that it is the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants in mind as the importance of considering all input and views on this important topic is recognized. Observers may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group or organization not represented in the CWG or currently active within ICANN, or self-appointed. How to join If you are interested in joining, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org> grace.abuhamad@icann.org), or the secretariats of your Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee. All participants (members and observers) will be listed on the CWG's webpage. All observers are also required to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the procedures of their chartering organization, or where that is not applicable for observers, the GNSO Procedures should be followed (see <https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg> https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg). Next steps The CWG is currently in formation. To date, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) have adopted the charter, and are in the process of appointing members. The CWG will have its <https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg> first meeting (via teleconference) on 6 October at 13.00 UTC, followed by a <http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-stewardship-naming> F2F meeting in Los Angeles during the ICANN meeting (scheduled for Monday 13 October from 12.15 - 13.45 local time (19.15 - 22.45 UTC), with remote participation). Both sessions will be recorded and transcribed. Background The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has requested that ICANN"convene a multistakeholder process to develop a plan to transition the U.S. government stewardship role" with regard to the IANA Functions and related root zone management. In making its announcement, the NTIA specified that the transition proposal must have broad community support and meet the following principles: . Support and enhance the multistakeholder model . Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS . Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and partners of the IANA services . Maintain the openness of the Internet. NTIA also specified that it would not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an intergovernmental organization solution. On June 6 ICANN proposed the creation of an IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) "responsible for preparing a transition proposal reflecting the differing needs of the various affected parties of the IANA functions." It was determined that Stewardship Transition proposals for each of the IANA functions should be developed by the directly affected communities, the IETF and IAB for IANA functions related to InternetProtocol Parameters; the NRO, the ASO, and the RIRs for functions related the management and distribution of numbering resources; and the GNSO and ccNSO for functions related to the Domain NameSystem. These efforts will inform the work of the ICG, whose responsibility is to develop an overall integrated transition proposal from these autonomously developed components. Two of IANA's global directly affected communities, the addressing and Internet protocol parameter communities, have responded to the NTIA's announcement and the formation of the ICG, by establishing working groups to provide input on their specific needs and expectations with respect to the IANAStewardship Transition. This CWG was formed as an integral part of this transition process, and to develop a proposal for the elements of the IANA Stewardship Transition that directly affect the naming community. Further Information . <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/iana-stewardship-naming-function-charter-14 aug14-en.pdf> Charter of Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions [PDF, 277 KB] . <https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg> CWG Wiki
'Participant' may be more acceptable to some than 'observer' and I don't have any problem changing the term, but the bottom line is that there is still a difference when it comes to consensus calls that we need to communicate clearly. Whatever term we select, I think we should encourage everyone who wants to participate to try to do so via an existing organization (SO, AC, SG, C); of course, if we do that we need to make sure that SOs, ACs, SGs and Cs all allow that. If I understand correctly, I think the ccNSO has already dealt with that. But I not sure that the GNSO has via its SGs and Cs; if not, that should be done soon. Also, it would be helpful to provide other options such as via ISOC; what is the status of the communication with ISOC? The complicating issue of 'observer/participant' involvement when consensus calls are made is determining how to consider individual views versus the views of members who a representing a group. I think it is much easier to deal with that complication when everyone is participating via one of the SOs, ACs, SGs or Cs and potentially via ISOC if we gave ISOC special status in that regard; for the latter though, we would have to figure out how to avoid duplication because I think ISOC participants overlap with SO, AC, SG and C membership. Jonathan - I think it is very important for the GNSO firm up how we will allow for outsiders to participate via existing groups. Jonathan & Byron/Alan - I also think it is important that we finalize how any involvement from ISOC would be handled. Chuck From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:42 PM To: 'Reed, Daniel A'; 'Grace Abuhamad'; cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions I think we tried to be as inclusive as possible in our descriptions, it's just that observer implies to some that they are just that - passive. From: Reed, Daniel A [mailto:dan-reed@uiowa.edu]<mailto:[mailto:dan-reed@uiowa.edu]> Sent: 29 September 2014 17:13 To: Jonathan Robinson; 'Grace Abuhamad'; cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: RE: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions Wouldn't "member" imply participation? From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:11 AM To: 'Grace Abuhamad'; cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions All, Turns out there is sensitivity to the terminology used i.e. members and observers is potentially alienating to some. How do others feel about "fixing" this at this stage i.e. changing to participants and members in order to remove the "observer" problem. Or do we simply aim to communicate as clearly as possible the following point: " ... the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants ... " Jonathan From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: 26 September 2014 18:58 To: cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions Hi all, Just published the "Call for Observers" on the ICANN announcements page in an effort to open the group and announce the upcoming call and meeting in LA. To view the original post, please see https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en Call for Observers to Join Cross Community Working Group to Develop an IANAStewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions In Brief The organizations that have adopted the charter for the Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions call for observers to join this effort. The primary goal of the CWG is to produce a consolidated transition proposal for the elements of the IANA Functions relating to the Domain NameSystem. Participating as observer Participation in the CWG is open to members and observers. In addition to members, who are appointed by the chartering organizations, anyone interested in the work of the CWG, can join as an observer. Observers are expected to actively participate and attend all meetings. The only difference between a member and an observer is that any consensus calls or formal decisions that may need to be made will be limited to CWG members appointed by the chartering organizations. However, this does not take away that it is the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants in mind as the importance of considering all input and views on this important topic is recognized. Observers may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group or organization not represented in the CWG or currently active within ICANN, or self-appointed. How to join If you are interested in joining, please contact Grace Abuhamad (grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>), or the secretariats of your Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee. All participants (members and observers) will be listed on the CWG's webpage. All observers are also required to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the procedures of their chartering organization, or where that is not applicable for observers, the GNSO Procedures should be followed (see https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg). Next steps The CWG is currently in formation. To date, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) have adopted the charter, and are in the process of appointing members. The CWG will have its first meeting<https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg> (via teleconference) on 6 October at 13.00 UTC, followed by a F2F meeting in Los Angeles during the ICANN meeting<http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-stewardship-naming> (scheduled for Monday 13 October from 12.15 - 13.45 local time (19.15 - 22.45 UTC), with remote participation). Both sessions will be recorded and transcribed. Background The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has requested that ICANN"convene a multistakeholder process to develop a plan to transition the U.S. government stewardship role" with regard to the IANA Functions and related root zone management. In making its announcement, the NTIA specified that the transition proposal must have broad community support and meet the following principles: * Support and enhance the multistakeholder model * Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS * Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and partners of the IANA services * Maintain the openness of the Internet. NTIA also specified that it would not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an intergovernmental organization solution. On June 6 ICANN proposed the creation of an IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) "responsible for preparing a transition proposal reflecting the differing needs of the various affected parties of the IANA functions." It was determined that Stewardship Transition proposals for each of the IANA functions should be developed by the directly affected communities, the IETF and IAB for IANA functions related to InternetProtocol Parameters; the NRO, the ASO, and the RIRs for functions related the management and distribution of numbering resources; and the GNSO and ccNSO for functions related to the Domain NameSystem. These efforts will inform the work of the ICG, whose responsibility is to develop an overall integrated transition proposal from these autonomously developed components. Two of IANA's global directly affected communities, the addressing and Internet protocol parameter communities, have responded to the NTIA's announcement and the formation of the ICG, by establishing working groups to provide input on their specific needs and expectations with respect to the IANAStewardship Transition. This CWG was formed as an integral part of this transition process, and to develop a proposal for the elements of the IANA Stewardship Transition that directly affect the naming community. Further Information * Charter of Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions<http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/iana-stewardship-naming-function-charter-14a...> [PDF, 277 KB] * CWG Wiki<https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg>
Hi, I was just going to suggest this. I also just wrote a reponse to Ruchard's message in ICG Froum. http://forum.icann.org/lists/icg-forum/msg00011.html http://forum.icann.org/lists/icg-forum/msg00012.html Though Richard did not accept my answer. http://forum.icann.org/lists/icg-forum/msg00013.html I do recommend the change in any case. If somewhat we can cut the difference between consensus process and determining consensus as in making the consensus call, that might help too. avri ps. should we move this to the CWG list now that it has been setup? On 29-Sep-14 12:10, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
All,
Turns out there is sensitivity to the terminology used i.e. members and observers is potentially alienating to some.
How do others feel about "fixing" this at this stage i.e. changing to participants and members in order to remove the "observer" problem.
Or do we simply aim to communicate as clearly as possible the following point:
" . the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants . "
Jonathan
From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: 26 September 2014 18:58 To: cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions
Hi all,
Just published the "Call for Observers" on the ICANN announcements page in an effort to open the group and announce the upcoming call and meeting in LA.
To view the original post, please see https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en
Call for Observers to Join Cross Community Working Group to Develop an IANAStewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions
In Brief
The organizations that have adopted the charter for the Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions call for observers to join this effort. The primary goal of the CWG is to produce a consolidated transition proposal for the elements of the IANA Functions relating to the Domain NameSystem.
Participating as observer
Participation in the CWG is open to members and observers. In addition to members, who are appointed by the chartering organizations, anyone interested in the work of the CWG, can join as an observer. Observers are expected to actively participate and attend all meetings. The only difference between a member and an observer is that any consensus calls or formal decisions that may need to be made will be limited to CWG members appointed by the chartering organizations. However, this does not take away that it is the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants in mind as the importance of considering all input and views on this important topic is recognized. Observers may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group or organization not represented in the CWG or currently active within ICANN, or self-appointed.
How to join
If you are interested in joining, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org> grace.abuhamad@icann.org), or the secretariats of your Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee. All participants (members and observers) will be listed on the CWG's webpage. All observers are also required to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the procedures of their chartering organization, or where that is not applicable for observers, the GNSO Procedures should be followed (see <https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg> https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg).
Next steps
The CWG is currently in formation. To date, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) have adopted the charter, and are in the process of appointing members. The CWG will have its <https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg> first meeting (via teleconference) on 6 October at 13.00 UTC, followed by a <http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-stewardship-naming> F2F meeting in Los Angeles during the ICANN meeting (scheduled for Monday 13 October from 12.15 - 13.45 local time (19.15 - 22.45 UTC), with remote participation). Both sessions will be recorded and transcribed.
Background
The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has requested that ICANN"convene a multistakeholder process to develop a plan to transition the U.S. government stewardship role" with regard to the IANA Functions and related root zone management. In making its announcement, the NTIA specified that the transition proposal must have broad community support and meet the following principles:
. Support and enhance the multistakeholder model
. Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS
. Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and partners of the IANA services
. Maintain the openness of the Internet.
NTIA also specified that it would not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an intergovernmental organization solution.
On June 6 ICANN proposed the creation of an IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) "responsible for preparing a transition proposal reflecting the differing needs of the various affected parties of the IANA functions."
It was determined that Stewardship Transition proposals for each of the IANA functions should be developed by the directly affected communities, the IETF and IAB for IANA functions related to InternetProtocol Parameters; the NRO, the ASO, and the RIRs for functions related the management and distribution of numbering resources; and the GNSO and ccNSO for functions related to the Domain NameSystem. These efforts will inform the work of the ICG, whose responsibility is to develop an overall integrated transition proposal from these autonomously developed components.
Two of IANA's global directly affected communities, the addressing and Internet protocol parameter communities, have responded to the NTIA's announcement and the formation of the ICG, by establishing working groups to provide input on their specific needs and expectations with respect to the IANAStewardship Transition.
This CWG was formed as an integral part of this transition process, and to develop a proposal for the elements of the IANA Stewardship Transition that directly affect the naming community.
Further Information
. <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/iana-stewardship-naming-function-charter-14
aug14-en.pdf> Charter of Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an
IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions [PDF, 277 KB]
. <https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg> CWG Wiki
_______________________________________________ CWG-DT-Stewardship mailing list CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-dt-stewardship
I think Avri's responses to Richard Hill are quite helpful. Also I think she made a couple of useful suggestions: 1) " cut the difference between consensus process and determining consensus as in making the consensus call"; 2) " move this to the CWG list now that it has been setup ". Chuck -----Original Message----- From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:32 PM To: cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions Hi, I was just going to suggest this. I also just wrote a reponse to Ruchard's message in ICG Froum. http://forum.icann.org/lists/icg-forum/msg00011.html http://forum.icann.org/lists/icg-forum/msg00012.html Though Richard did not accept my answer. http://forum.icann.org/lists/icg-forum/msg00013.html I do recommend the change in any case. If somewhat we can cut the difference between consensus process and determining consensus as in making the consensus call, that might help too. avri ps. should we move this to the CWG list now that it has been setup? On 29-Sep-14 12:10, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
All,
Turns out there is sensitivity to the terminology used i.e. members and observers is potentially alienating to some.
How do others feel about "fixing" this at this stage i.e. changing to participants and members in order to remove the "observer" problem.
Or do we simply aim to communicate as clearly as possible the following point:
" . the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants . "
Jonathan
From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: 26 September 2014 18:58 To: cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions
Hi all,
Just published the "Call for Observers" on the ICANN announcements page in an effort to open the group and announce the upcoming call and meeting in LA.
To view the original post, please see https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en
Call for Observers to Join Cross Community Working Group to Develop an IANAStewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions
In Brief
The organizations that have adopted the charter for the Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions call for observers to join this effort. The primary goal of the CWG is to produce a consolidated transition proposal for the elements of the IANA Functions relating to the Domain NameSystem.
Participating as observer
Participation in the CWG is open to members and observers. In addition to members, who are appointed by the chartering organizations, anyone interested in the work of the CWG, can join as an observer. Observers are expected to actively participate and attend all meetings. The only difference between a member and an observer is that any consensus calls or formal decisions that may need to be made will be limited to CWG members appointed by the chartering organizations. However, this does not take away that it is the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants in mind as the importance of considering all input and views on this important topic is recognized. Observers may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group or organization not represented in the CWG or currently active within ICANN, or self-appointed.
How to join
If you are interested in joining, please contact Grace Abuhamad ( <mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org> grace.abuhamad@icann.org), or the secretariats of your Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee. All participants (members and observers) will be listed on the CWG's webpage. All observers are also required to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the procedures of their chartering organization, or where that is not applicable for observers, the GNSO Procedures should be followed (see <https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg> https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg).
Next steps
The CWG is currently in formation. To date, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) have adopted the charter, and are in the process of appointing members. The CWG will have its <https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg> first meeting (via teleconference) on 6 October at 13.00 UTC, followed by a <http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-stewardship-naming> F2F meeting in Los Angeles during the ICANN meeting (scheduled for Monday 13 October from 12.15 - 13.45 local time (19.15 - 22.45 UTC), with remote participation). Both sessions will be recorded and transcribed.
Background
The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has requested that ICANN"convene a multistakeholder process to develop a plan to transition the U.S. government stewardship role" with regard to the IANA Functions and related root zone management. In making its announcement, the NTIA specified that the transition proposal must have broad community support and meet the following principles:
. Support and enhance the multistakeholder model
. Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS
. Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and partners of the IANA services
. Maintain the openness of the Internet.
NTIA also specified that it would not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an intergovernmental organization solution.
On June 6 ICANN proposed the creation of an IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) "responsible for preparing a transition proposal reflecting the differing needs of the various affected parties of the IANA functions."
It was determined that Stewardship Transition proposals for each of the IANA functions should be developed by the directly affected communities, the IETF and IAB for IANA functions related to InternetProtocol Parameters; the NRO, the ASO, and the RIRs for functions related the management and distribution of numbering resources; and the GNSO and ccNSO for functions related to the Domain NameSystem. These efforts will inform the work of the ICG, whose responsibility is to develop an overall integrated transition proposal from these autonomously developed components.
Two of IANA's global directly affected communities, the addressing and Internet protocol parameter communities, have responded to the NTIA's announcement and the formation of the ICG, by establishing working groups to provide input on their specific needs and expectations with respect to the IANAStewardship Transition.
This CWG was formed as an integral part of this transition process, and to develop a proposal for the elements of the IANA Stewardship Transition that directly affect the naming community.
Further Information
. <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/iana-stewardship-naming-function-char ter-14
aug14-en.pdf> Charter of Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an
IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions [PDF, 277 KB]
. <https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg> CWG Wiki
_______________________________________________ CWG-DT-Stewardship mailing list CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-dt-stewardship
_______________________________________________ CWG-DT-Stewardship mailing list CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-dt-stewardship
I would have no difficulty to changing the terminology to 'members' and 'participants'. I would assume that this is something that the CWG could formally agree to at the first meeting. Allan From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson Sent: September-29-14 12:11 PM To: 'Grace Abuhamad'; cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions All, Turns out there is sensitivity to the terminology used i.e. members and observers is potentially alienating to some. How do others feel about "fixing" this at this stage i.e. changing to participants and members in order to remove the "observer" problem. Or do we simply aim to communicate as clearly as possible the following point: " ... the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants ... " Jonathan From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: 26 September 2014 18:58 To: cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] FW: Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related Functions Hi all, Just published the "Call for Observers" on the ICANN announcements page in an effort to open the group and announce the upcoming call and meeting in LA. To view the original post, please see https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en Call for Observers to Join Cross Community Working Group to Develop an IANAStewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions In Brief The organizations that have adopted the charter for the Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions call for observers to join this effort. The primary goal of the CWG is to produce a consolidated transition proposal for the elements of the IANA Functions relating to the Domain NameSystem. Participating as observer Participation in the CWG is open to members and observers. In addition to members, who are appointed by the chartering organizations, anyone interested in the work of the CWG, can join as an observer. Observers are expected to actively participate and attend all meetings. The only difference between a member and an observer is that any consensus calls or formal decisions that may need to be made will be limited to CWG members appointed by the chartering organizations. However, this does not take away that it is the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus support of all participants in mind as the importance of considering all input and views on this important topic is recognized. Observers may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group or organization not represented in the CWG or currently active within ICANN, or self-appointed. How to join If you are interested in joining, please contact Grace Abuhamad (grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>), or the secretariats of your Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee. All participants (members and observers) will be listed on the CWG's webpage. All observers are also required to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the procedures of their chartering organization, or where that is not applicable for observers, the GNSO Procedures should be followed (see https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg). Next steps The CWG is currently in formation. To date, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) have adopted the charter, and are in the process of appointing members. The CWG will have its first meeting<https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg> (via teleconference) on 6 October at 13.00 UTC, followed by a F2F meeting in Los Angeles during the ICANN meeting<http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-stewardship-naming> (scheduled for Monday 13 October from 12.15 - 13.45 local time (19.15 - 22.45 UTC), with remote participation). Both sessions will be recorded and transcribed. Background The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has requested that ICANN"convene a multistakeholder process to develop a plan to transition the U.S. government stewardship role" with regard to the IANA Functions and related root zone management. In making its announcement, the NTIA specified that the transition proposal must have broad community support and meet the following principles: * Support and enhance the multistakeholder model * Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS * Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and partners of the IANA services * Maintain the openness of the Internet. NTIA also specified that it would not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an intergovernmental organization solution. On June 6 ICANN proposed the creation of an IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) "responsible for preparing a transition proposal reflecting the differing needs of the various affected parties of the IANA functions." It was determined that Stewardship Transition proposals for each of the IANA functions should be developed by the directly affected communities, the IETF and IAB for IANA functions related to InternetProtocol Parameters; the NRO, the ASO, and the RIRs for functions related the management and distribution of numbering resources; and the GNSO and ccNSO for functions related to the Domain NameSystem. These efforts will inform the work of the ICG, whose responsibility is to develop an overall integrated transition proposal from these autonomously developed components. Two of IANA's global directly affected communities, the addressing and Internet protocol parameter communities, have responded to the NTIA's announcement and the formation of the ICG, by establishing working groups to provide input on their specific needs and expectations with respect to the IANAStewardship Transition. This CWG was formed as an integral part of this transition process, and to develop a proposal for the elements of the IANA Stewardship Transition that directly affect the naming community. Further Information * Charter of Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions<http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/iana-stewardship-naming-function-charter-14a...> [PDF, 277 KB] * CWG Wiki<https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg>
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Allan MacGillivray -
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Gomes, Chuck -
Grace Abuhamad -
Jonathan Robinson -
Reed, Daniel A