New subject: For your review - latest version of charter & notes from meeting

July 28, 2014

      I think the point about deliverables versus working process is apt.  Deliverables are the substance

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Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] For your review - latest version of charter & notes from meeting

Dear all,

Being unable to attend Monday's call, I provide you hereafter with my remarks on the Charter's last version/

·         The "Scope" part was modified according to our last call's discussion, but the "Problem Statement" and "Goals and Objectives" ones still present the CWG as a joint ccNSO-GNSO WG on the stewardship transition of IANA function related to naming services only.

·         Deliverables concerns substance, not process. The content of the "Deliverables" section should be under another section called "working methods" for example, while We should say what this CWG has to produce as substance (report about a transition plan, ...) with full details in the "deliverable" section

·         The definition of the consensus level should be in my opinion:

o   Full Consensus - a position where no minority disagrees; identified by an absence of objection

o   Consensus - a position where a small minority disagrees, but most agree

In the absence of full consensus, the chairs should ....

I would like to thank all those who proposed the modifications, especially Avri who captured very well the content of the discussion of last call.

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Hi all,

Attached are two latest versions of the charter. I removed Allan's notes as he requested. One version has redlined changes, the other is clean with just comments.

Talk to you all on Monday,

Grace

On 7/24/14 3:49 PM, "Allan MacGillivray" <allan.macgillivray@cira.ca<mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca>>

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At the IETF BoF meeting this morning in Toronto, the IETF agreed to
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establish a working group on IANA transition.  Alissa Cooper made a
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http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-ianaplan-1.pptx )
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which contains (page 11) a revised timeline for the ICG's work.  While
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it remains even 'draftier' than their charter, it nevertheless reflects
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some discussion that the ICG has apparently had since their meeting last week.
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You will  note that in this timeline, they are no longer seeking a
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submission from  each community by the end of the year, but rather by
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Feb. 2, just before ICANN Marrakech.  But the end date has been moved
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to June to reflect the likelihood that the NTIA will have to run its
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own domestic consultation process, which would likely include some form
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of US Congressional scrutiny.
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Marika - could I ask you to remove the notes from me in the next
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Thanks
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From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>
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[mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika
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Konings
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Sent: July-24-14 6:47 AM
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To: Avri Doria; cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org>
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Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] For your review - latest version of
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As the document still came up with the Academy WG name, I've taken the
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liberty to re-save the document under its original title, removed the
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comments that Chuck said could be removed and deleted the sentence 'and
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sub-working groups' to avoid any confusion over whether additional
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members would need to be appointed to sub-working groups. Please use
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Marika
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On 22/07/14 16:41, "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org<mailto:avri@acm.org>> wrote:
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On 22-Jul-14 09:40, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
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Avri - Your name for the file indicates that you may have been
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actually just fumble fingering where i do a 'save as' and accidentally
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i have attached a copy with the correct file name, just for filing sake.
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thanks for noticing.
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Avri - Your name for the file indicates that you may have been
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cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] For
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Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] For your review - latest version of charter & notes from meeting

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