Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording for the CWG Framework of Operating Principles call held on Tuesday, 10 May 2016 at 18:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-principles-10may16-en.mp3
On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may
The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/
Attendees:
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
John Berard - (Co-Chair)
Becky Burr - (Co-Chair)
Avri Doria
Jim Galvin
Alan Greenberg
Apologies:
Annebeth Lange
ICANN staff:
Mary Wong
Steve Chan
David Tait
Bart Boswinkel
Terri Agnew
** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Web page : http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/ccwg-framework.htm
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri Agnew
GNSO Secretariat
Adobe Chat Transcript for Tuesday, 10 May 2016
Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the Framework of Operating Principles Cross Community Working Group meeting on the 10th May 2016
john:sorry, hit enter too soon, Berard
john:say something so I can confirm i am connected
Terri Agnew:Hi John thank you for this, I will update the line name
Jim Galvin:Somebody is not on mute and is typing.
Mary Wong:Avri sent me an email saying she would be late due to another call.
Mary Wong:@Cheryl, sorry about the time - if it helps, it's 2 a.m. here in Singapore!
Mary Wong:CONGRATS BECKY!!!
Becky Burr:apologies, need to figure out how to turn the mic on. thanks everyone.
Terri Agnew:Becky, private AC chat you with directions how to activate
Steve Chan:I can see it as well
Jim Galvin:I do not see in the AdobeConnect but I do have a separate copy open locally.
Alan Greenberg:Not here!
Becky Burr:likewise, I don't see it in Adobe
Terri Agnew:you may need to update your Adobe connect plug in's with this link: http://tinyurl.com/icannactest Ensure all 3 steps pass. On the fourth step, install the add-on. This will run adobe connect outside of the web browser. Adobe connect prefers Firefox browser.
Jim Galvin:I now see it in Adobe.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Happy to reinforce the language.... I think it is a poivotsl point
Bart Boswinkel:This could also be re-inforced by combining this notion with stonger langauge around need for internal rules for a group to be agreed up before the actual work starts
Mary Wong:@Bart, yes, absolutely.
Mary Wong:In that regard, this group will also need to consider the feedback that seems to indicate little support for more formal operational rules n the Framework, but to include any such that are necessary in the Charter for the CCWG in question.
Bart Boswinkel:Yes, and their is a difernce between the CCWG and CWG
Terri Agnew:Welcome Avri
Avri Doria:thanks Terri, sorry i am late.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Perfect Mary Some can be To be used unless otherwise ... ... ... in the Charter etc.,
Becky Burr:I agree John - I don't feel the need to do that
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Agree Alan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):YES Jim thus our use of Principles nd Guidelines...
Bart Boswinkel:ORiginally when this group started there were two outstanding core principles for a CCWG: one charter explicitly adopted by two or more SO/AC
Bart Boswinkel: and the fumnal product wouldbe approved by the chartering organisations.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Future MAY bring new Interpretations of such Frameworks
Mary Wong:Some of the comments on implementatin are reflected starting at the bottom of Page 10 of he Tabular Summary.
Bart Boswinkel:It could be if charterd by the chartering organisations to do so
Bart Boswinkel:at the time of adoption of the recomendation
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I AGree with you Avri this is essential
Bart Boswinkel:AS AVRi says it couldbe part of the recommendations to the chartering organisations
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):The work from te Implementation WG was pretty clear on this John
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): AAnd in the current CWG/CCWG we have activly ensured tht we have close input from ley people from the WG's to work with Implementation
Mary Wong:An IRT can (should?) be separate from the CCWG; it's just composed partly of intersted CCWG memebrs. So a CCWG can (should?) be closed once its recommendations are completed/adopted.
Mary Wong:Note also the RySG comments that (per Cheryl) the recommendations on implementation from the Policy & Implementation WG may be worth considering.
John Berard:is there a term of art for a WG going into suspended animation?
Mary Wong:AFAIK, no
Alan Greenberg:It may choose to remain in place pending adoption by the Board and implementation.
Mary Wong:Not policy, at least, not policy that is within the remit of a SO :)
Bart Boswinkel:That assumes the chair and co-chair remain active
Bart Boswinkel:as soon as a wg clsoes they are in-active
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Fair point Bart... but then we ned to replace them with competant alterntes
Alan Greenberg:I have to drop off now. Good meeting.
Bart Boswinkel:Going back to Jim's point and the drift of John's argument
Mary Wong:Thanks Alan
Mary Wong:Sevearl commenters seemed to think we need more clarity..
Mary Wong:It looks like there will be a Helsinki session.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thanks everyone great progress ... good call ... Talk soon, catch up soon to plan for Helsinki. docs soon aafter some of you gather in Amsterdam please...
Jim Galvin:WHen will we meet again?
Jim Galvin:@mary thanks!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):YES do meeting in 14 days
Bart Boswinkel:9 pm
Mary Wong:It's 2 a.m. in Singapore an 4 a.m. in Sydney
Bart Boswinkel:that is fine
Mary Wong:For 1800 UTC
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):0400 is fine for me
Bart Boswinkel:21.UTC
Mary Wong:OK
Bart Boswinkel: is fine as well
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):HAPPY with 0400
Jim Galvin:I'm in no position to complain. Take it to the mailing list. :-)
Bart Boswinkel:Bye all
David Tait:Thanks all
Steve Chan:thanks all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye for now then Thanks John Becky et.al.