Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the CWG Framework of Operating Principles call held on Tuesday, 24 May 2016 at 18:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-principles-24may16-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr John Berard - (Co-Chair) Becky Burr - (Co-Chair) Jim Galvin Alan Greenberg Apologies: Annebeth Lange ICANN staff: Mary Wong Steve Chan David Tait Bart Boswinkel Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Web page : <http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/ccwg-framework.htm> http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/ccwg-framework.htm Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Tuesday, 24 May 2016 Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the Framework of Operating Principles Cross Community Working Group meeting on the 24th of May 2016 Terri Agnew:Member wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/qAfPAQ Becky Burr:john - i am having a bit of a fire drill here. Can you chair this as I need to be in and out Mary Wong:If we can circulate a draft Final Framework document to the WG by 7 or 8 June, we can have the WG meet again on 16 June. Bart Boswinkel:Id they refer to special budget requests? Mary Wong:@Bart, I think so - not a special process, but the normal SO/AC communty budget request Mary Wong:The problem there may be timing. Bart Boswinkel:yes it is called special budget request. However it is questionable whether appropropriate Steve Chan:@John, I was thinking of the special budget request that Bart mentioned Bart Boswinkel:appropriate Steve Chan:or the regular FY budgeting process if that's feasible (e.g., the CWG effort is known well in advance) Terri Agnew:Welcome Alan Greenberg Terri Agnew:Cheryl has rejoined on audio Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):the oporator hears me just fine!!!! Alan Greenberg:Srry for being late. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I am tlking Mary Wong:FWIW staff doew not recommend that our WG write or recommend a specific budget process for CCWGs. Mary Wong:Outside of the "normal" community budget request noted aboev, that is. Alan Greenberg:My audio is horrible. Dialing back in Alan Greenberg:back Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):it is evaluation, ongoing evaluation and management of such funding that the "new system" with Mx approaches Mary Wong:Note that the GNSO's F2F WG meetings take place in conjunction with (a day before or after) an ICANN meeting. Not intersessionally. Mary Wong:And not all WGs get a F2F meeting; it is a specific consieration/seleection made by the GNSO Council. Alan Greenberg:@Mary, presuming that such adjunct meetings are still allowed Mary Wong:@Alan, true - but at the moment the concern that has been raised in the GNSO is just in connection with Meeting B. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Alan the estemates . budgetry process we are working with the ICNN FINANCE SC on for the Accountability WS2 progrmme *does* include costs estimates right down to staff FTE commitments Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):disected by qtr! Alan Greenberg:Yes Cheryl, I am aware of that. But I think at the level of the WG, we need to differentiate between the two types of "extraordinary" expenditires. Alan Greenberg:As ALAC Chair, I have *NO* money that I can allocate to WGs. I think thatthe same is true for the GNSO and ccNSO. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):if activity in a CWG becomes a "cost' to an AC or SO that is another issue altogether Mary Wong:The GNSO WG Guidelines currently allow for the WG to request approval/funding for subject matter experts and briefings, on an as-needed basis. There is also the F2F one-day meetings that Alan is mentioning that are specifically approved by the GNSO Council for particular WGs at critical points in their deliberations (but limited funding goes to that because these have been "attached" to ICANN meetings to date). Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):ALAC does not have that srt of descretion Jim Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Alan has been fighting that battle for some tme recently Mary Wong:@Alan, the Chartering Orgs could always collaborate on a Community Budget Request for any particular Financial Year for a CCWG. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):issues will turn up oit of "budget Cycle" Mary Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):out of Mary Wong:@Cheryl, true, but then it may be for the COs to collaborate on any additional request out of cycle they believe a CCWG might need at that point. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and that should probably work along the same lnes as the *new* until now untied method of a collaborative approach with WG Leadership and key staff to wotk with ICANN Finance and or Board to do estimates and budgets Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and we could jusst reference that Mary Wong:@Cheryl, yes. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Bye for now then Bart Boswinkel:Bye all