+1

Please note there is no suggestion that ICANN is not respecting the position of
the "independent" ccTLDs and trying to use the IANA transition as a power grab -
if it were to (ab)use the transition, there would be opposition

Best

Paul

Quoting "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>:

> +1
>
> Chuck
>
> From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org
> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Burr, Becky
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 5:40 PM
> To: Erick Iriarte; Milton L Mueller
> Cc: CWG Stewardship
> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] authorization function for ccTLDs
>
> The ccNSO is the source of delegation/revocation policy, based on
> multistakeholder processes, consensus, etc.  That is very different from
> making a judgment in any particular case whether the policy is being applied
> properly.  There are also complicated national law and jurisdictional issues
> that arise in the ccTLD context.  As a ccTLD operator and a gTLD operator, I
> would want the right to challenge any revocation/redel decision on a case by
> case basis.
>
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> From: Erick Iriarte
> <eiriarte@iriartelaw.com<mailto:eiriarte@iriartelaw.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 12:12 PM
> To: Milton L Mueller <mueller@syr.edu<mailto:mueller@syr.edu>>
> Cc: CWG Stewardship
> <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] authorization function for ccTLDs
>
> Dear Milton
>
> almost is important to understand what is the basis of your comment, but is
> your decision share with us your opinion.
>
> Yours,
>
> Erick
>
> El 2/12/2014, a las 12:00, Milton L Mueller
> <mueller@syr.edu<mailto:mueller@syr.edu>> escribió:
>
> Desiree:
> So, according to you, the lawyer (counsel) who authorizes
> delegations/redelegations would be provided by the ccNSO? Or from some other
> "group of ccTLDs"? what if the ccNSO lawyer had one opinion and the lawyer
> provided by another group had a different opinion? Not criticizing, just
> trying to understand what is being proposed.
>
> Erick:
> My opinion of the legal status of a ccTLD is not relevant to answering those
> questions. I repeat:  I am not criticizing the proposal, I am just trying to
> understand what is being proposed.
>
>
> From: Desiree Miloshevic [mailto:dmiloshevic@afilias.info]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:51 AM
> To: Milton L Mueller
> Cc: CWG Stewardship
> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] authorization function for ccTLDs
>
> Milton
>
> Before you respond to Erick - I'll just say add that, for example, the ccNSO
> FOIWG worked on interpretation of RFC 1591 and other IANA related policy
> guidelines.
>
http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/foi-final-07oct14-en.pdf<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ccnso.icann.org_workinggroups_foi-2Dfinal-2D07oct14-2Den.pdf&d=AwMF-g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=zck_KKrcnUji57SgytbIp1pTarNrRaI-007tLxDDbv8&s=11OyJb_p43oaQCyz7z_kxCYM3eereRRP4QbpFHQRdHE&e=>
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> My understanding is that bodies like the ccNSO or group of ccTLDs are there
> to develop policies regarding the delegation and redelegation of ccTLDs.
> It's my personal view that it could potentially form such a council in future
> and give opinions. (independent of ICANN board).
>
> Desiree
> --
>
> On 2 Dec 2014, at 15:30, Erick Iriarte
> <eiriarte@iriartelaw.com<mailto:eiriarte@iriartelaw.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Milton
> to understand better your message and position: for you exactly what is the
> legal status of a cctld ?
> Erick
>
>
>
> El 2/12/2014, a las 10:16, Milton L Mueller
> <mueller@syr.edu<mailto:mueller@syr.edu>> escribió:
>
> I have some questions regarding this:
>
> "The CWG is considering replacing the authorization role, at least with
> regard to ccTLDs, with a written opinion from counsel (independent of ICANN)
> that each delegation and re-delegation request meets the policy requirements
> cited in the publicly posted reports."
>
> Where would this counsel come from?
> Whose counsel is it if it is independent of ICANN and ICANN is supplying the
> IANA service?
> Since most of the policy requirements related to ccTLD
> delegation/redelegation are not laws, but things like RFC 1591, on what basis
> is the counsel's opinion made? Precedent?
>
> Milton L. Mueller
> Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor
> Syracuse University School of Information Studies
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