Updated revision of the accountability dependencies
Hi, I have attached a snapshot of the Accountability dependency doc found at: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn8...> I have noticed a fair number of people checking it out, but very few making comments. This version is the result of Chuck's and my edits trying to make sure we captured issues that had been raised. It is only a snapshot revison as there is recognition that as we dig deeper in the proposed solution we may find other dependency issues. Want to make sure that those who will not or can not use Drive docs would still have a chance to view it before it was sent to CCWG-Accountability. I have attached several versions {docx, odt, pdf} I am in the Dulles airport for the next 5 hours on my way to Frankfurt for the CCWG meeting. I would like to send it out to them before I take off if at all possible. I would also make me feel more comfortable to have at least one of the co- chairs give leave to send this to CCWG before doing so, but given that it is the weekend and that the Accountability meeting is on Monday, am loathe to wait too long. the co-chairs, have incidentally had full edit access to the document, but they have not taken advantage, not that they needed to. I will add header and footer for proper presentation before sending it. Thanks. avri
Additional note: This is based on the contributions of Alan and Jonathan. Also only the docx version includes the comments and suggested text that was not added yet. Do not know why the PDF and ODT don't. probably some setting I haven't found yet. avri On 17-Jan-15 11:33, Avri Doria wrote:
Hi,
I have attached a snapshot of the Accountability dependency doc found at: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn8...>
I have noticed a fair number of people checking it out, but very few making comments. This version is the result of Chuck's and my edits trying to make sure we captured issues that had been raised. It is only a snapshot revison as there is recognition that as we dig deeper in the proposed solution we may find other dependency issues.
Want to make sure that those who will not or can not use Drive docs would still have a chance to view it before it was sent to CCWG-Accountability. I have attached several versions {docx, odt, pdf}
I am in the Dulles airport for the next 5 hours on my way to Frankfurt for the CCWG meeting. I would like to send it out to them before I take off if at all possible.
I would also make me feel more comfortable to have at least one of the co- chairs give leave to send this to CCWG before doing so, but given that it is the weekend and that the Accountability meeting is on Monday, am loathe to wait too long. the co-chairs, have incidentally had full edit access to the document, but they have not taken advantage, not that they needed to.
I will add header and footer for proper presentation before sending it.
Thanks.
avri
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Hi Avri, Thanks for this useful work. This is a great starter of a concrete discussion about the inter relation between CWG and CCWG I have provided several comments in the Google Docs to anticipate questions that the CCWG might have while reading it. This is in the hope to spare us some back and forth later. I think it will be quite important to demonstrate : - how these topics relate to IANA accountability issues on the one side (to provide the CCWG with context), - and why they could (or should) not be dealt with as IANA specific accountability mechanisms. I look forward to looking at this in more details in Frankfurt. Best Mathieu Le 17/01/2015 17:33, Avri Doria a écrit :
Hi,
I have attached a snapshot of the Accountability dependency doc found at: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn8...>
I have noticed a fair number of people checking it out, but very few making comments. This version is the result of Chuck's and my edits trying to make sure we captured issues that had been raised. It is only a snapshot revison as there is recognition that as we dig deeper in the proposed solution we may find other dependency issues.
Want to make sure that those who will not or can not use Drive docs would still have a chance to view it before it was sent to CCWG-Accountability. I have attached several versions {docx, odt, pdf}
I am in the Dulles airport for the next 5 hours on my way to Frankfurt for the CCWG meeting. I would like to send it out to them before I take off if at all possible.
I would also make me feel more comfortable to have at least one of the co- chairs give leave to send this to CCWG before doing so, but given that it is the weekend and that the Accountability meeting is on Monday, am loathe to wait too long. the co-chairs, have incidentally had full edit access to the document, but they have not taken advantage, not that they needed to.
I will add header and footer for proper presentation before sending it.
Thanks.
avri
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Thanks Avri, Chuck and others. I have provided some minor tweaks / edits. Avri, I suspect that you are now in Frankfurt. Please confirm as to whether or not this has been distributed to the CCWG? If not, I suggest we agree a deadline midday UTC today? And then Lise or myself transmit it to the ICG via the chairs. Alternatively, it can be transmitted via you (please remind me if you have a formal role of liaison between the groups?) Jonathan From: Mathieu Weill [mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr] Sent: 17 January 2015 20:22 To: Avri Doria Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org; Thomas Rickert Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated revision of the accountability dependencies Hi Avri, Thanks for this useful work. This is a great starter of a concrete discussion about the inter relation between CWG and CCWG I have provided several comments in the Google Docs to anticipate questions that the CCWG might have while reading it. This is in the hope to spare us some back and forth later. I think it will be quite important to demonstrate : - how these topics relate to IANA accountability issues on the one side (to provide the CCWG with context), - and why they could (or should) not be dealt with as IANA specific accountability mechanisms. I look forward to looking at this in more details in Frankfurt. Best Mathieu Le 17/01/2015 17:33, Avri Doria a écrit : Hi, I have attached a snapshot of the Accountability dependency doc found at: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn 8Pvc/edit?usp=sharing> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn 8Pvc/edit?usp=sharing> I have noticed a fair number of people checking it out, but very few making comments. This version is the result of Chuck's and my edits trying to make sure we captured issues that had been raised. It is only a snapshot revison as there is recognition that as we dig deeper in the proposed solution we may find other dependency issues. Want to make sure that those who will not or can not use Drive docs would still have a chance to view it before it was sent to CCWG-Accountability. I have attached several versions {docx, odt, pdf} I am in the Dulles airport for the next 5 hours on my way to Frankfurt for the CCWG meeting. I would like to send it out to them before I take off if at all possible. I would also make me feel more comfortable to have at least one of the co- chairs give leave to send this to CCWG before doing so, but given that it is the weekend and that the Accountability meeting is on Monday, am loathe to wait too long. the co-chairs, have incidentally had full edit access to the document, but they have not taken advantage, not that they needed to. I will add header and footer for proper presentation before sending it. Thanks. avri _______________________________________________ CWG-Stewardship mailing list CWG-Stewardship@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
I think this is ready to go. Nice work everyone. I assume that we could and would add to this list at a later time if needed. For example, depending on the legal advice we get, we may need the CCWG to deal further with certain separability accountability options such as the Golden Bylaw. Chuck From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 5:39 AM To: Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr; 'Avri Doria' Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org; 'Thomas Rickert' Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated revision of the accountability dependencies Thanks Avri, Chuck and others. I have provided some minor tweaks / edits. Avri, I suspect that you are now in Frankfurt. Please confirm as to whether or not this has been distributed to the CCWG? If not, I suggest we agree a deadline - midday UTC today? And then Lise or myself transmit it to the ICG via the chairs. Alternatively, it can be transmitted via you (please remind me if you have a "formal" role of liaison between the groups?) Jonathan From: Mathieu Weill [mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr]<mailto:[mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr]> Sent: 17 January 2015 20:22 To: Avri Doria Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>; Thomas Rickert Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated revision of the accountability dependencies Hi Avri, Thanks for this useful work. This is a great starter of a concrete discussion about the inter relation between CWG and CCWG I have provided several comments in the Google Docs to anticipate questions that the CCWG might have while reading it. This is in the hope to spare us some back and forth later. I think it will be quite important to demonstrate : - how these topics relate to IANA accountability issues on the one side (to provide the CCWG with context), - and why they could (or should) not be dealt with as IANA specific accountability mechanisms. I look forward to looking at this in more details in Frankfurt. Best Mathieu Le 17/01/2015 17:33, Avri Doria a écrit : Hi, I have attached a snapshot of the Accountability dependency doc found at: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn8Pvc/edit?usp=sharing><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn8Pvc/edit?usp=sharing> I have noticed a fair number of people checking it out, but very few making comments. This version is the result of Chuck's and my edits trying to make sure we captured issues that had been raised. It is only a snapshot revison as there is recognition that as we dig deeper in the proposed solution we may find other dependency issues. Want to make sure that those who will not or can not use Drive docs would still have a chance to view it before it was sent to CCWG-Accountability. I have attached several versions {docx, odt, pdf} I am in the Dulles airport for the next 5 hours on my way to Frankfurt for the CCWG meeting. I would like to send it out to them before I take off if at all possible. I would also make me feel more comfortable to have at least one of the co- chairs give leave to send this to CCWG before doing so, but given that it is the weekend and that the Accountability meeting is on Monday, am loathe to wait too long. the co-chairs, have incidentally had full edit access to the document, but they have not taken advantage, not that they needed to. I will add header and footer for proper presentation before sending it. Thanks. avri _______________________________________________ CWG-Stewardship mailing list CWG-Stewardship@icann.org<mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
Hi, I am in Frankfurt, and no, I have not distributed it yet. Took a nap instead. Matheiu's note through me for a loop as it required more writing so decdied to think about it on the flight. Decided that for now, it is is better explaining than trying to add to add a lot of text. This is just a draft. I think the point is that there is uncertainty about the solution path and that there is uncertainty as to whether the IAP is something that is common between ICANN accountability mechanisms or an free standing solution. I would be happy to deliver it as is. avri On 18-Jan-15 05:38, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
Thanks Avri, Chuck and others.
I have provided some minor tweaks / edits.
Avri, I suspect that you are now in Frankfurt. Please confirm as to whether or not this has been distributed to the CCWG?
If not, I suggest we agree a deadline – midday UTC today? And then Lise or myself transmit it to the ICG via the chairs.
Alternatively, it can be transmitted via you (please remind me if you have a “formal” role of liaison between the groups?)
Jonathan
*From:*Mathieu Weill [mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr] *Sent:* 17 January 2015 20:22 *To:* Avri Doria *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org; Thomas Rickert *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated revision of the accountability dependencies
Hi Avri,
Thanks for this useful work. This is a great starter of a concrete discussion about the inter relation between CWG and CCWG
I have provided several comments in the Google Docs to anticipate questions that the CCWG might have while reading it. This is in the hope to spare us some back and forth later.
I think it will be quite important to demonstrate : - how these topics relate to IANA accountability issues on the one side (to provide the CCWG with context), - and why they could (or should) not be dealt with as IANA specific accountability mechanisms.
I look forward to looking at this in more details in Frankfurt.
Best Mathieu
Le 17/01/2015 17:33, Avri Doria a écrit :
Hi,
I have attached a snapshot of the Accountability dependency doc found at: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn8...> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn8...>
I have noticed a fair number of people checking it out, but very few making comments. This version is the result of Chuck's and my edits trying to make sure we captured issues that had been raised. It is only a snapshot revison as there is recognition that as we dig deeper in the proposed solution we may find other dependency issues.
Want to make sure that those who will not or can not use Drive docs would still have a chance to view it before it was sent to CCWG-Accountability. I have attached several versions {docx, odt, pdf}
I am in the Dulles airport for the next 5 hours on my way to Frankfurt for the CCWG meeting. I would like to send it out to them before I take off if at all possible.
I would also make me feel more comfortable to have at least one of the co- chairs give leave to send this to CCWG before doing so, but given that it is the weekend and that the Accountability meeting is on Monday, am loathe to wait too long. the co-chairs, have incidentally had full edit access to the document, but they have not taken advantage, not that they needed to.
I will add header and footer for proper presentation before sending it.
Thanks.
avri
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Hi, Have gone through the note and - accepted all the changes made before this pass - made some changes to answer the comments. Figure I should sent it in real soon now. avri On 18-Jan-15 16:14, Avri Doria wrote:
Hi,
I am in Frankfurt, and no, I have not distributed it yet. Took a nap instead.
Matheiu's note through
sometime my typos embarrass me - threw me for a loop
me for a loop as it required more writing so decdied to think about it on the flight. Decided that for now, it is is better explaining than trying to add to add a lot of text. This is just a draft.
I think the point is that there is uncertainty about the solution path and that there is uncertainty as to whether the IAP is something that is common between ICANN accountability mechanisms or an free standing solution.
I would be happy to deliver it as is.
avri
On 18-Jan-15 05:38, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
Thanks Avri, Chuck and others.
I have provided some minor tweaks / edits.
Avri, I suspect that you are now in Frankfurt. Please confirm as to whether or not this has been distributed to the CCWG?
If not, I suggest we agree a deadline – midday UTC today? And then Lise or myself transmit it to the ICG via the chairs.
Alternatively, it can be transmitted via you (please remind me if you have a “formal” role of liaison between the groups?)
Jonathan
*From:*Mathieu Weill [mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr] *Sent:* 17 January 2015 20:22 *To:* Avri Doria *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org; Thomas Rickert *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated revision of the accountability dependencies
Hi Avri,
Thanks for this useful work. This is a great starter of a concrete discussion about the inter relation between CWG and CCWG
I have provided several comments in the Google Docs to anticipate questions that the CCWG might have while reading it. This is in the hope to spare us some back and forth later.
I think it will be quite important to demonstrate : - how these topics relate to IANA accountability issues on the one side (to provide the CCWG with context), - and why they could (or should) not be dealt with as IANA specific accountability mechanisms.
I look forward to looking at this in more details in Frankfurt.
Best Mathieu
Le 17/01/2015 17:33, Avri Doria a écrit :
Hi,
I have attached a snapshot of the Accountability dependency doc found at: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn8...> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c4Eab_fZMCQeeYvhy8OcE6f_PqhGza2qW4-UgFn8...>
I have noticed a fair number of people checking it out, but very few making comments. This version is the result of Chuck's and my edits trying to make sure we captured issues that had been raised. It is only a snapshot revison as there is recognition that as we dig deeper in the proposed solution we may find other dependency issues.
Want to make sure that those who will not or can not use Drive docs would still have a chance to view it before it was sent to CCWG-Accountability. I have attached several versions {docx, odt, pdf}
I am in the Dulles airport for the next 5 hours on my way to Frankfurt for the CCWG meeting. I would like to send it out to them before I take off if at all possible.
I would also make me feel more comfortable to have at least one of the co- chairs give leave to send this to CCWG before doing so, but given that it is the weekend and that the Accountability meeting is on Monday, am loathe to wait too long. the co-chairs, have incidentally had full edit access to the document, but they have not taken advantage, not that they needed to.
I will add header and footer for proper presentation before sending it.
Thanks.
avri
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Jonathan Robinson -
Mathieu Weill