All, Below are a set of notes that seek to capture the key points from the most recent call (25 Nov) on the IANA IPR that we had among the three operational communities i.e. Numbers, Protocols & CWG Chairs (see below for names of participants). Any questions/comments on discussions at the last call or how we are proceeding are welcome. At this stage, we are still discussing timelines and the framework of how we work together, in order to be able to coordinate and reach an overall agreement on the IPR principles and framework. Note: Numbers are suggesting we try to agree on the principles and framework before the submission of the ICG proposal to the NTIA, and complete implementation of the IPR before the transition. Once in the implementation phase, it is likely that the group who have been meeting will participate as observers to ensure that the implementation plan is consistent with the proposal. Currently, it is primarily about planning & co-ordination and the conversation is very respectful of the different operating communities positions and requirements but there is some sense of time pressure from the other two OCs. Thanks, Jonathan (who has not had the opportunity to run my covering note above by Lise) ---- IPR call among the three Operational Communities Wed 25th Nov UTC12:00-12:55 [Participants] Names : Jonathan Robinson, Lise Fuhr Numbers : Alan Barrett, Nurani Nimpuno, Paul Wilson, Izumi Okutani Protocols: Andrew Sullivan, Jari Arkko [Key Points] 1. Steps towards implementation: Suggested by Jari Arkko and supported by the participants * Work in two stages In first stage : to be driven between the 3 OCs to find an acceptable framework In second stage: the IPR matter is take to the OC and ICANN lawyers for an implementation that framework. * The implementation effort is not a place to rethink or renegotiate results of community or ICG proposals 2. Update from the CWG: DT-IPR Intellectual Property Rights https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/DT-IPR++Intellectual+P roperty+Rights * A team dedicated to discuss IPR implementation has been set up (lead by Greg Shatan) - The team does not make final decisions It is to make progress in considerations, to then be discussed and finalised in the CWG - There is strong recognition of a need to work in timely manner - Having additional members including IP and Trust expert(s) may be helpful but work is well underway * Draft on IPR considerations by the CWG IPR team is under development https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZGSlKj-JSXe4T0wWv-hN6srDVOwhRJvQZzRpkGAA Pk8/edit?usp=sharing * An additional issue which has not been raised: financing of the holder of the IPR - The entity holding the IPR will need some funds / funding in order to be able to properly hold and maintain the IPR - The IETF Trust will be able to accommodate financing, if the IETF Trust becomes the holder (Clarified by Jari) 3. Way Forward: * Key events to keep in mind towards implementation: - Submission of the proposal to the NTIA (although resolution of the IPR location is not a pre-requisite to submission) and - Expiry the IANA contract * Components to agree for 3 OCs to work together: - Timelines - Communication (information sharing of status) - Coordination (in discussing issues) * Need for stronger coordination among the three operational communities - An idea was shared to establish a way to coordinate among the three operational communities, in parallel to discussions in IPR Team in the CWG - An observation was made, that there is a room for leaders from the three communities to lead on setting the framework on how we work - More to be discussed at the future call * The three communities need to be in sync in the scope of work at each phase - Observations were made that there is no need for the IPR Team in the CWG to solve all details of implementation at this stage - The CWG DT to focus on high level principles and requirements. It is anticipated that this will help the three OCs to move forward constructively and converge. A CWG Co-Chair shared an observation this is a constructive way forward. 4. Suggestion: (Not discussed at the call) i. Arrange the next call in two weeks time - Will set up a doodle poll ii. By the next call, seek for feedback from each OCs: - Whether syncing key dates with work needed as below can be agreed [Milestones to target completion of work by three OCs] Stage one (agree on principles and framework): before the ICG & CCWG proposals submission to the NTIA (around Feb 2016) Stage two (complete implementation on IPR) : before the IANA contract expiry (Sep 2016) - CWG Chairs to share key points in the IPR discussions, on anything which needs coordination by the three OCs Invitation open to Greg Shatan as the Chair of DT-IPR iii. Move ahead with a Cross-OC group to make progress on this in a transparent and timely fashion - Discussions online before the call on how we start, and discuss at the next call