Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Dear all, Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638 Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE. STAY UPDATED. FOLLOW. ENGAGE. From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>, "iotf@icann.org" <iotf@icann.org> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”. I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638 Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE. STAY UPDATED. FOLLOW. ENGAGE. From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM To: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org>, "iotf@icann.org" <iotf@icann.org> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted? “Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President. Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] [2] Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.” Chuck From: iotf-bounces@icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM To: iotf@icann.org Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Dear all, Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process! --Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638 Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE. STAY UPDATED. FOLLOW. ENGAGE. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> Date: Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM To: <iotf@icann.org> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table Dear all, In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638 Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE. STAY UPDATED. FOLLOW. ENGAGE. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM To: <iotf@icann.org> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley Dear all, Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage. I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638 Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE. STAY UPDATED. FOLLOW. ENGAGE. From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> Organization: Afilias Reply-To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM To: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley All, The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself. Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible. 1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions 2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions 3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development 4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development 5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws Thank-you Lise & Jonathan I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays. for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc.
Hello, Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text. Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question. Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval." Regards On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final.
Thank you,
Grace
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*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *<iotf-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad < grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM *To: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>, "iotf@icann.org" < iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”.
I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM *To: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org>, "iotf@icann.org" < iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted?
“Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President.
Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] <#m_6812292797163057305__msocom_1> [2] <#m_6812292797163057305__msocom_2>
Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.”
Chuck
*From:* iotf-bounces@icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Grace Abuhamad *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM *To:* iotf@icann.org *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org *Subject:* [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Dear all,
Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process!
--Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table
Dear all,
In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE... .
I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
Dear all,
Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE....
Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage.
I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>*. **STAY UPDATED* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>*. * *FOLLOW* <https://twitter.com/icann>*. **ENGAGE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>*. *
*From: *<cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Organization: *Afilias *Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Date: *Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM *To: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *[CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
All,
The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself.
Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible.
1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions
2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions
3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development
4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development
5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws
Thank-you
Lise & Jonathan ------------------------------
I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays.
for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc.
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Seun, One thing I feel very strong about is that the PTI president should not be the chair of the PTI Board, not because the PTI president is not capable but rather because the PTI president will have a conflict of interest on most of the issues considered by the PTI board. The president will be needed on the PTI Board to provide facts about PTI services but should not be put in the awkward position of being PTI Board chair. Chuck From: Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 6:49 PM To: Grace Abuhamad Cc: Gomes, Chuck; iotf@icann.org; cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Hello, Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text. Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question. Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval." Regards On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> wrote: Dear all, Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>>, "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”. I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM To: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>>, "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted? “Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President. Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] [2] Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.” Chuck From: iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM To: iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org> Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Dear all, Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process! --Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table Dear all, In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley Dear all, Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage. I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> Organization: Afilias Reply-To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM To: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley All, The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself. Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible. 1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions 2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions 3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development 4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development 5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws Thank-you Lise & Jonathan ________________________________ I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays. for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc. _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 alt email: <http://goog_1872880453> seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng<mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!
Hi Chuck, Yes I am in full agreement with you on that, just like I stated in my previous mail that am fine with the other part of the response to that particular section which already has the text that excludes the President. I would even be fine if the president doesn't have voting rights in situations like this (assuming we have the president voting right at all) so that four members determine the Chair instead of five to even things out. Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 27 Jun 2016 04:19, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
Seun,
One thing I feel very strong about is that the PTI president should not be the chair of the PTI Board, not because the PTI president is not capable but rather because the PTI president will have a conflict of interest on most of the issues considered by the PTI board. The president will be needed on the PTI Board to provide facts about PTI services but should not be put in the awkward position of being PTI Board chair.
Chuck
*From:* Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com] *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2016 6:49 PM *To:* Grace Abuhamad *Cc:* Gomes, Chuck; iotf@icann.org; cwg-stewardship@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Hello,
Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text.
Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question.
Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval."
Regards
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *<iotf-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad < grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM *To: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>, "iotf@icann.org" < iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”.
I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM *To: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org>, "iotf@icann.org" < iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted?
“Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President.
Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] <#m_8812888004040176180_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_1> [2] <#m_8812888004040176180_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_2>
Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.”
Chuck
*From:* iotf-bounces@icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Grace Abuhamad *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM *To:* iotf@icann.org *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org *Subject:* [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Dear all,
Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process!
--Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table
Dear all,
In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE... .
I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
Dear all,
Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE....
Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage.
I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>*. **STAY UPDATED* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>*. * *FOLLOW* <https://twitter.com/icann>*. **ENGAGE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>*. *
*From: *<cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Organization: *Afilias *Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Date: *Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM *To: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *[CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
All,
The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself.
Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible.
1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions
2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions
3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development
4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development
5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws
Thank-you
Lise & Jonathan ------------------------------
I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays.
for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc.
_______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
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*Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: * *http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng> **Mobile: +2348035233535 <%2B2348035233535>* *alt email: <http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng <seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng>*
Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!
Dear Co-Chairs, May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list? Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text.
Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question.
Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval."
Regards
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *<iotf-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad < grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM *To: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>, "iotf@icann.org" < iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”.
I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM *To: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org>, "iotf@icann.org" < iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted?
“Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President.
Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] <#m_6070105227189766713_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_1> [2] <#m_6070105227189766713_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_2>
Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.”
Chuck
*From:* iotf-bounces@icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Grace Abuhamad *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM *To:* iotf@icann.org *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org *Subject:* [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Dear all,
Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process!
--Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table
Dear all,
In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE... .
I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
Dear all,
Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE....
Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage.
I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>*. **STAY UPDATED* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>*. * *FOLLOW* <https://twitter.com/icann>*. **ENGAGE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>*. *
*From: *<cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Organization: *Afilias *Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Date: *Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM *To: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *[CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
All,
The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself.
Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible.
1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions
2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions
3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development
4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development
5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws
Thank-you
Lise & Jonathan ------------------------------
I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays.
for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc.
_______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng> Mobile: +2348035233535**alt email: <http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng <seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng>*
Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!
_______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
To be clear I don't agree with the proposed change by Seun to 5.4 for the reasons that were fully discussed in the meeting in which we agreed the text. On Tuesday, 28 June 2016, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Co-Chairs,
May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list?
Regards
Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seun.ojedeji@gmail.com');>> wrote:
Hello,
Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text.
Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question.
Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval."
Regards
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad@icann.org');>> wrote:
Dear all,
Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final.
Thank you,
Grace
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*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
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*From: *<iotf-bounces@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf-bounces@icann.org');>> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad@icann.org');>> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM *To: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cgomes@verisign.com');>>, "iotf@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>" <iotf@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>" < cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>> *Subject: *Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”.
I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call.
Thank you,
Grace
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*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cgomes@verisign.com');>> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM *To: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad@icann.org');>>, " iotf@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>" < iotf@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>" < cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>> *Subject: *RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted?
“Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President.
Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] <#m_4235065022592513090_m_6070105227189766713_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_1> [2] <#m_4235065022592513090_m_6070105227189766713_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_2>
Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.”
Chuck
*From:* iotf-bounces@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf-bounces@icann.org');> [mailto: iotf-bounces@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf-bounces@icann.org');>] *On Behalf Of *Grace Abuhamad *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM *To:* iotf@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');> *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');> *Subject:* [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Dear all,
Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process!
--Grace
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*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad@icann.org');>> *Date: *Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>" < cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>> *Subject: *Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table
Dear all,
In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE... .
I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad@icann.org');>> *Date: *Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>" < cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>> *Subject: *Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
Dear all,
Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE....
Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage.
I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>*. **STAY UPDATED* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>*. * *FOLLOW* <https://twitter.com/icann>*. **ENGAGE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>*. *
*From: *<cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org');>> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jrobinson@afilias.info');>> *Organization: *Afilias *Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jrobinson@afilias.info');>> *Date: *Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM *To: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>" < cwg-stewardship@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>> *Subject: *[CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
All,
The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself.
Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible.
1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions
2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions
3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development
4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development
5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws
Thank-you
Lise & Jonathan ------------------------------
I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays.
for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc.
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Agree with Matt for the record. -J From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org<mailto:mshears@cdt.org>> Date: Tuesday 28 June 2016 at 09:34 To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> Cc: Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr@difo.dk<mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk>>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table To be clear I don't agree with the proposed change by Seun to 5.4 for the reasons that were fully discussed in the meeting in which we agreed the text. On Tuesday, 28 June 2016, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Co-Chairs, May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list? Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seun.ojedeji@gmail.com');>> wrote: Hello, Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text. Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question. Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval." Regards On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad@icann.org');>> wrote: Dear all, Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf-bounces@icann.org');>> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad@icann.org');>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cgomes@verisign.com');>>, "iotf@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>" <iotf@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”. I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cgomes@verisign.com');>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM To: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad@icann.org');>>, "iotf@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>" <iotf@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>> Subject: RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted? “Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President. Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] [2] Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.” Chuck From: iotf-bounces@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf-bounces@icann.org');> [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf-bounces@icann.org');>] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM To: iotf@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');> Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');> Subject: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Dear all, Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process! --Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad@icann.org');>> Date: Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>> Subject: Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table Dear all, In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','grace.abuhamad@icann.org');>> Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','iotf@icann.org');>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>> Subject: Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley Dear all, Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage. I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org');>> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jrobinson@afilias.info');>> Organization: Afilias Reply-To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jrobinson@afilias.info');>> Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM To: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');>> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley All, The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself. Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible. 1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions 2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions 3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development 4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development 5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws Thank-you Lise & Jonathan ________________________________ I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays. for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc. _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','IOTF@icann.org');> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 alt email:<http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng');> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action! _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','IOTF@icann.org');> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
Agree with Matt and James. Greg On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:42 AM, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
Agree with Matt for the record.
-J
From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Matthew Shears < mshears@cdt.org> Date: Tuesday 28 June 2016 at 09:34 To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> Cc: Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr@difo.dk>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" < cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
To be clear I don't agree with the proposed change by Seun to 5.4 for the reasons that were fully discussed in the meeting in which we agreed the text.
On Tuesday, 28 June 2016, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Co-Chairs,
May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list?
Regards
Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text.
Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question.
Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval."
Regards
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad < grace.abuhamad@icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final.
Thank you,
Grace
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Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *<iotf-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad < grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM *To: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>, "iotf@icann.org" < iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”.
I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call.
Thank you,
Grace
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*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM *To: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org>, "iotf@icann.org" < iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted?
“Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President.
Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] <#m_-5374238543218927457_m_4235065022592513090_m_6070105227189766713_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_1> [2] <#m_-5374238543218927457_m_4235065022592513090_m_6070105227189766713_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_2>
Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.”
Chuck
*From:* iotf-bounces@icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Grace Abuhamad *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM *To:* iotf@icann.org *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org *Subject:* [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Dear all,
Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process!
--Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table
Dear all,
In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE... .
I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
Dear all,
Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE....
Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage.
I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>*. **STAY UPDATED* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>*. * *FOLLOW* <https://twitter.com/icann>*. **ENGAGE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>*. *
*From: *<cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Organization: *Afilias *Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Date: *Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM *To: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *[CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
All,
The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself.
Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible.
1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions
2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions
3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development
4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development
5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws
Thank-you
Lise & Jonathan ------------------------------
I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays.
for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc.
_______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
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Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!
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Greg/James, Are you saying that you believe the chair must be one of the NomCom appointees? If so, what if neither of the non-Nom nominated directors is as qualified as one of the ICANN appointed directors (excluding he PTI President) or if the NomCom nominated directors are not able to commit the extra time needed to be chair? Why limit the possibilities? It seems to me that we would want the best qualified leader to serve as Board chair. I agree with Seun’s concern but I would be okay with language along this line: “The Board chair should be one of the NomCom appointees unless they are unable to serve in that capacity or if one of the other directors (excluding the President) are more qualified.” Chuck From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:07 AM To: James Gannon Cc: Lise Fuhr; cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Agee with Matt and James. Greg On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:42 AM, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> wrote: Agree with Matt for the record. -J From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org<mailto:mshears@cdt.org>> Date: Tuesday 28 June 2016 at 09:34 To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> Cc: Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr@difo.dk<mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk>>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table To be clear I don't agree with the proposed change by Seun to 5.4 for the reasons that were fully discussed in the meeting in which we agreed the text. On Tuesday, 28 June 2016, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Co-Chairs, May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list? Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text. Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question. Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval." Regards On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> wrote: Dear all, Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>>, "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”. I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM To: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>>, "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted? “Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President. Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] [2] Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.” Chuck From: iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM To: iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org> Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Dear all, Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process! --Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table Dear all, In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley Dear all, Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage. I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> Organization: Afilias Reply-To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM To: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley All, The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself. Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible. 1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions 2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions 3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development 4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development 5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws Thank-you Lise & Jonathan ________________________________ I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays. for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc. _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 alt email:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action! _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf _______________________________________________ CWG-Stewardship mailing list CWG-Stewardship@icann.org<mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship
I think I can live with that language you suggest Chuck. From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> Date: Tuesday 28 June 2016 at 16:38 To: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>>, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> Cc: Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr@difo.dk<mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk>>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Greg/James, Are you saying that you believe the chair must be one of the NomCom appointees? If so, what if neither of the non-Nom nominated directors is as qualified as one of the ICANN appointed directors (excluding he PTI President) or if the NomCom nominated directors are not able to commit the extra time needed to be chair? Why limit the possibilities? It seems to me that we would want the best qualified leader to serve as Board chair. I agree with Seun’s concern but I would be okay with language along this line: “The Board chair should be one of the NomCom appointees unless they are unable to serve in that capacity or if one of the other directors (excluding the President) are more qualified.” Chuck From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:07 AM To: James Gannon Cc: Lise Fuhr; cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Agee with Matt and James. Greg On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:42 AM, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> wrote: Agree with Matt for the record. -J From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org<mailto:mshears@cdt.org>> Date: Tuesday 28 June 2016 at 09:34 To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> Cc: Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr@difo.dk<mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk>>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table To be clear I don't agree with the proposed change by Seun to 5.4 for the reasons that were fully discussed in the meeting in which we agreed the text. On Tuesday, 28 June 2016, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Co-Chairs, May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list? Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text. Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question. Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval." Regards On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> wrote: Dear all, Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>>, "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”. I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM To: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>>, "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted? “Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President. Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] [2] Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.” Chuck From:iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM To: iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org> Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Dear all, Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process! --Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table Dear all, In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley Dear all, Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage. I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> Organization: Afilias Reply-To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM To: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley All, The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself. Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible. 1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions 2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions 3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development 4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development 5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws Thank-you Lise & Jonathan ________________________________ I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays. for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc. _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 alt email:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng<mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action! _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf _______________________________________________ CWG-Stewardship mailing list CWG-Stewardship@icann.org<mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship
Chuck, I agree with your reasoning and think your draft text would deliver your proposed objectives. Thanks Martin From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of James Gannon Sent: 28 June 2016 15:02 To: Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com>; Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> Cc: lisefuhrforwader <lise.fuhr@difo.dk>; cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table I think I can live with that language you suggest Chuck. From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> Date: Tuesday 28 June 2016 at 16:38 To: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>>, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> Cc: Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr@difo.dk<mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk>>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Greg/James, Are you saying that you believe the chair must be one of the NomCom appointees? If so, what if neither of the non-Nom nominated directors is as qualified as one of the ICANN appointed directors (excluding he PTI President) or if the NomCom nominated directors are not able to commit the extra time needed to be chair? Why limit the possibilities? It seems to me that we would want the best qualified leader to serve as Board chair. I agree with Seun’s concern but I would be okay with language along this line: “The Board chair should be one of the NomCom appointees unless they are unable to serve in that capacity or if one of the other directors (excluding the President) are more qualified.” Chuck From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shatan Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:07 AM To: James Gannon Cc: Lise Fuhr; cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Agee with Matt and James. Greg On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:42 AM, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>> wrote: Agree with Matt for the record. -J From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org<mailto:mshears@cdt.org>> Date: Tuesday 28 June 2016 at 09:34 To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> Cc: Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr@difo.dk<mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk>>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table To be clear I don't agree with the proposed change by Seun to 5.4 for the reasons that were fully discussed in the meeting in which we agreed the text. On Tuesday, 28 June 2016, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Co-Chairs, May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list? Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text. Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question. Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval." Regards On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> wrote: Dear all, Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>>, "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”. I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM To: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>>, "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted? “Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President. Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] [2] Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.” Chuck From:iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM To: iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org> Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Dear all, Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process! --Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table Dear all, In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley Dear all, Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage. I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> Organization: Afilias Reply-To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM To: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley All, The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself. Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible. 1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions 2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions 3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development 4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development 5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws Thank-you Lise & Jonathan ________________________________ I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays. for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc. _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 alt email:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng<mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action! _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf _______________________________________________ CWG-Stewardship mailing list CWG-Stewardship@icann.org<mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship
Dear Co-Chairs, all Apologies again for missing the last meeting but based on Matthew's comment, i have gone to look through the minutes/transcript and i indeed like to make a few note: 1. There were people on record who seem to have already raised my concern on 5.4 response 2. There were few who oppose it (and they happen to be same few opposing it on the list) 3. The rationale given by the Co-Chair(Jonathan) which is about the concern of the PTI president/manager becoming a co-chair is a valid one but not strong enough to restrict to nomcom appointee alone as that issue can be easily avoided by excluding the president from the chair election process. 4. The other rationale stated by the co-chair that our proposal required nomcom to the appointed chair can't seem to be found on the ICG combined proposal sent to the NTIA (did a quick check but will appreciate a pointer). 5. My comment on 5.4 is what is being contended and not that of 7.1 I don't think we should be creating this unnecessary lock-in at all as its not justifiable. The board elects her chair, and none of the chair election will be done without a vote in support from nomcom for the candidate (since its a total of 4 members excluding the president). If the board does not appreciate/like the approach of the chair, then there is the option to replace the chair by the board members, so i have no idea why we are creating this sectionalism within a board that should work as a team! I have posed to Greg/Matthew a few questions in other to understand their rationale but i didn't get any response which is not a good approach to deliberation at all. As minor as this issue may be, there is no reason why missing a meeting would imply one cannot raise a different view and the outcome of the meeting should not (hasn't been in the past) be the final view! FWIW, some of us have lived with lots of stuff in this process which makes me ask myself occasionally whether we are really ensuring balance of views across the chartering organizations. Looking forward to read from the Co-Chairs Regards On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Co-Chairs,
May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list?
Regards
Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text.
Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question.
Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval."
Regards
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org
wrote:
Dear all,
Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final.
Thank you,
Grace
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*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *<iotf-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad < grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM *To: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>, "iotf@icann.org" < iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”.
I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call.
Thank you,
Grace
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*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> *Date: *Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM *To: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org>, "iotf@icann.org" < iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted?
“Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President.
Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] <#m_2156757777003679649_m_6070105227189766713_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_1> [2] <#m_2156757777003679649_m_6070105227189766713_m_6812292797163057305__msocom_2>
Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.”
Chuck
*From:* iotf-bounces@icann.org [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Grace Abuhamad *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM *To:* iotf@icann.org *Cc:* cwg-stewardship@icann.org *Subject:* [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table
Dear all,
Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process!
--Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table
Dear all,
In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE... .
I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW <https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. *
*From: *Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org> *Date: *Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM *To: *<iotf@icann.org> *Cc: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
Dear all,
Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE....
Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage.
I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.
Thank you,
Grace
--
*Grace Abuhamad*
Manager, Public Policy
*ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers*
801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006
Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638
*Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? *
*LEARN MORE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>*. **STAY UPDATED* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>*. * *FOLLOW* <https://twitter.com/icann>*. **ENGAGE* <https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>*. *
*From: *<cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Organization: *Afilias *Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> *Date: *Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM *To: *"cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org> *Subject: *[CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley
All,
The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself.
Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible.
1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions
2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions
3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development
4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development
5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws
Thank-you
Lise & Jonathan ------------------------------
I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays.
for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc.
_______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
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*Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng> Mobile: +2348035233535**alt email: <http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng <seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng>*
Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!
_______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng> Mobile: +2348035233535**alt email: <http://goog_1872880453>seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng <seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng>* Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!
Dear Sean, Thank you for your email. We will get back to you but since we are busy at the ICANN meeting we haven't had the time to process the issues you raise. Best, Lise On 28 Jun 2016, at 10:38, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Co-Chairs, all Apologies again for missing the last meeting but based on Matthew's comment, i have gone to look through the minutes/transcript and i indeed like to make a few note: 1. There were people on record who seem to have already raised my concern on 5.4 response 2. There were few who oppose it (and they happen to be same few opposing it on the list) 3. The rationale given by the Co-Chair(Jonathan) which is about the concern of the PTI president/manager becoming a co-chair is a valid one but not strong enough to restrict to nomcom appointee alone as that issue can be easily avoided by excluding the president from the chair election process. 4. The other rationale stated by the co-chair that our proposal required nomcom to the appointed chair can't seem to be found on the ICG combined proposal sent to the NTIA (did a quick check but will appreciate a pointer). 5. My comment on 5.4 is what is being contended and not that of 7.1 I don't think we should be creating this unnecessary lock-in at all as its not justifiable. The board elects her chair, and none of the chair election will be done without a vote in support from nomcom for the candidate (since its a total of 4 members excluding the president). If the board does not appreciate/like the approach of the chair, then there is the option to replace the chair by the board members, so i have no idea why we are creating this sectionalism within a board that should work as a team! I have posed to Greg/Matthew a few questions in other to understand their rationale but i didn't get any response which is not a good approach to deliberation at all. As minor as this issue may be, there is no reason why missing a meeting would imply one cannot raise a different view and the outcome of the meeting should not (hasn't been in the past) be the final view! FWIW, some of us have lived with lots of stuff in this process which makes me ask myself occasionally whether we are really ensuring balance of views across the chartering organizations. Looking forward to read from the Co-Chairs Regards On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Co-Chairs, May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list? Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text. Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text: "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question. Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below: "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval." Regards On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> wrote: Dear all, Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>>, "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”. I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com<mailto:cgomes@verisign.com>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM To: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>>, "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted? “Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President. Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] [2] Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.” Chuck From: iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM To: iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org> Cc: cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org> Subject: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table Dear all, Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process! --Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table Dear all, In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM To: <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley Dear all, Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE.... Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage. I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws. Thank you, Grace -- Grace Abuhamad Manager, Public Policy ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? LEARN MORE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability>. STAY UPDATED<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#status>. FOLLOW<https://twitter.com/icann>. ENGAGE<https://www.icann.org/stewardship-accountability#involved>. From: <cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> Organization: Afilias Reply-To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info>> Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM To: "cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org>> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley All, The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself. Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible. 1. Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions 2. Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions 3. Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development 4. Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development 5. Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws Thank-you Lise & Jonathan ________________________________ I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays. for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc. _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 alt email: <http://goog_1872880453> seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng<mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action! _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 alt email: <http://goog_1872880453> seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng<mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action! _______________________________________________ CWG-Stewardship mailing list CWG-Stewardship@icann.org<mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship
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Gomes, Chuck -
Grace Abuhamad -
Greg Shatan -
James Gannon -
Lise Fuhr -
Martin Boyle -
Matthew Shears -
Seun Ojedeji