Dear All,

I would also like to summarize my contribution to the discussion in the call yesterday on various topics, for those who were not able to attend. And also share some additional suggestions for the Cyrillic GP members to consider.

1. The Generation Panel should focus on developing the proposal for its formation. This includes completing the following information (kindly refer to the proposal template for further details):

a. Scope of work – script, Unicode code point ranges, etc. based on MSR-1 (or MSR-2 if proposal is submitted after MSR-2 is released – expected in April)

b. Languages and Geographies covered. This should be a fairly comprehensive list of languages, along with their ISO codes and where they are spoken. The websites www.omniglot.com and www.ethnologue.com are excellent reference points for gathering such information. Organizing the languages in families or groups is a great idea. You can see Section 1.2, 1.3 and Appendix A of Arabic GP proposal to get an idea of how others have done it.

c. Description of members – most of this is already completed (a few members need to complete their information). However, this should not delay the proposal process, if those who have (almost) completed the information meet the general diversity requirements of such a panel. Please also note that there is a possibility of adding more members later on, in case additional people are interested in volunteering eventually. So current members is not a closed set.

d. Work Plan and timelines – this is currently unfinished and needs focus from all members. Regarding work plan, it is good to have details, but a high level plan should also suffice at this stage. It could include the following stages:

Formation Phase:

i. Proposal for forming the Generation Panel for Cyrillic

Analysis Phase:

ii. Analysis of code points for inclusion

iii. Analysis of variants within Cyrillic script

iv. Analysis of cross-script variants with Latin and Greek

v. Development of Whole Label Evaluation rules

Documentation Phase:

vi. Documentation of ii-v above

vii. Development of LGR in XML format

viii. Submission of proposal to ICANN

Finalization Phase:

ix. Release of Proposal by ICANN for public comment

x. Finalization of Proposal by Cyrillic GP based on public feedback

xi. Submission to Integration Panel for review

2. You may put additional data in the proposal, e.g. language tables, etc. However, if you put such data, which is essentially part of the Analysis phase, at this stage it only complicates and delays the development and evaluation process of this proposal. So the suggestion is avoid adding analysis in the proposal for formation and keep the proposal activity focused on the information requested – and leave the analysis to later stages.

3. Though it may be useful to document list of potential issues, it is not required for the proposal development stage. You could add such a list to the proposal but, again, its analysis is not required at this stage (to complete the proposal). That would be done in the analysis phase. Such a list would not be complete at this stage, before analysis is undertaken.

4. When you are planning the work, it would be useful if you plan sharing your results with community at the end of each analysis-step ii-v – This is not required by the process, but helps to ensure there are no surprises later when the proposal is released for public comments at stage ix.

5. For the characters of the language which are not encoded at this time, the Cyrillic GP proposal does not need to wait for them at this stage. Once those characters are encoded, and are stable across a few versions of Unicode, the Cyrillic GP can reconvene and add those letters (if needed) to the Cyrillic portion of LGR – after undergoing the same review process.

6. LGR for the Root Zone has to conservatively include the languages using Cyrillic script. The current recommendation from Integration Panel is that the languages should be in active use. They suggest using the EGIDS scale (https://www.ethnologue.com/about/language-status) and include languages which have a value of 0-4. However, the community can also consider additional languages, if a case can be made for their active use. The www.ethnologue.com website gives EGIDS scale of most languages (e.g. for Russian see http://www.ethnologue.com/language/rus. The “Language Status” says it is 1 (national)). However, this work should be taken up in the analysis phase.

Hope this is helpful. Please feel free to let me know if you have any queries.

Regards,
Sarmad

From: cyrillicgp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cyrillicgp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Dusan Stojicevic
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 1:03 AM
To: cyrillicgp@icann.org
Subject: Re: [Cyrillicgp] Proposal - table 3 and Part 1

Dear all,

My suggestion on the small regional groups (SG) raised again some questions.
Let me try here to give You concrete explanation of the idea, with names based on our proposal:

1. Balkan SG will cover Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Serbia, Bulgaria, part of Rusyn people

Mirjana Tasic

Adviser for Strategy and Development

Serbia

Serbian National Internet Domain Registry - RNIDS

native: Serbian

communication: English

Nelly Stoyanova

independent expert

Bulgaria

Native: Bulgarian, Communication: English

Dušan Stojičević

Chairman of the Managing Board

Serbia

Serbian National Internet Domain Registry - RNIDS

Native: Serbian

Communication: English

Daniel Kalchev

Bulgarian Registry

Bulgaria

Register.bg

native: Bulgarian, communication: English, Russian

Sanja Simonova

Macedonian Registry

Macedonia

Macedonian Academic And Research Network-MARnet

Iliya Bazlyankov

.САЙТ & .ОНЛАЙН gTLDs Registry

Bulgaria

CORE Association

Native: Bulgarian, Communication: English

Cyrillic script in Bosnia & Herzegovina is the same one like in Serbia (Serbian minority in BH use Cyrillic script).
Montenegro case was explained earlier, and I will try, personally, to invite someone from Montenegro to join our work.
Rusyn case was explained earlier.

With this list of members, we covered the whole Balkan area.
On the meeting today, 3 out of 6 was there. This was the number of active members for almost every meeting - Mirjana, Iliya, myself (and on the beginning Daniel).

How to became a member - You are already a member of one of the four defined groups.
How to organize the work in SG - it's not specified. If there is a need for SG to organize some meetings or similar things, we can use the list, private mails or organize some skype calls.
Maybe there is a need to name a leader of every SG, the one member who will send the results to the chair and organize the work inside the group.

I hope that this was helpful.

Regards,
Dusan

On 1.4.2015 15:47, Vladimir Shadrunov wrote:

Thanks everyone for the call today. There were some very good suggestions on the call on how to amend the Proposal document such as creating a comprehensive list of Cyrillic languages.

I've reviewed the draft Proposal once again and I think Table 3 that lists the characters used in different languages should be removed for the time being from the Proposal document. This is all good work and we should definitely use it at some later stage, but inclusion it here can actually delay ICANN's evaluation of the Proposal.

Further, I'm of two minds regarding the introductory part 1 (paragraphs 100 - 116). While it does contain interesting facts, I'm not yet sure if all of them are relevant enough for the purposes of this document. Would appreciate hearing others' point of view on this.

So my input as a summary:
- remove Table 3
- strip down introductory part 1

Thanks,
Vladimir
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