FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation
Dear all, On behalf of Bruce Tonkin, the designated facilitator for the ongoing discussions, please find attached: (1) an updated Problem Statement on IGO acronyms, based on the email discussions to date and including the suggestions made by Jon Passaro and Phil Corwin; (2) an updated Process Framework document, based on participants’ feedback and the call on Red Cross protections that took place this past Monday; and (3) an initial draft of the Briefing Paper on Red Cross protections – all for your review and this group’s continuing discussions. You can also find copies of all three documents on the Discussion Group wiki space: https://community.icann.org/x/hIPRAw. An updated Problem Statement on the topic of Red Cross protections (based on the Monday call), and an initial draft of a Briefing Paper on IGO acronyms, is being prepared and should be available for circulation very shortly. Thanks and cheers Mary and Olof (on behalf of Bruce)
Dear Mary, dear Olof, dear all, (1) Many thanks to Mr Tonkin and to ICANN Staff for circulating the various Briefing documents on the Red Cross and Red Crescent Protections. These will be very helpful in preparation for next Saturday's meeting and for achieving what, we hope, will provide a concrete outcome and resolution. On behalf of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Organisations, we are sharing herewith our comments on the Briefing Document circulated last Friday. We note that a new problem Statement has now been received, which we will also review. (2) Please note that the Agenda for ICANN 58 in Copenhagen, as posted on line, does not yet include a mention of Saturday's Working session on the Red Cross and Red Crescent protections. Also, if, as discussed during the recent telephone conference, a preparatory meeting is still envisaged on Friday afternoon, could you kindly confirm this as well. Looking forward to meeting you in Copenhagen and with kind regards, Stéphane Stéphane J. Hankins Legal adviser Cooperation and coordination within the Movement International Committee of the Red Cross Tel (direct line): ++0041 22 730 24 19 From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> To: "discussion-igo-rc@icann.org" <discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> Date: 03.03.2017 05:34 Subject: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Sent by: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org Dear all, On behalf of Bruce Tonkin, the designated facilitator for the ongoing discussions, please find attached: (1) an updated Problem Statement on IGO acronyms, based on the email discussions to date and including the suggestions made by Jon Passaro and Phil Corwin; (2) an updated Process Framework document, based on participants? feedback and the call on Red Cross protections that took place this past Monday; and (3) an initial draft of the Briefing Paper on Red Cross protections ? all for your review and this group?s continuing discussions. You can also find copies of all three documents on the Discussion Group wiki space: https://community.icann.org/x/hIPRAw. An updated Problem Statement on the topic of Red Cross protections (based on the Monday call), and an initial draft of a Briefing Paper on IGO acronyms, is being prepared and should be available for circulation very shortly. Thanks and cheers Mary and Olof (on behalf of Bruce)[attachment "IGO Problem Statement - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] [attachment "Outline of Proposed Process for Facilitated GAC-GNSO Dialogue on IGO Red Cross Protections - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] [attachment "Briefing Document - Red Cross - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] _______________________________________________ Discussion-igo-rc mailing list Discussion-igo-rc@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion-igo-rc =============================================================================== The ICRC - working to protect and assist people affected by armed conflict and other situations of violence. Find out more: www.icrc.org This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s) only. Its contents are confidential and may only be retained by the named recipient (s) and may only be copied or disclosed with the consent of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). If you are not an intended recipient please delete this e-mail and notify the sender. ===============================================================================
Thank you very much for the suggested edits, Stephane and Charlotte. For everyone’s easy reference, staff has uploaded the document with your suggestions and comments to the Discussion Group wiki space, along with all other briefing materials and documents circulated previously: https://community.icann.org/x/hIPRAw. We have noted that the Saturday morning session on Red Cross protections (08.30 – 10.00 Copenhagen time) does not yet appear on the published meeting schedule but we have been informed that this is in process. We will follow up to make sure this action is completed. Thanks and cheers Mary From: Stephane Hankins <shankins@icrc.org> Date: Monday, March 6, 2017 at 09:19 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>, "discussion-igo-rc@icann.org" <discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> Cc: Charlotte Lindsey Curtet <clindsey@icrc.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Dear Mary, dear Olof, dear all, (1) Many thanks to Mr Tonkin and to ICANN Staff for circulating the various Briefing documents on the Red Cross and Red Crescent Protections. These will be very helpful in preparation for next Saturday's meeting and for achieving what, we hope, will provide a concrete outcome and resolution. On behalf of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Organisations, we are sharing herewith our comments on the Briefing Document circulated last Friday. We note that a new problem Statement has now been received, which we will also review. (2) Please note that the Agenda for ICANN 58 in Copenhagen, as posted on line, does not yet include a mention of Saturday's Working session on the Red Cross and Red Crescent protections. Also, if, as discussed during the recent telephone conference, a preparatory meeting is still envisaged on Friday afternoon, could you kindly confirm this as well. Looking forward to meeting you in Copenhagen and with kind regards, Stéphane Stéphane J. Hankins Legal adviser Cooperation and coordination within the Movement International Committee of the Red Cross Tel (direct line): ++0041 22 730 24 19 From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> To: "discussion-igo-rc@icann.org" <discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> Date: 03.03.2017 05:34 Subject: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Sent by: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org ________________________________ Dear all, On behalf of Bruce Tonkin, the designated facilitator for the ongoing discussions, please find attached: (1) an updated Problem Statement on IGO acronyms, based on the email discussions to date and including the suggestions made by Jon Passaro and Phil Corwin; (2) an updated Process Framework document, based on participants’ feedback and the call on Red Cross protections that took place this past Monday; and (3) an initial draft of the Briefing Paper on Red Cross protections – all for your review and this group’s continuing discussions. You can also find copies of all three documents on the Discussion Group wiki space: https://community.icann.org/x/hIPRAw[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_hIPRAw&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WUxeHgGORzpSZmKvwQCu2Z6CMi4VHFi9PA1DG0ckt7E&s=jdU2f8KN3C16u_6CBBSgPwPxhcbmCyEGVRZdI6VAayI&e=>. An updated Problem Statement on the topic of Red Cross protections (based on the Monday call), and an initial draft of a Briefing Paper on IGO acronyms, is being prepared and should be available for circulation very shortly. Thanks and cheers Mary and Olof (on behalf of Bruce)[attachment "IGO Problem Statement - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] [attachment "Outline of Proposed Process for Facilitated GAC-GNSO Dialogue on IGO Red Cross Protections - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] [attachment "Briefing Document - Red Cross - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] _______________________________________________ Discussion-igo-rc mailing list Discussion-igo-rc@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion-igo-rc =============================================================================== The ICRC - working to protect and assist people affected by armed conflict and other situations of violence. Find out more: www.icrc.org This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s) only. Its contents are confidential and may only be retained by the named recipient (s) and may only be copied or disclosed with the consent of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). If you are not an intended recipient please delete this e-mail and notify the sender. ===============================================================================
Mary, all Is it possible to incorporate in the briefing document the rationale for the PDP WG’s recommendations as they relate to Red Cross names? I think it is important for us to understand the distinction made by the PDP WG between Scope 1 and Scope 2 Identifiers and why they were treated differently. The Briefing note currently states, among other things: November 2013: The GNSO Council adopts<https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#20131120-2> the consensus recommendations contained in the Final Report of the PDP Working Group[1], including protections at the top and second level for certain Red Cross and Red Crescent names and acronyms (notably for the designations “Red Cross”, “Red Crescent”, “Red Crystal” and “Red Lion and Sun”), but excluding the protections and reservations called for, in accordance with the GAC’s advice, for - the names of the then-189 National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (in English and in the official languages of their respective States of origin; - the names of the two international organizations of the Movement (in the 6 UN languages) and their usual acronyms. The ICRC and the International Federation present a Minority Position Statement that is annexed to the GNSO’s Final Report.[2] In my view we need more information regarding the rationale for the PDP WG recommendations. Thanks Donna From: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org [mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Hankins Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 6:20 AM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>; discussion-igo-rc@icann.org Subject: Re: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Dear Mary, dear Olof, dear all, (1) Many thanks to Mr Tonkin and to ICANN Staff for circulating the various Briefing documents on the Red Cross and Red Crescent Protections. These will be very helpful in preparation for next Saturday's meeting and for achieving what, we hope, will provide a concrete outcome and resolution. On behalf of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Organisations, we are sharing herewith our comments on the Briefing Document circulated last Friday. We note that a new problem Statement has now been received, which we will also review. (2) Please note that the Agenda for ICANN 58 in Copenhagen, as posted on line, does not yet include a mention of Saturday's Working session on the Red Cross and Red Crescent protections. Also, if, as discussed during the recent telephone conference, a preparatory meeting is still envisaged on Friday afternoon, could you kindly confirm this as well. Looking forward to meeting you in Copenhagen and with kind regards, Stéphane Stéphane J. Hankins Legal adviser Cooperation and coordination within the Movement International Committee of the Red Cross Tel (direct line): ++0041 22 730 24 19 From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> To: "discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>" <discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>> Date: 03.03.2017 05:34 Subject: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Sent by: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org> ________________________________ Dear all, On behalf of Bruce Tonkin, the designated facilitator for the ongoing discussions, please find attached: (1) an updated Problem Statement on IGO acronyms, based on the email discussions to date and including the suggestions made by Jon Passaro and Phil Corwin; (2) an updated Process Framework document, based on participants’ feedback and the call on Red Cross protections that took place this past Monday; and (3) an initial draft of the Briefing Paper on Red Cross protections – all for your review and this group’s continuing discussions. You can also find copies of all three documents on the Discussion Group wiki space: https://community.icann.org/x/hIPRAw<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_hIPRAw&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=UvDJz3fKGFmm-w5KB6m9rZduw-JnmTg3HgovPugQJYU&s=EcjfUuc33XFkwMhFY7pq9li58Ofh5R544czZdiPcwLU&e=>. An updated Problem Statement on the topic of Red Cross protections (based on the Monday call), and an initial draft of a Briefing Paper on IGO acronyms, is being prepared and should be available for circulation very shortly. Thanks and cheers Mary and Olof (on behalf of Bruce)[attachment "IGO Problem Statement - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] [attachment "Outline of Proposed Process for Facilitated GAC-GNSO Dialogue on IGO Red Cross Protections - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] [attachment "Briefing Document - Red Cross - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] _______________________________________________ Discussion-igo-rc mailing list Discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:Discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion-igo-rc<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_discussion-2Digo-2Drc&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=UvDJz3fKGFmm-w5KB6m9rZduw-JnmTg3HgovPugQJYU&s=a1itsE__ez6J7fZF9DpnhkM0_VGbF2fWGpG9l2LZHhA&e=> =============================================================================== The ICRC - working to protect and assist people affected by armed conflict and other situations of violence. Find out more: www.icrc.org<http://www.icrc.org> This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s) only. Its contents are confidential and may only be retained by the named recipient (s) and may only be copied or disclosed with the consent of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). If you are not an intended recipient please delete this e-mail and notify the sender. =============================================================================== ________________________________ [1] See the Final Report from the PDP Working Group (November 2013), e.g. at p. 11: https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/igo-ingo-final-10nov13-en.pdf. [2] Accessible at https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/igo-ingo-final-minority-positions-10nov13-e.... Reference should also be made to the Public Comment submitted by the legal advisers of over 60 National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies to the ICANN community on the Initial Report on the Protection of IGO and INGO Identifiers in all gTLDs (dated 4 July 2013). (accessible at: https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-igo-ingo-initial-14jun13/msg00000.htm...)
Hello Donna, Are you able to draft a suitable paragraph? The aim here is to be brief and to the point to allow those that are not experts on the issue to read while they are travelling to the event. Regards, Bruce Tonkin From: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org [mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Austin, Donna Sent: Tuesday, 7 March 2017 10:12 AM To: Stephane Hankins <shankins@icrc.org>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>; discussion-igo-rc@icann.org Subject: Re: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Mary, all Is it possible to incorporate in the briefing document the rationale for the PDP WG’s recommendations as they relate to Red Cross names? I think it is important for us to understand the distinction made by the PDP WG between Scope 1 and Scope 2 Identifiers and why they were treated differently. The Briefing note currently states, among other things: November 2013: The GNSO Council adopts<https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#20131120-2> the consensus recommendations contained in the Final Report of the PDP Working Group[1], including protections at the top and second level for certain Red Cross and Red Crescent names and acronyms (notably for the designations “Red Cross”, “Red Crescent”, “Red Crystal” and “Red Lion and Sun”), but excluding the protections and reservations called for, in accordance with the GAC’s advice, for - the names of the then-189 National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (in English and in the official languages of their respective States of origin; - the names of the two international organizations of the Movement (in the 6 UN languages) and their usual acronyms. The ICRC and the International Federation present a Minority Position Statement that is annexed to the GNSO’s Final Report.[2] In my view we need more information regarding the rationale for the PDP WG recommendations. Thanks Donna From: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Hankins Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 6:20 AM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Dear Mary, dear Olof, dear all, (1) Many thanks to Mr Tonkin and to ICANN Staff for circulating the various Briefing documents on the Red Cross and Red Crescent Protections. These will be very helpful in preparation for next Saturday's meeting and for achieving what, we hope, will provide a concrete outcome and resolution. On behalf of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Organisations, we are sharing herewith our comments on the Briefing Document circulated last Friday. We note that a new problem Statement has now been received, which we will also review. (2) Please note that the Agenda for ICANN 58 in Copenhagen, as posted on line, does not yet include a mention of Saturday's Working session on the Red Cross and Red Crescent protections. Also, if, as discussed during the recent telephone conference, a preparatory meeting is still envisaged on Friday afternoon, could you kindly confirm this as well. Looking forward to meeting you in Copenhagen and with kind regards, Stéphane Stéphane J. Hankins Legal adviser Cooperation and coordination within the Movement International Committee of the Red Cross Tel (direct line): ++0041 22 730 24 19 From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> To: "discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>" <discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>> Date: 03.03.2017 05:34 Subject: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Sent by: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org> ________________________________ Dear all, On behalf of Bruce Tonkin, the designated facilitator for the ongoing discussions, please find attached: (1) an updated Problem Statement on IGO acronyms, based on the email discussions to date and including the suggestions made by Jon Passaro and Phil Corwin; (2) an updated Process Framework document, based on participants’ feedback and the call on Red Cross protections that took place this past Monday; and (3) an initial draft of the Briefing Paper on Red Cross protections – all for your review and this group’s continuing discussions. You can also find copies of all three documents on the Discussion Group wiki space: https://community.icann.org/x/hIPRAw<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_hIPRAw&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=UvDJz3fKGFmm-w5KB6m9rZduw-JnmTg3HgovPugQJYU&s=EcjfUuc33XFkwMhFY7pq9li58Ofh5R544czZdiPcwLU&e=>. An updated Problem Statement on the topic of Red Cross protections (based on the Monday call), and an initial draft of a Briefing Paper on IGO acronyms, is being prepared and should be available for circulation very shortly. Thanks and cheers Mary and Olof (on behalf of Bruce)[attachment "IGO Problem Statement - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] [attachment "Outline of Proposed Process for Facilitated GAC-GNSO Dialogue on IGO Red Cross Protections - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] [attachment "Briefing Document - Red Cross - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] _______________________________________________ Discussion-igo-rc mailing list Discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:Discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion-igo-rc<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_discussion-2Digo-2Drc&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=UvDJz3fKGFmm-w5KB6m9rZduw-JnmTg3HgovPugQJYU&s=a1itsE__ez6J7fZF9DpnhkM0_VGbF2fWGpG9l2LZHhA&e=> =============================================================================== The ICRC - working to protect and assist people affected by armed conflict and other situations of violence. Find out more: www.icrc.org<http://www.icrc.org> This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s) only. Its contents are confidential and may only be retained by the named recipient (s) and may only be copied or disclosed with the consent of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). If you are not an intended recipient please delete this e-mail and notify the sender. =============================================================================== ________________________________ ________________________________ [1] See the Final Report from the PDP Working Group (November 2013), e.g. at p. 11: https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/igo-ingo-final-10nov13-en.pdf. [2] Accessible at https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/igo-ingo-final-minority-positions-10nov13-e.... Reference should also be made to the Public Comment submitted by the legal advisers of over 60 National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies to the ICANN community on the Initial Report on the Protection of IGO and INGO Identifiers in all gTLDs (dated 4 July 2013). (accessible at: https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-igo-ingo-initial-14jun13/msg00000.htm...)
Dear Bruce and Donna, I would in fact very much welcome such a summary of the rationale of the PDP WG recommendations. Please include direct quotations of the relevant passages from the final recommendation report of 2013. thanks and regards Jorge ________________________________ Von: Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> Datum: 7. März 2017 um 06:29:32 MEZ An: discussion-igo-rc@icann.org <discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> Betreff: Re: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Hello Donna, Are you able to draft a suitable paragraph? The aim here is to be brief and to the point to allow those that are not experts on the issue to read while they are travelling to the event. Regards, Bruce Tonkin From: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org [mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Austin, Donna Sent: Tuesday, 7 March 2017 10:12 AM To: Stephane Hankins <shankins@icrc.org>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>; discussion-igo-rc@icann.org Subject: Re: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Mary, all Is it possible to incorporate in the briefing document the rationale for the PDP WG’s recommendations as they relate to Red Cross names? I think it is important for us to understand the distinction made by the PDP WG between Scope 1 and Scope 2 Identifiers and why they were treated differently. The Briefing note currently states, among other things: November 2013: The GNSO Council adopts<https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#20131120-2> the consensus recommendations contained in the Final Report of the PDP Working Group[1], including protections at the top and second level for certain Red Cross and Red Crescent names and acronyms (notably for the designations “Red Cross”, “Red Crescent”, “Red Crystal” and “Red Lion and Sun”), but excluding the protections and reservations called for, in accordance with the GAC’s advice, for - the names of the then-189 National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (in English and in the official languages of their respective States of origin; - the names of the two international organizations of the Movement (in the 6 UN languages) and their usual acronyms. The ICRC and the International Federation present a Minority Position Statement that is annexed to the GNSO’s Final Report.[2] In my view we need more information regarding the rationale for the PDP WG recommendations. Thanks Donna From: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Hankins Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 6:20 AM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Dear Mary, dear Olof, dear all, (1) Many thanks to Mr Tonkin and to ICANN Staff for circulating the various Briefing documents on the Red Cross and Red Crescent Protections. These will be very helpful in preparation for next Saturday's meeting and for achieving what, we hope, will provide a concrete outcome and resolution. On behalf of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Organisations, we are sharing herewith our comments on the Briefing Document circulated last Friday. We note that a new problem Statement has now been received, which we will also review. (2) Please note that the Agenda for ICANN 58 in Copenhagen, as posted on line, does not yet include a mention of Saturday's Working session on the Red Cross and Red Crescent protections. Also, if, as discussed during the recent telephone conference, a preparatory meeting is still envisaged on Friday afternoon, could you kindly confirm this as well. Looking forward to meeting you in Copenhagen and with kind regards, Stéphane Stéphane J. Hankins Legal adviser Cooperation and coordination within the Movement International Committee of the Red Cross Tel (direct line): ++0041 22 730 24 19 From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> To: "discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>" <discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>> Date: 03.03.2017 05:34 Subject: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Sent by: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org> ________________________________ Dear all, On behalf of Bruce Tonkin, the designated facilitator for the ongoing discussions, please find attached: (1) an updated Problem Statement on IGO acronyms, based on the email discussions to date and including the suggestions made by Jon Passaro and Phil Corwin; (2) an updated Process Framework document, based on participants’ feedback and the call on Red Cross protections that took place this past Monday; and (3) an initial draft of the Briefing Paper on Red Cross protections – all for your review and this group’s continuing discussions. You can also find copies of all three documents on the Discussion Group wiki space: https://community.icann.org/x/hIPRAw<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_hIPRAw&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=UvDJz3fKGFmm-w5KB6m9rZduw-JnmTg3HgovPugQJYU&s=EcjfUuc33XFkwMhFY7pq9li58Ofh5R544czZdiPcwLU&e=>. An updated Problem Statement on the topic of Red Cross protections (based on the Monday call), and an initial draft of a Briefing Paper on IGO acronyms, is being prepared and should be available for circulation very shortly. 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Hi Donna, we are looking into this. Sorry for the late response in the pre-ICANN58 craziness. Thomas
Am 07.03.2017 um 00:12 schrieb Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@neustar.biz>:
Mary, all
Is it possible to incorporate in the briefing document the rationale for the PDP WG’s recommendations as they relate to Red Cross names? I think it is important for us to understand the distinction made by the PDP WG between Scope 1 and Scope 2 Identifiers and why they were treated differently.
The Briefing note currently states, among other things: November 2013: The GNSO Council adopts <https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#20131120-2> the consensus recommendations contained in the Final Report of the PDP Working Group[1] <x-msg://117/#_ftn1>, including protections at the top and second level for certain Red Cross and Red Crescent names and acronyms (notably for the designations “Red Cross”, “Red Crescent”, “Red Crystal” and “Red Lion and Sun”), but excluding the protections and reservations called for, in accordance with the GAC’s advice, for
- the names of the then-189 National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (in English and in the official languages of their respective States of origin;
- the names of the two international organizations of the Movement (in the 6 UN languages) and their usual acronyms.
The ICRC and the International Federation present a Minority Position Statement that is annexed to the GNSO’s Final Report.[2] <x-msg://117/#_ftn2> In my view we need more information regarding the rationale for the PDP WG recommendations.
Thanks
Donna
From: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org <mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org <mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Stephane Hankins Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 6:20 AM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; discussion-igo-rc@icann.org <mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation
Dear Mary, dear Olof, dear all,
(1) Many thanks to Mr Tonkin and to ICANN Staff for circulating the various Briefing documents on the Red Cross and Red Crescent Protections. These will be very helpful in preparation for next Saturday's meeting and for achieving what, we hope, will provide a concrete outcome and resolution.
On behalf of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Organisations, we are sharing herewith our comments on theBriefing Document circulated last Friday.
We note that a new problem Statement has now been received, which we will also review.
(2) Please note that the Agenda for ICANN 58 in Copenhagen, as posted on line, does not yet include a mention of Saturday's Working session on the Red Cross and Red Crescent protections.
Also, if, as discussed during the recent telephone conference, a preparatory meeting is still envisaged on Friday afternoon, could you kindly confirm this as well.
Looking forward to meeting you in Copenhagen and with kind regards,
Stéphane
Stéphane J. Hankins Legal adviser Cooperation and coordination within the Movement International Committee of the Red Cross Tel (direct line): ++0041 22 730 24 19
From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> To: "discussion-igo-rc@icann.org <mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>" <discussion-igo-rc@icann.org <mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>> Date: 03.03.2017 05:34 Subject: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Sent by: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org <mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org>
Dear all,
On behalf of Bruce Tonkin, the designated facilitator for the ongoing discussions, please find attached: (1) an updated Problem Statement on IGO acronyms, based on the email discussions to date and including the suggestions made by Jon Passaro and Phil Corwin; (2) an updated Process Framework document, based on participants’ feedback and the call on Red Cross protections that took place this past Monday; and (3) an initial draft of the Briefing Paper on Red Cross protections – all for your review and this group’s continuing discussions.
You can also find copies of all three documents on the Discussion Group wiki space:https://community.icann.org/x/hIPRAw <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_h...>.
An updated Problem Statement on the topic of Red Cross protections (based on the Monday call), and an initial draft of a Briefing Paper on IGO acronyms, is being prepared and should be available for circulation very shortly.
Thanks and cheers Mary and Olof (on behalf of Bruce)[attachment "IGO Problem Statement - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] [attachment "Outline of Proposed Process for Facilitated GAC-GNSO Dialogue on IGO Red Cross Protections - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC] [attachment "Briefing Document - Red Cross - updated 2 March 2017.docx" deleted by Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC]_______________________________________________ Discussion-igo-rc mailing list Discussion-igo-rc@icann.org <mailto:Discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion-igo-rc <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_li...>
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[1] <x-msg://117/#_ftnref1> See the Final Report from the PDP Working Group (November 2013), e.g. at p. 11: https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/igo-ingo-final-10nov13-en.pdf <https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/igo-ingo-final-10nov13-en.pdf>. [2] <x-msg://117/#_ftnref2> Accessible at https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/igo-ingo-final-minority-positions-10nov13-e... <https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/igo-ingo-final-minority-positions-10nov13-e...>. Reference should also be made to the Public Comment submitted by the legal advisers of over 60 National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies to the ICANN community on the Initial Report on the Protection of IGO and INGO Identifiers in all gTLDs (dated 4 July 2013). (accessible at: https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-igo-ingo-initial-14jun13/msg00000.htm... <https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-igo-ingo-initial-14jun13/msg00000.htm...>) _______________________________________________ Discussion-igo-rc mailing list Discussion-igo-rc@icann.org <mailto:Discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion-igo-rc <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion-igo-rc>
That would be extremely helpful From: <discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Thomas Rickert <thomas@rickert.net<mailto:thomas@rickert.net>> Date: Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 4:42 PM To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@neustar.biz<mailto:Donna.Austin@neustar.biz>> Cc: "discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>" <discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Hi Donna, we are looking into this. Sorry for the late response in the pre-ICANN58 craziness. Thomas Am 07.03.2017 um 00:12 schrieb Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@neustar.biz<mailto:Donna.Austin@neustar.biz>>: Mary, all Is it possible to incorporate in the briefing document the rationale for the PDP WG’s recommendations as they relate to Red Cross names? I think it is important for us to understand the distinction made by the PDP WG between Scope 1 and Scope 2 Identifiers and why they were treated differently. The Briefing note currently states, among other things: November 2013: The GNSO Council adopts<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_counc...> the consensus recommendations contained in the Final Report of the PDP Working Group[1]<x-msg://117/#_ftn1>, including protections at the top and second level for certain Red Cross and Red Crescent names and acronyms (notably for the designations “Red Cross”, “Red Crescent”, “Red Crystal” and “Red Lion and Sun”), but excluding the protections and reservations called for, in accordance with the GAC’s advice, for - the names of the then-189 National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (in English and in the official languages of their respective States of origin; - the names of the two international organizations of the Movement (in the 6 UN languages) and their usual acronyms. The ICRC and the International Federation present a Minority Position Statement that is annexed to the GNSO’s Final Report.[2]<x-msg://117/#_ftn2> In my view we need more information regarding the rationale for the PDP WG recommendations. Thanks Donna From: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Hankins Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 6:20 AM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Dear Mary, dear Olof, dear all, (1) Many thanks to Mr Tonkin and to ICANN Staff for circulating the various Briefing documents on the Red Cross and Red Crescent Protections. These will be very helpful in preparation for next Saturday's meeting and for achieving what, we hope, will provide a concrete outcome and resolution. On behalf of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Organisations, we are sharing herewith our comments on theBriefing Document circulated last Friday. We note that a new problem Statement has now been received, which we will also review. (2) Please note that the Agenda for ICANN 58 in Copenhagen, as posted on line, does not yet include a mention of Saturday's Working session on the Red Cross and Red Crescent protections. Also, if, as discussed during the recent telephone conference, a preparatory meeting is still envisaged on Friday afternoon, could you kindly confirm this as well. Looking forward to meeting you in Copenhagen and with kind regards, Stéphane Stéphane J. Hankins Legal adviser Cooperation and coordination within the Movement International Committee of the Red Cross Tel (direct line): ++0041 22 730 24 19 From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> To: "discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>" <discussion-igo-rc@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc@icann.org>> Date: 03.03.2017 05:34 Subject: [Discussion-igo-rc] FOR REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Updated documentation Sent by: discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org<mailto:discussion-igo-rc-bounces@icann.org> ________________________________ Dear all, On behalf of Bruce Tonkin, the designated facilitator for the ongoing discussions, please find attached: (1) an updated Problem Statement on IGO acronyms, based on the email discussions to date and including the suggestions made by Jon Passaro and Phil Corwin; (2) an updated Process Framework document, based on participants’ feedback and the call on Red Cross protections that took place this past Monday; and (3) an initial draft of the Briefing Paper on Red Cross protections – all for your review and this group’s continuing discussions. You can also find copies of all three documents on the Discussion Group wiki space:https://community.icann.org/x/hIPRAw<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_hIPRAw&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=UvDJz3fKGFmm-w5KB6m9rZduw-JnmTg3HgovPugQJYU&s=EcjfUuc33XFkwMhFY7pq9li58Ofh5R544czZdiPcwLU&e=>. An updated Problem Statement on the topic of Red Cross protections (based on the Monday call), and an initial draft of a Briefing Paper on IGO acronyms, is being prepared and should be available for circulation very shortly. 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Mary Wong -
Stephane Hankins -
Thomas Rickert