Re: [EURO-Discuss] Draft statement on the operational plan and budget
i think it should be read on behalf of euralo first and we should get the other ralos and alac supportit and of course it should go in the final summit documents. best greetings annette
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Adam Peake" <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> Gesendet: 04.03.09 18:35:34 An: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Draft statement on the operational plan and budget
I support the statement and would be happy if it were read on behalf of EU RALO, or in my name if it would be appropriate for some form of individual sign-up.
Adam
Wolf Ludwig ha scritto:
Thank you very much, Vittorio, for this excellent draft statement what I fully support in its "hard on ICANN" manner. The text is well substantiated and the operational plan and budget document is contradicting all the official talk about "multistakeholder involvement" and "Bottom-up policy development".
What do we do next? I understood that we need to release this urgently, before the end of the ICANN meeting. As it seems that we all agree on it, could we suggest the other RALOs and the ALAC to support it? Or could it go in the final Summit documents? Also, another opportunity would be for you (as Chair) to read it during the public forum tomorrow. Ciao, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------
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I am also in favor - and if we manage to get other RALO support that would be good - can someone circulate it to them? however i not sure it should go into the final declaration max On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Annette Muehlberg <Annette.Muehlberg@web.de>wrote: > i think it should be read on behalf of euralo first and we should get the > other ralos and alac supportit and of course it should go in the final > summit documents. > > best greetings > annette > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: "Adam Peake" <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> > > Gesendet: 04.03.09 18:35:34 > > An: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Draft statement on the operational plan and > budget > - Show quoted text - > > > > I support the statement and would be happy if it were read on behalf > > of EU RALO, or in my name if it would be appropriate for some form of > > individual sign-up. > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > >Wolf Ludwig ha scritto: > > >> Thank you very much, Vittorio, for this excellent draft statement > what I > > >> fully support in its "hard on ICANN" manner. The text is well > substantiated > > >> and the operational plan and budget document is contradicting all the > > >> official talk about "multistakeholder involvement" and "Bottom-up > policy > > >> development". > > > > > >What do we do next? I understood that we need to release this urgently, > > >before the end of the ICANN meeting. > > >As it seems that we all agree on it, could we suggest the other RALOs > > >and the ALAC to support it? Or could it go in the final Summit > documents? > > >Also, another opportunity would be for you (as Chair) to read it during > > >the public forum tomorrow. > > >Ciao, > > >-- > > >vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- > > >--------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >EURO-Discuss mailing list > > >EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > >Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > EURO-Discuss mailing list > > EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > > > > -- > - Show quoted text - > > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org >
Hi, the statement was forwarded to Evan/NARALO and Carlton/LACRALO for verification and potential support (more doesn't seem to be realistic on short notice). Several of us agree that it cannot be included in the Summit Declaration without prior approval of all - besides some other formal considerations. But I agree that it should be presented at tomorrow's Open Forum. Best, Wolf Max Senges wrote Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:19: >I am also in favor - and if we manage to get other RALO support that would >be good - can someone circulate it to them? > >however i not sure it should go into the final declaration > >max > >On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Annette Muehlberg ><Annette.Muehlberg@web.de>wrote: > >> i think it should be read on behalf of euralo first and we should get the >> other ralos and alac supportit and of course it should go in the final >> summit documents. >> >> best greetings >> annette >> >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> > Von: "Adam Peake" <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> >> > Gesendet: 04.03.09 18:35:34 >> > An: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >> > Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Draft statement on the operational plan and >> budget >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > I support the statement and would be happy if it were read on behalf >> > of EU RALO, or in my name if it would be appropriate for some form of >> > individual sign-up. >> > >> > Adam >> > >> > >> > >> > >Wolf Ludwig ha scritto: >> > >> Thank you very much, Vittorio, for this excellent draft statement >> what I >> > >> fully support in its "hard on ICANN" manner. The text is well >> substantiated >> > >> and the operational plan and budget document is contradicting all the >> > >> official talk about "multistakeholder involvement" and "Bottom-up >> policy >> > >> development". >> > > >> > >What do we do next? I understood that we need to release this urgently, >> > >before the end of the ICANN meeting. >> > >As it seems that we all agree on it, could we suggest the other RALOs >> > >and the ALAC to support it? Or could it go in the final Summit >> documents? >> > >Also, another opportunity would be for you (as Chair) to read it during >> > >the public forum tomorrow. >> > >Ciao, >> > >-- >> > >vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- >> > >--------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >EURO-Discuss mailing list >> > >EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > > >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > > >> > >Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > EURO-Discuss mailing list >> > EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >> > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org >> > >> >> -- >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EURO-Discuss mailing list >> EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org >> >_______________________________________________ >EURO-Discuss mailing list >EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allemd http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?euralo_icann_at_large_europe
Hi Wolf, Try to gain the approval if possible. It would be appropriate to include the statement in the Summit Declaration. I guess the majority could suffice. Dominik -----Original Message----- From: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wolf Ludwig Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:55 PM To: Discussion for At-Large Europe; Discussion for At-Large Europe Cc: Carlton Samuels; Evan Leibovitch Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Draft statement on the operational plan andbudget Hi, the statement was forwarded to Evan/NARALO and Carlton/LACRALO for verification and potential support (more doesn't seem to be realistic on short notice). Several of us agree that it cannot be included in the Summit Declaration without prior approval of all - besides some other formal considerations. But I agree that it should be presented at tomorrow's Open Forum. Best, Wolf Max Senges wrote Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:19: >I am also in favor - and if we manage to get other RALO support that would >be good - can someone circulate it to them? > >however i not sure it should go into the final declaration > >max > >On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Annette Muehlberg ><Annette.Muehlberg@web.de>wrote: > >> i think it should be read on behalf of euralo first and we should get the >> other ralos and alac supportit and of course it should go in the final >> summit documents. >> >> best greetings >> annette >> >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> > Von: "Adam Peake" <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> >> > Gesendet: 04.03.09 18:35:34 >> > An: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >> > Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Draft statement on the operational plan and >> budget >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > I support the statement and would be happy if it were read on behalf >> > of EU RALO, or in my name if it would be appropriate for some form of >> > individual sign-up. >> > >> > Adam >> > >> > >> > >> > >Wolf Ludwig ha scritto: >> > >> Thank you very much, Vittorio, for this excellent draft statement >> what I >> > >> fully support in its "hard on ICANN" manner. The text is well >> substantiated >> > >> and the operational plan and budget document is contradicting all the >> > >> official talk about "multistakeholder involvement" and "Bottom-up >> policy >> > >> development". >> > > >> > >What do we do next? I understood that we need to release this urgently, >> > >before the end of the ICANN meeting. >> > >As it seems that we all agree on it, could we suggest the other RALOs >> > >and the ALAC to support it? Or could it go in the final Summit >> documents? >> > >Also, another opportunity would be for you (as Chair) to read it during >> > >the public forum tomorrow. >> > >Ciao, >> > >-- >> > >vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- >> > >--------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >EURO-Discuss mailing list >> > >EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > > >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > > >> > >Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > EURO-Discuss mailing list >> > EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >> > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org >> > >> >> -- >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EURO-Discuss mailing list >> EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org >> >_______________________________________________ >EURO-Discuss mailing list >EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allemd http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?euralo_icann_at_large_europe _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
I support this document. Tommi On 3/4/2009, "Max Senges" <senges@kdun.org> wrote: > I am also in favor - and if we manage to get other RALO support that would > be good - can someone circulate it to them? > > however i not sure it should go into the final declaration > > max > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Annette Muehlberg > <Annette.Muehlberg@web.de>wrote: > > > i think it should be read on behalf of euralo first and we should get the > > other ralos and alac supportit and of course it should go in the final > > summit documents. > > > > best greetings > > annette > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: "Adam Peake" <ajp@glocom.ac.jp> > > > Gesendet: 04.03.09 18:35:34 > > > An: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Draft statement on the operational plan and > > budget > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > I support the statement and would be happy if it were read on behalf > > > of EU RALO, or in my name if it would be appropriate for some form of > > > individual sign-up. > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > >Wolf Ludwig ha scritto: > > > >> Thank you very much, Vittorio, for this excellent draft statement > > what I > > > >> fully support in its "hard on ICANN" manner. The text is well > > substantiated > > > >> and the operational plan and budget document is contradicting all the > > > >> official talk about "multistakeholder involvement" and "Bottom-up > > policy > > > >> development". > > > > > > > >What do we do next? I understood that we need to release this urgently, > > > >before the end of the ICANN meeting. > > > >As it seems that we all agree on it, could we suggest the other RALOs > > > >and the ALAC to support it? Or could it go in the final Summit > > documents? > > > >Also, another opportunity would be for you (as Chair) to read it during > > > >the public forum tomorrow. > > > >Ciao, > > > >-- > > > >vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- > > > >--------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >EURO-Discuss mailing list > > > >EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > >Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > EURO-Discuss mailing list > > > EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > > > > > > > -- > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > EURO-Discuss mailing list > > EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
For what it is worth, I support it too. Patrick Tommi Karttaavi wrote, On 4/3/09 14:48:
I support this document.
Tommi
On 3/4/2009, "Max Senges"<senges@kdun.org> wrote:
I am also in favor - and if we manage to get other RALO support that would be good - can someone circulate it to them?
however i not sure it should go into the final declaration
max
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Annette Muehlberg <Annette.Muehlberg@web.de>wrote:
i think it should be read on behalf of euralo first and we should get the other ralos and alac supportit and of course it should go in the final summit documents.
best greetings annette
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Adam Peake"<ajp@glocom.ac.jp> Gesendet: 04.03.09 18:35:34 An: Discussion for At-Large Europe<euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org
Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Draft statement on the operational plan and
budget - Show quoted text -
I support the statement and would be happy if it were read on behalf of EU RALO, or in my name if it would be appropriate for some form of individual sign-up.
Adam
Wolf Ludwig ha scritto:
Thank you very much, Vittorio, for this excellent draft statement
what I
fully support in its "hard on ICANN" manner. The text is well
substantiated
and the operational plan and budget document is contradicting all the official talk about "multistakeholder involvement" and "Bottom-up
policy
development".
What do we do next? I understood that we need to release this urgently, before the end of the ICANN meeting. As it seems that we all agree on it, could we suggest the other RALOs and the ALAC to support it? Or could it go in the final Summit
documents?
Also, another opportunity would be for you (as Chair) to read it during the public forum tomorrow. Ciao, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu<-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/<--------
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