if you missed ICANN75 Read Out by EURALO
Dear Euralo Members, I assume that not all of you followed the ICANN75 ReadOut by EURALO yesterday. It was, as always (thanks a lot to ICANN and Sebastien Bachollet) a friendly, constructive, useful readout. But there was an incident: in the comments in the chat (publicly) I received abuse from one of our members. Yesterday I received questions and calls from some (many) of you and ICANN community members. That is why I am using this opportunity to write to you now not just as a member of the At-Large, but as a Secretary of EURALO with the aim to abstract from personalities and look at the (not the first one) incidents that happening inside of EURALO and possible consequences. I would like to share my thoughts and put some rhetorical questions: 1. Our communication with the outside world is our face, inner state, beauty or ugliness of our soul, our level of professionalism. The ability to maintain political correctness and avoid becoming personal and abusing is a skill and talent that we all can aspire to. At least to try. 2. The mission, goals and objectives of the At-Large community and operational rules provide the information about some kind of obligations. Unfortunately, work is not a goal for everyone here. Some are trying to earn PR and political points for themselves on the wave of acute topics and through personal attacks and abuse. These actions haven`t common goals with the working needs and our tasks. Time to time it has been happening since about 2013. But the experienced EURALO members and the reports of the Ombudsman will say more exactly, I may be mistaken. Names of participants are almost the same. 3. We all should follow the ICANN rules of behavior. But for someone these rules do mean nothing. Why? Are we not all equal? How long can someone be a source of constant conflict? 4. ICANN and At-Large spend significant resources (money, time, efforts) on the Mobilization, on Outreach and Engagement activities, the opportunity to establish local connections in the regions, attract more interested participants (ALSs and individuals), highlight the friendly atmosphere, neutrality and focus on the ICANN issues. The precedents of yesterday (and similar with the same participants) negates our efforts. I received a lot of questions from people yesterday – what is again going on and why is this acceptable? These are people who look at At-large, EURALO and at the opportunity to join. I hope that we have a future in this direction, but two phrases in chat can destroy the bridges we try to build. 5. We are here with the aim to be useful. What is behind the people who spread intrigues and scandals - only intrigues and scandals or real efficiency for At-Large? 6. Again: Nationalism, extremism are unacceptable things.The history of these personal attacks on me has a reason - I am Russian. I live in Russia. These thoughts above relate not such cases only, more - the present and future of our community (EURALO and At-Large), our ability and desire to communicate, work, grow and develop together, to accept new active participants of the ICANN PDP, to meet Youth here. We should not scare people, sow the conflicts, crumble ourselves into molecules, subgroups and parties, can`t indulging aggressive people to play their games using our public events, involving the names of At-Large members, ICANN staff in personal fights and ruining the reputation of EURALO. Thank you for reading this long text. Maybe we can find the answers together and ways to fix gaps. Yesterday I received a huge support from our community members. Thank you very much my dear friends. Being here, to work and communicate with you is a real privilege and joy for me. Sincerely, Natalia Filina Secretary of EURALO https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo +7 906 722 54 61 Moscow, Russian Federation
Hello there, I’m sorry I didn’t follow the readout yesterday. Could you please explain to people like me who didn’t participate what happened and what you are talking about? (Of course, even without knowing what happened yesterday, I can’t do nothing else but support your statements below.) Thanks a lot, Eric. De : euroindividuals@googlegroups.com <euroindividuals@googlegroups.com> De la part de Natalia Filina Envoyé : mercredi 5 octobre 2022 20:04 À : Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Euroindividuals <euroindividuals@googlegroups.com> Cc : Sebastien Bachollet <sebicann@bachollet.fr>; Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> Objet : [euroindividuals] if you missed ICANN75 Read Out by EURALO Dear Euralo Members, I assume that not all of you followed the ICANN75 ReadOut by EURALO yesterday. It was, as always (thanks a lot to ICANN and Sebastien Bachollet) a friendly, constructive, useful readout. But there was an incident: in the comments in the chat (publicly) I received abuse from one of our members. Yesterday I received questions and calls from some (many) of you and ICANN community members. That is why I am using this opportunity to write to you now not just as a member of the At-Large, but as a Secretary of EURALO with the aim to abstract from personalities and look at the (not the first one) incidents that happening inside of EURALO and possible consequences. I would like to share my thoughts and put some rhetorical questions: 1. Our communication with the outside world is our face, inner state, beauty or ugliness of our soul, our level of professionalism. The ability to maintain political correctness and avoid becoming personal and abusing is a skill and talent that we all can aspire to. At least to try. 2. The mission, goals and objectives of the At-Large community and operational rules provide the information about some kind of obligations. Unfortunately, work is not a goal for everyone here. Some are trying to earn PR and political points for themselves on the wave of acute topics and through personal attacks and abuse. These actions haven`t common goals with the working needs and our tasks. Time to time it has been happening since about 2013. But the experienced EURALO members and the reports of the Ombudsman will say more exactly, I may be mistaken. Names of participants are almost the same. 3. We all should follow the ICANN rules of behavior. But for someone these rules do mean nothing. Why? Are we not all equal? How long can someone be a source of constant conflict? 4. ICANN and At-Large spend significant resources (money, time, efforts) on the Mobilization, on Outreach and Engagement activities, the opportunity to establish local connections in the regions, attract more interested participants (ALSs and individuals), highlight the friendly atmosphere, neutrality and focus on the ICANN issues. The precedents of yesterday (and similar with the same participants) negates our efforts. I received a lot of questions from people yesterday – what is again going on and why is this acceptable? These are people who look at At-large, EURALO and at the opportunity to join. I hope that we have a future in this direction, but two phrases in chat can destroy the bridges we try to build. 5. We are here with the aim to be useful. What is behind the people who spread intrigues and scandals - only intrigues and scandals or real efficiency for At-Large? 6. Again: Nationalism, extremism are unacceptable things.The history of these personal attacks on me has a reason - I am Russian. I live in Russia. These thoughts above relate not such cases only, more - the present and future of our community (EURALO and At-Large), our ability and desire to communicate, work, grow and develop together, to accept new active participants of the ICANN PDP, to meet Youth here. We should not scare people, sow the conflicts, crumble ourselves into molecules, subgroups and parties, can`t indulging aggressive people to play their games using our public events, involving the names of At-Large members, ICANN staff in personal fights and ruining the reputation of EURALO. Thank you for reading this long text. Maybe we can find the answers together and ways to fix gaps. Yesterday I received a huge support from our community members. Thank you very much my dear friends. Being here, to work and communicate with you is a real privilege and joy for me. Sincerely, Natalia Filina Secretary of EURALO https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo +7 906 722 54 61 Moscow, Russian Federation <https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4w4RIAaWTyiZIOx_s9cdeaiEW494...> -- Please see our website at http://individualusers.org. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Euroindividuals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to euroindividuals+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com <mailto:euroindividuals+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/euroindividuals/CAF_z5NVbKf2vh%3DTBash8Zr8... <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/euroindividuals/CAF_z5NVbKf2vh%3DTBash8Zr8...> .
Dear Eric, thank you for your reaction and feedback, very important and appreciated. I am finalizing the EURALO Newsletter and the link to the Readout will be putten there. But I am happy to provide the link (all links are available on our wiki pages) - https://community.icann.org/x/QQPVD And of course I would like to focus your attention on the great speeches of the guest-speakers and useful overview. Hope to see you (and many of us) at ICANN76 Read Out by EURALO. Have a nice day to all of you Best, Natalia Filina Moscow, Russia чт, 6 окт. 2022 г. в 00:32, Eric Tomson <et@skynet.be>:
Hello there,
I’m sorry I didn’t follow the readout yesterday.
Could you please explain to people like me who didn’t participate what happened and what you are talking about?
(Of course, even without knowing what happened yesterday, I can’t do nothing else but support your statements below.)
Thanks a lot,
Eric.
*De :* euroindividuals@googlegroups.com <euroindividuals@googlegroups.com> *De la part de* Natalia Filina *Envoyé :* mercredi 5 octobre 2022 20:04 *À :* Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Euroindividuals <euroindividuals@googlegroups.com> *Cc :* Sebastien Bachollet <sebicann@bachollet.fr>; Jonathan Zuck < JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> *Objet :* [euroindividuals] if you missed ICANN75 Read Out by EURALO
Dear Euralo Members,
I assume that not all of you followed the ICANN75 ReadOut by EURALO yesterday. It was, as always (thanks a lot to ICANN and Sebastien Bachollet) a friendly, constructive, useful readout. But there was an incident: in the comments in the chat (publicly) I received abuse from one of our members.
Yesterday I received questions and calls from some (many) of you and ICANN community members. That is why I am using this opportunity to write to you now not just as a member of the At-Large, but as a Secretary of EURALO with the aim to abstract from personalities and look at the (not the first one) incidents that happening inside of EURALO and possible consequences. I would like to share my thoughts and put some rhetorical questions:
1. Our communication with the outside world is our face, inner state, beauty or ugliness of our soul, our level of professionalism. The ability to maintain political correctness and avoid becoming personal and abusing is a skill and talent that we all can aspire to. At least to try.
2. The mission, goals and objectives of the At-Large community and operational rules provide the information about some kind of obligations. Unfortunately, work is not a goal for everyone here. Some are trying to earn PR and political points for themselves on the wave of acute topics and through personal attacks and abuse. These actions haven`t common goals with the working needs and our tasks. Time to time it has been happening since about 2013. But the experienced EURALO members and the reports of the Ombudsman will say more exactly, I may be mistaken. Names of participants are almost the same.
3. We all should follow the ICANN rules of behavior. But for someone these rules do mean nothing. Why? Are we not all equal? How long can someone be a source of constant conflict?
4. ICANN and At-Large spend significant resources (money, time, efforts) on the Mobilization, on Outreach and Engagement activities, the opportunity to establish local connections in the regions, attract more interested participants (ALSs and individuals), highlight the friendly atmosphere, neutrality and focus on the ICANN issues. The precedents of yesterday (and similar with the same participants) negates our efforts. I received a lot of questions from people yesterday – what is again going on and why is this acceptable? These are people who look at At-large, EURALO and at the opportunity to join. I hope that we have a future in this direction, but two phrases in chat can destroy the bridges we try to build.
5. We are here with the aim to be useful. What is behind the people who spread intrigues and scandals - only intrigues and scandals or real efficiency for At-Large?
6. Again: Nationalism, extremism are unacceptable things.The history of these personal attacks on me has a reason - I am Russian. I live in Russia.
These thoughts above relate not such cases only, more - the present and future of our community (EURALO and At-Large), our ability and desire to communicate, work, grow and develop together, to accept new active participants of the ICANN PDP, to meet Youth here. We should not scare people, sow the conflicts, crumble ourselves into molecules, subgroups and parties, can`t indulging aggressive people to play their games using our public events, involving the names of At-Large members, ICANN staff in personal fights and ruining the reputation of EURALO.
Thank you for reading this long text. Maybe we can find the answers together and ways to fix gaps. Yesterday I received a huge support from our community members.
Thank you very much my dear friends. Being here, to work and communicate with you is a real privilege and joy for me.
Sincerely,
Natalia Filina
Secretary of EURALO
https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo
+7 906 722 54 61
Moscow, Russian Federation
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Dear all, I have to apologize for the inappropriate language that I allowed in the chat room of the ICANN75 ReadOut by EURALO. It won't happen again in the future. I also would like to thank Ombudsman Herb Waye and Katrina Sataki for convincing me to apologize. Kind regards, Oksana On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 2:27 PM Natalia Filina via EURO-Discuss < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Eric,
thank you for your reaction and feedback, very important and appreciated. I am finalizing the EURALO Newsletter and the link to the Readout will be putten there. But I am happy to provide the link (all links are available on our wiki pages) - https://community.icann.org/x/QQPVD
And of course I would like to focus your attention on the great speeches of the guest-speakers and useful overview. Hope to see you (and many of us) at ICANN76 Read Out by EURALO.
Have a nice day to all of you
Best, Natalia Filina
Moscow, Russia
чт, 6 окт. 2022 г. в 00:32, Eric Tomson <et@skynet.be>:
Hello there,
I’m sorry I didn’t follow the readout yesterday.
Could you please explain to people like me who didn’t participate what happened and what you are talking about?
(Of course, even without knowing what happened yesterday, I can’t do nothing else but support your statements below.)
Thanks a lot,
Eric.
*De :* euroindividuals@googlegroups.com <euroindividuals@googlegroups.com> *De la part de* Natalia Filina *Envoyé :* mercredi 5 octobre 2022 20:04 *À :* Discussion for At-Large Europe < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Euroindividuals < euroindividuals@googlegroups.com> *Cc :* Sebastien Bachollet <sebicann@bachollet.fr>; Jonathan Zuck < JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> *Objet :* [euroindividuals] if you missed ICANN75 Read Out by EURALO
Dear Euralo Members,
I assume that not all of you followed the ICANN75 ReadOut by EURALO yesterday. It was, as always (thanks a lot to ICANN and Sebastien Bachollet) a friendly, constructive, useful readout. But there was an incident: in the comments in the chat (publicly) I received abuse from one of our members.
Yesterday I received questions and calls from some (many) of you and ICANN community members. That is why I am using this opportunity to write to you now not just as a member of the At-Large, but as a Secretary of EURALO with the aim to abstract from personalities and look at the (not the first one) incidents that happening inside of EURALO and possible consequences. I would like to share my thoughts and put some rhetorical questions:
1. Our communication with the outside world is our face, inner state, beauty or ugliness of our soul, our level of professionalism. The ability to maintain political correctness and avoid becoming personal and abusing is a skill and talent that we all can aspire to. At least to try.
2. The mission, goals and objectives of the At-Large community and operational rules provide the information about some kind of obligations. Unfortunately, work is not a goal for everyone here. Some are trying to earn PR and political points for themselves on the wave of acute topics and through personal attacks and abuse. These actions haven`t common goals with the working needs and our tasks. Time to time it has been happening since about 2013. But the experienced EURALO members and the reports of the Ombudsman will say more exactly, I may be mistaken. Names of participants are almost the same.
3. We all should follow the ICANN rules of behavior. But for someone these rules do mean nothing. Why? Are we not all equal? How long can someone be a source of constant conflict?
4. ICANN and At-Large spend significant resources (money, time, efforts) on the Mobilization, on Outreach and Engagement activities, the opportunity to establish local connections in the regions, attract more interested participants (ALSs and individuals), highlight the friendly atmosphere, neutrality and focus on the ICANN issues. The precedents of yesterday (and similar with the same participants) negates our efforts. I received a lot of questions from people yesterday – what is again going on and why is this acceptable? These are people who look at At-large, EURALO and at the opportunity to join. I hope that we have a future in this direction, but two phrases in chat can destroy the bridges we try to build.
5. We are here with the aim to be useful. What is behind the people who spread intrigues and scandals - only intrigues and scandals or real efficiency for At-Large?
6. Again: Nationalism, extremism are unacceptable things.The history of these personal attacks on me has a reason - I am Russian. I live in Russia.
These thoughts above relate not such cases only, more - the present and future of our community (EURALO and At-Large), our ability and desire to communicate, work, grow and develop together, to accept new active participants of the ICANN PDP, to meet Youth here. We should not scare people, sow the conflicts, crumble ourselves into molecules, subgroups and parties, can`t indulging aggressive people to play their games using our public events, involving the names of At-Large members, ICANN staff in personal fights and ruining the reputation of EURALO.
Thank you for reading this long text. Maybe we can find the answers together and ways to fix gaps. Yesterday I received a huge support from our community members.
Thank you very much my dear friends. Being here, to work and communicate with you is a real privilege and joy for me.
Sincerely,
Natalia Filina
Secretary of EURALO
https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo
+7 906 722 54 61
Moscow, Russian Federation
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Oksana, Thank you. Best regards, Natalia пт, 7 окт. 2022 г., 11:23 Oksana Prykhodko <sana.pryhod@gmail.com>:
Dear all,
I have to apologize for the inappropriate language that I allowed in the chat room of the ICANN75 ReadOut by EURALO. It won't happen again in the future.
I also would like to thank Ombudsman Herb Waye and Katrina Sataki for convincing me to apologize.
Kind regards, Oksana
On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 2:27 PM Natalia Filina via EURO-Discuss < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Eric,
thank you for your reaction and feedback, very important and appreciated. I am finalizing the EURALO Newsletter and the link to the Readout will be putten there. But I am happy to provide the link (all links are available on our wiki pages) - https://community.icann.org/x/QQPVD
And of course I would like to focus your attention on the great speeches of the guest-speakers and useful overview. Hope to see you (and many of us) at ICANN76 Read Out by EURALO.
Have a nice day to all of you
Best, Natalia Filina
Moscow, Russia
чт, 6 окт. 2022 г. в 00:32, Eric Tomson <et@skynet.be>:
Hello there,
I’m sorry I didn’t follow the readout yesterday.
Could you please explain to people like me who didn’t participate what happened and what you are talking about?
(Of course, even without knowing what happened yesterday, I can’t do nothing else but support your statements below.)
Thanks a lot,
Eric.
*De :* euroindividuals@googlegroups.com < euroindividuals@googlegroups.com> *De la part de* Natalia Filina *Envoyé :* mercredi 5 octobre 2022 20:04 *À :* Discussion for At-Large Europe < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Euroindividuals < euroindividuals@googlegroups.com> *Cc :* Sebastien Bachollet <sebicann@bachollet.fr>; Jonathan Zuck < JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>; Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> *Objet :* [euroindividuals] if you missed ICANN75 Read Out by EURALO
Dear Euralo Members,
I assume that not all of you followed the ICANN75 ReadOut by EURALO yesterday. It was, as always (thanks a lot to ICANN and Sebastien Bachollet) a friendly, constructive, useful readout. But there was an incident: in the comments in the chat (publicly) I received abuse from one of our members.
Yesterday I received questions and calls from some (many) of you and ICANN community members. That is why I am using this opportunity to write to you now not just as a member of the At-Large, but as a Secretary of EURALO with the aim to abstract from personalities and look at the (not the first one) incidents that happening inside of EURALO and possible consequences. I would like to share my thoughts and put some rhetorical questions:
1. Our communication with the outside world is our face, inner state, beauty or ugliness of our soul, our level of professionalism. The ability to maintain political correctness and avoid becoming personal and abusing is a skill and talent that we all can aspire to. At least to try.
2. The mission, goals and objectives of the At-Large community and operational rules provide the information about some kind of obligations. Unfortunately, work is not a goal for everyone here. Some are trying to earn PR and political points for themselves on the wave of acute topics and through personal attacks and abuse. These actions haven`t common goals with the working needs and our tasks. Time to time it has been happening since about 2013. But the experienced EURALO members and the reports of the Ombudsman will say more exactly, I may be mistaken. Names of participants are almost the same.
3. We all should follow the ICANN rules of behavior. But for someone these rules do mean nothing. Why? Are we not all equal? How long can someone be a source of constant conflict?
4. ICANN and At-Large spend significant resources (money, time, efforts) on the Mobilization, on Outreach and Engagement activities, the opportunity to establish local connections in the regions, attract more interested participants (ALSs and individuals), highlight the friendly atmosphere, neutrality and focus on the ICANN issues. The precedents of yesterday (and similar with the same participants) negates our efforts. I received a lot of questions from people yesterday – what is again going on and why is this acceptable? These are people who look at At-large, EURALO and at the opportunity to join. I hope that we have a future in this direction, but two phrases in chat can destroy the bridges we try to build.
5. We are here with the aim to be useful. What is behind the people who spread intrigues and scandals - only intrigues and scandals or real efficiency for At-Large?
6. Again: Nationalism, extremism are unacceptable things.The history of these personal attacks on me has a reason - I am Russian. I live in Russia.
These thoughts above relate not such cases only, more - the present and future of our community (EURALO and At-Large), our ability and desire to communicate, work, grow and develop together, to accept new active participants of the ICANN PDP, to meet Youth here. We should not scare people, sow the conflicts, crumble ourselves into molecules, subgroups and parties, can`t indulging aggressive people to play their games using our public events, involving the names of At-Large members, ICANN staff in personal fights and ruining the reputation of EURALO.
Thank you for reading this long text. Maybe we can find the answers together and ways to fix gaps. Yesterday I received a huge support from our community members.
Thank you very much my dear friends. Being here, to work and communicate with you is a real privilege and joy for me.
Sincerely,
Natalia Filina
Secretary of EURALO
https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo
+7 906 722 54 61
Moscow, Russian Federation
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Thank you @Natalia Filina <filinafilka@gmail.com> for the great session. Chokri Le mer. 5 oct. 2022 à 19:05, Natalia Filina via EURO-Discuss < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> a écrit :
Dear Euralo Members,
I assume that not all of you followed the ICANN75 ReadOut by EURALO yesterday. It was, as always (thanks a lot to ICANN and Sebastien Bachollet) a friendly, constructive, useful readout. But there was an incident: in the comments in the chat (publicly) I received abuse from one of our members.
Yesterday I received questions and calls from some (many) of you and ICANN community members. That is why I am using this opportunity to write to you now not just as a member of the At-Large, but as a Secretary of EURALO with the aim to abstract from personalities and look at the (not the first one) incidents that happening inside of EURALO and possible consequences. I would like to share my thoughts and put some rhetorical questions:
1. Our communication with the outside world is our face, inner state, beauty or ugliness of our soul, our level of professionalism. The ability to maintain political correctness and avoid becoming personal and abusing is a skill and talent that we all can aspire to. At least to try.
2. The mission, goals and objectives of the At-Large community and operational rules provide the information about some kind of obligations. Unfortunately, work is not a goal for everyone here. Some are trying to earn PR and political points for themselves on the wave of acute topics and through personal attacks and abuse. These actions haven`t common goals with the working needs and our tasks. Time to time it has been happening since about 2013. But the experienced EURALO members and the reports of the Ombudsman will say more exactly, I may be mistaken. Names of participants are almost the same.
3. We all should follow the ICANN rules of behavior. But for someone these rules do mean nothing. Why? Are we not all equal? How long can someone be a source of constant conflict?
4. ICANN and At-Large spend significant resources (money, time, efforts) on the Mobilization, on Outreach and Engagement activities, the opportunity to establish local connections in the regions, attract more interested participants (ALSs and individuals), highlight the friendly atmosphere, neutrality and focus on the ICANN issues. The precedents of yesterday (and similar with the same participants) negates our efforts. I received a lot of questions from people yesterday – what is again going on and why is this acceptable? These are people who look at At-large, EURALO and at the opportunity to join. I hope that we have a future in this direction, but two phrases in chat can destroy the bridges we try to build.
5. We are here with the aim to be useful. What is behind the people who spread intrigues and scandals - only intrigues and scandals or real efficiency for At-Large?
6. Again: Nationalism, extremism are unacceptable things.The history of these personal attacks on me has a reason - I am Russian. I live in Russia.
These thoughts above relate not such cases only, more - the present and future of our community (EURALO and At-Large), our ability and desire to communicate, work, grow and develop together, to accept new active participants of the ICANN PDP, to meet Youth here. We should not scare people, sow the conflicts, crumble ourselves into molecules, subgroups and parties, can`t indulging aggressive people to play their games using our public events, involving the names of At-Large members, ICANN staff in personal fights and ruining the reputation of EURALO.
Thank you for reading this long text. Maybe we can find the answers together and ways to fix gaps. Yesterday I received a huge support from our community members.
Thank you very much my dear friends. Being here, to work and communicate with you is a real privilege and joy for me.
Sincerely, Natalia Filina
Secretary of EURALO https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo
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Thank you very much dear Chokri. The readout session was wonderful, thanks to the efforts of Sebastien, the guest speakers, the ICANN staff, translators and guests. Always nice to see you virtually or person. Best, Natalia пт, 7 окт. 2022 г., 11:52 Chokri Ben Romdhane <chokribr@gmail.com>:
Thank you @Natalia Filina <filinafilka@gmail.com> for the great session. Chokri
Le mer. 5 oct. 2022 à 19:05, Natalia Filina via EURO-Discuss < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> a écrit :
Dear Euralo Members,
I assume that not all of you followed the ICANN75 ReadOut by EURALO yesterday. It was, as always (thanks a lot to ICANN and Sebastien Bachollet) a friendly, constructive, useful readout. But there was an incident: in the comments in the chat (publicly) I received abuse from one of our members.
Yesterday I received questions and calls from some (many) of you and ICANN community members. That is why I am using this opportunity to write to you now not just as a member of the At-Large, but as a Secretary of EURALO with the aim to abstract from personalities and look at the (not the first one) incidents that happening inside of EURALO and possible consequences. I would like to share my thoughts and put some rhetorical questions:
1. Our communication with the outside world is our face, inner state, beauty or ugliness of our soul, our level of professionalism. The ability to maintain political correctness and avoid becoming personal and abusing is a skill and talent that we all can aspire to. At least to try.
2. The mission, goals and objectives of the At-Large community and operational rules provide the information about some kind of obligations. Unfortunately, work is not a goal for everyone here. Some are trying to earn PR and political points for themselves on the wave of acute topics and through personal attacks and abuse. These actions haven`t common goals with the working needs and our tasks. Time to time it has been happening since about 2013. But the experienced EURALO members and the reports of the Ombudsman will say more exactly, I may be mistaken. Names of participants are almost the same.
3. We all should follow the ICANN rules of behavior. But for someone these rules do mean nothing. Why? Are we not all equal? How long can someone be a source of constant conflict?
4. ICANN and At-Large spend significant resources (money, time, efforts) on the Mobilization, on Outreach and Engagement activities, the opportunity to establish local connections in the regions, attract more interested participants (ALSs and individuals), highlight the friendly atmosphere, neutrality and focus on the ICANN issues. The precedents of yesterday (and similar with the same participants) negates our efforts. I received a lot of questions from people yesterday – what is again going on and why is this acceptable? These are people who look at At-large, EURALO and at the opportunity to join. I hope that we have a future in this direction, but two phrases in chat can destroy the bridges we try to build.
5. We are here with the aim to be useful. What is behind the people who spread intrigues and scandals - only intrigues and scandals or real efficiency for At-Large?
6. Again: Nationalism, extremism are unacceptable things.The history of these personal attacks on me has a reason - I am Russian. I live in Russia.
These thoughts above relate not such cases only, more - the present and future of our community (EURALO and At-Large), our ability and desire to communicate, work, grow and develop together, to accept new active participants of the ICANN PDP, to meet Youth here. We should not scare people, sow the conflicts, crumble ourselves into molecules, subgroups and parties, can`t indulging aggressive people to play their games using our public events, involving the names of At-Large members, ICANN staff in personal fights and ruining the reputation of EURALO.
Thank you for reading this long text. Maybe we can find the answers together and ways to fix gaps. Yesterday I received a huge support from our community members.
Thank you very much my dear friends. Being here, to work and communicate with you is a real privilege and joy for me.
Sincerely, Natalia Filina
Secretary of EURALO https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo
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Chokri Ben Romdhane -
Eric Tomson -
Natalia Filina -
Oksana Prykhodko