Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon GA meeting minutes - posted
Dear Wolf, et all Kindly find the GA Minutes in the link below https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/2013+EURALO+General+Assembly+-+Su... I also created a child page entitled " EURALO Thematic Priorities defined at the Lisbon GA" . See https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+Thematic+Priorities+define... Kind regards, Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011 -----Original Message----- From: Wolf Ludwig [mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:19 PM To: Discussion for At-Large Europe; Annette Mühlberg Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; Oliver Passek Subject: Lisbon GA meeting minutes Dear all, as some of you have asked for this already, attached please find a copy of the meeting minutes from our Lisbon GA last week with an updated version of the thematic priorities (incl. additional names). Thanks again to Jordi who has taken all relevant notes from the GA to make the minutes quickly available (what would have been the job of the incumbent Secretariat BTW). Silvia will upload the minutes on our Workspace these days. Kind regards, Wolf EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
Dear Silvia, Thank you very much for posting GA Minutes on the web-site. I insist, that the words *There is no majority required as stated by EURALO’s bylaws (11.18 and 11.20), a second round (run-off vote) will be held online in a few days after the meeting.* were not said during GA and that is why have to be removed from minutes. Now, when recording is also on the web-site (thanks a lot to staff!) https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/40175046/20130619_EURALO_GA... everybody can check if I am right. Moreover, on the page EURALO Elections, Selections and Appointments 2013 https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+Elections%2C+Selections+an... there is the statement *Oksana Prykhodko selected* (at least there is at the moment of citing). Also I did not see any decision from "reviewing team", which was appointed at EURALO Board meeting: - at least three people will be nominated to review the bylaws until 2013-06-21 13:00 UTC - Jordi Iparraguirre - Oliver Passek - Yrö Länsipuro - Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond What does it mean? Dear Silvia, Thank you very much also for the creating of the new child page entitled " EURALO Thematic Priorities defined at the Lisbon GA". I think it's extremely important to create also the page "EURALO Officers' and Staff duties, rights and responsibilities". Have (or can) I to do it by myself, or I have to ask you to do it? Thank you very much in advance, Best regards, Oksana On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org>wrote:
Dear Wolf, et all
Kindly find the GA Minutes in the link below
https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/2013+EURALO+General+Assembly+-+Su...
I also created a child page entitled " EURALO Thematic Priorities defined at the Lisbon GA" . See
https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+Thematic+Priorities+define...
Kind regards,
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011
-----Original Message----- From: Wolf Ludwig [mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:19 PM To: Discussion for At-Large Europe; Annette Mühlberg Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; Oliver Passek Subject: Lisbon GA meeting minutes
Dear all,
as some of you have asked for this already, attached please find a copy of the meeting minutes from our Lisbon GA last week with an updated version of the thematic priorities (incl. additional names).
Thanks again to Jordi who has taken all relevant notes from the GA to make the minutes quickly available (what would have been the job of the incumbent Secretariat BTW). Silvia will upload the minutes on our Workspace these days.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
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Hi Oksana, Am 28.06.2013 06:25, schrieb EMP:
I insist, that the words *There is no majority required as stated by EURALO’s bylaws (11.18 and 11.20), a second round (run-off vote) will be held online in a few days after the meeting.* were not said during GA and that is why have to be removed from minutes.
this is now interfering with a discussion you already had with Wolf and the others yesterday on this very same list. There was some opposition and further remarks. So iterating the arguments doesn't get us anywhere. Instead, the board meet yesterday and decided (the minutes are currently being prepared, so please give Silvia some time to finish that first before she comes back to the minutes of the GA) to go another way. This statement will be removed because it has indeed not being said that way but another statement will be added that the election has been contested right after the GA, so the result is incompatible with the bylaws.
Moreover, on the page
EURALO Elections, Selections and Appointments 2013
https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+Elections%2C+Selections+an...
there is the statement
*Oksana Prykhodko selected* (at least there is at the moment of citing).
That was a false (too quick) update of that page by Silvia, not aware of the problems which have occured as she was not present in Lisbon. This might have to be corrected, based on the outcome of the current vote. Feel free to remove that statement.
Also I did not see any decision from "reviewing team", which was appointed at EURALO Board meeting: - at least three people will be nominated to review the bylaws until 2013-06-21 13:00 UTC - Jordi Iparraguirre - Oliver Passek - Yrö Länsipuro - Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond What does it mean?
That decision has been communicated internally (within the board), Olivier has sent two mails to Wolf on behalf of Oliver Passek, Jordi Iparraguirre, Stefan Hügel, him and me who sat together at Friday morning to the review together, Yrjö has communicated his opinion on 2013-06-22 on this mailing list. As the outcomes were unanimous across everyone who participated I am sure that your own review will lead to the same result. Just have a look at https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/Articles+of+Association Relevant article is 11.20. There are a few more findings in how we could improve the board composition and work in the future but those are not urgent - there is no incompatibility with what we do today and the bylaws except for the secretariat election. So we want to fix the urgent issue now to finally have a complete and working board, then we will take the time and come back later to improve. But please, let us get over this issue now. It is tense for everyone and I assume especially for those in the center of this conflict, you, Yulja and Wolf. /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch
Dear Manuel! It's great! I am happy and silenced - until Monday) (After it I would be happy to discuss all other issues regarding steps forward)))) Thank you very-very-very much! Best regards, Oksana On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Manuel Schneider < manuel.schneider@wikimedia.ch> wrote:
Hi Oksana,
Am 28.06.2013 06:25, schrieb EMP:
I insist, that the words *There is no majority required as stated by EURALO’s bylaws (11.18 and 11.20), a second round (run-off vote) will be held online in a few days after the meeting.* were not said during GA and that is why have to be removed from minutes.
this is now interfering with a discussion you already had with Wolf and the others yesterday on this very same list. There was some opposition and further remarks. So iterating the arguments doesn't get us anywhere.
Instead, the board meet yesterday and decided (the minutes are currently being prepared, so please give Silvia some time to finish that first before she comes back to the minutes of the GA) to go another way. This statement will be removed because it has indeed not being said that way but another statement will be added that the election has been contested right after the GA, so the result is incompatible with the bylaws.
Moreover, on the page
EURALO Elections, Selections and Appointments 2013
https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+Elections%2C+Selections+an...
there is the statement
*Oksana Prykhodko selected* (at least there is at the moment of citing).
That was a false (too quick) update of that page by Silvia, not aware of the problems which have occured as she was not present in Lisbon. This might have to be corrected, based on the outcome of the current vote.
Feel free to remove that statement.
Also I did not see any decision from "reviewing team", which was appointed at EURALO Board meeting: - at least three people will be nominated to review the bylaws until 2013-06-21 13:00 UTC - Jordi Iparraguirre - Oliver Passek - Yrö Länsipuro - Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond What does it mean?
That decision has been communicated internally (within the board), Olivier has sent two mails to Wolf on behalf of Oliver Passek, Jordi Iparraguirre, Stefan Hügel, him and me who sat together at Friday morning to the review together, Yrjö has communicated his opinion on 2013-06-22 on this mailing list.
As the outcomes were unanimous across everyone who participated I am sure that your own review will lead to the same result. Just have a look at https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/Articles+of+Association Relevant article is 11.20.
There are a few more findings in how we could improve the board composition and work in the future but those are not urgent - there is no incompatibility with what we do today and the bylaws except for the secretariat election. So we want to fix the urgent issue now to finally have a complete and working board, then we will take the time and come back later to improve.
But please, let us get over this issue now. It is tense for everyone and I assume especially for those in the center of this conflict, you, Yulja and Wolf.
/Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss
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On 28/06/2013 10:43, Manuel Schneider wrote:
*Oksana Prykhodko selected*
(at least there is at the moment of citing). That was a false (too quick) update of that page by Silvia, not aware of the problems which have occured as she was not present in Lisbon. This might have to be corrected, based on the outcome of the current vote.
Indeed -- and this was mentioned in the transcript too. However, all results are always subject to confirmation based on the bylaws. Since several members enquired about the result, this was suspended through a meeting of the Board that took place the next day. Kind regards, Olivier
Hi All, The two selection pages (EURALO and for At-Large) have been updated to reflect the current vote underway. Kind regards, Heidi -----Original Message----- From: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:40 AM To: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon GA meeting minutes - posted On 28/06/2013 10:43, Manuel Schneider wrote:
*Oksana Prykhodko selected*
(at least there is at the moment of citing). That was a false (too quick) update of that page by Silvia, not aware of the problems which have occured as she was not present in Lisbon. This might have to be corrected, based on the outcome of the current vote.
Indeed -- and this was mentioned in the transcript too. However, all results are always subject to confirmation based on the bylaws. Since several members enquired about the result, this was suspended through a meeting of the Board that took place the next day. Kind regards, Olivier _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
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