I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto Inviato da iPad
Remeber folks, it doesnt matter what acronym you call a conference or how many conferences you have, the progress from those conferences will continue to equal zero, the collective progress of ICANN's 55 conferences is zero, and the purpose of the conferences is the allusion of travel as progress so the people of earth continue to falsely believe 'somebody out there is in charge of making the world a better place, therefore I don't have to do anything', the acronyms are designed to confuse non-intelligent people who see any acronym and instantly (and lazily) believe it is all too confusing, therefore it must be 'for those official people' and not worth looking into. Thats how shell companies like 'the swiss group' succeed, by sounding official to the non-intelligent, but if you look into it, that shell company did zero business. After 55 conferences, name one thing people of the world can be expected to refer to as an important resolution to any problem at any internet conference, that goes for the G8, G20 any conference where billionaire appointed 'leaders' talk past each other, eat lavish meals, pretend to be making progress, and report to their populations that travel and meetings with each other was progress. Anybody remember the great G20 conference of '97? How about ICANN 20, great right? Remember the progress made at that one? Nope. Zero progress. Take a poll of the ICANN community on which conference was the best one in terms of progress, no one would know. Some think the solution to the internet is to take the power over it from the U.S. government, the actual solution is to make oligarchy illegal and re-establish democracy in America and other phony governments mismanaged by billionaire purchased puppets. Ron
I am in full agreement with Roberto. Best Sandra (Note: This message was sent from my iPhone - I do apologise for any misspelling.)
Am 09.04.2016 um 20:36 schrieb Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com>:
I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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@Roberto +1. Jean-Jacques. ----- Mail original ----- De: "sandra hoferichter" <info@hoferichter.eu> À: "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com> Cc: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Envoyé: Samedi 9 Avril 2016 23:37:56 Objet: Re: [EURO-Discuss] EURALO GA I am in full agreement with Roberto. Best Sandra (Note: This message was sent from my iPhone - I do apologise for any misspelling.)
Am 09.04.2016 um 20:36 schrieb Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com>:
I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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Where would the next AGM be in that case? CW On 10 Apr 2016, at 11:10, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs@dyalog.net> wrote:
@Roberto +1. Jean-Jacques.
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Am 09.04.2016 um 20:36 schrieb Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com>:
I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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I support Roberto´s Approach. If we have a regular ICANN mreeting in Europe, EURALO should have ist annual (organisational) Meeting within the official ICANN Meeting. In 2017 (March) there will be another ICANN meeting in Europe (Copenhagen). EURODIG in 2016 (Brussels) and 2017 (Tallin) could be used as EURALO Outreach Meeting. Wolfgang -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org im Auftrag von Christopher Wilkinson Gesendet: So 10.04.2016 12:16 An: sandra hoferichter; JEAN-JACQUES SUBRENAT Cc: Discussion for At-Large Europe Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] EURALO GA Where would the next AGM be in that case? CW On 10 Apr 2016, at 11:10, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs@dyalog.net> wrote:
@Roberto +1. Jean-Jacques.
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I am in full agreement with Roberto.
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Am 09.04.2016 um 20:36 schrieb Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com>:
I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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I assume Helsinki, June 2016. R Inviato da iPad
Il giorno 10.04.2016, alle ore 07:24, Christopher Wilkinson <cw@christopherwilkinson.eu> ha scritto:
Where would the next AGM be in that case?
CW
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@Roberto +1. Jean-Jacques.
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I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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@Roberto +1 Mikhail Medrish 2016-04-09 21:36 GMT+03:00 Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com>:
I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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totally agree + 1 Annette Am 11.04.2016 um 16:14 schrieb Mikhail Medrish:
@Roberto +1
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I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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Fully agree: EURALO members are primarily responsible for European At Large input to ICANN at all levels. Best to get as many as possible to go to Helsinki. Notwithstanding, looking forward to seeing everyone at EuroDIG in Brussels 9-10 June! Regards Christopher On 24 Apr 2016, at 19:22, Annette Muehlberg <egov@annette-muehlberg.de> wrote:
totally agree + 1 Annette
Am 11.04.2016 um 16:14 schrieb Mikhail Medrish:
@Roberto +1
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2016-04-09 21:36 GMT+03:00 Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com <mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com>>:
I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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Hello everyone, this is to let you know that due to popular request, this year's General Assembly (GA) will take place at the ICANN meeting in Helsinki. I have asked At-Large Staff to give us 2 hours for the GA. Will that be enough? I also need to remind you that having a GA does *not* mean that ALS representatives will be funded to attend the ICANN meeting in Helsinki. We were funded last year for Dublin. On the contrary, this year, I expect the majority of participants to join in remotely. Kindest regards, Olivier On 24/04/2016 21:03, Christopher Wilkinson wrote:
Fully agree: EURALO members are primarily responsible for European At Large input to ICANN at all levels. Best to get as many as possible to go to Helsinki. Notwithstanding, looking forward to seeing everyone at EuroDIG in Brussels 9-10 June!
Regards
Christopher
On 24 Apr 2016, at 19:22, Annette Muehlberg <egov@annette-muehlberg.de> wrote:
totally agree + 1 Annette
Am 11.04.2016 um 16:14 schrieb Mikhail Medrish:
@Roberto +1
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I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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I support that. Am 09.04.16 um 20:36 schrieb Roberto Gaetano:
I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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Also support Roberto proposition. Best regards, Oksana On Apr 12, 2016 8:09 AM, "Jimmy Schulz" <jimmy.schulz@load-ev.de> wrote:
I support that.
Am 09.04.16 um 20:36 schrieb Roberto Gaetano:
I understand that there is a discussion ongoing about the location of this year's GA, at EuroDIG or ICANN. My personal opinion is that we should hold the GA at ICANN meetings in the years when there is an ICANN meeting in Europe, and at EuroDIG (or other appropriate venue, if any) in the other years. To be at ICANN meetings gives the opportunity to participate to the policy development process in a better way than by remote access, and the interaction with other participants will be very beneficial. This has been clear for me also attending Marrakesh, when ALAC newcomers, in particular some NGOs of the region, had the opportunity to interact F2F with other stakeholders of the ICANN family. Cheers, Roberto
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"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" -
Annette Muehlberg -
Christopher Wilkinson -
Jimmy Schulz -
Mikhail Medrish -
Oksana Prykhodko -
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond -
Roberto Gaetano -
Ron Baione -
sandra hoferichter -
Subrenat, Jean-Jacques