RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Dear Clement, Thank you for your email. Your nomination is recorded. Thank you. Kind regards, Claudia Ruiz From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info> Date: Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 2:49 PM To: Erich Schweighofer <erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at> Cc: EURALO Discuss <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear all, I would like to nominate Olivier Bachollet for ALAC NOMCOM 20-21. Olivier was attending AtLaS III at ICANN66 and as he is young, he represents the future of the Internet. It is obviously a surprise nomination but I definitely hope that he is going to accept it. Olivier, you have my full support. Clement -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France www.genty.info [genty.info]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.genty.info&d=DwMFaQ&...>
Clement, Mes 2 cents: Je suis contre toute discrimination, et donc aussi contre la discrimination en raison de l'appartenance à une famille (ici: Bachollet). Le mérite compte .... Cordialement Erich ao. Univ.-Prof. Mag. DDr. Erich Schweighofer Arbeitsgruppe Rechtsinformatik / Group Legal Informatics Institut für Europarecht, Internationales Recht und Rechtsvergleichung / Department of European, International and Comparative Law Universität Wien / University of Vienna, Schottenbastei 10-16/2/5, 1010 Wien, AT Tel. +43 1 4277 35305, Fax +43 1 4277 9353; Erich.Schweighofer@univie.ac.at<mailto:Erich.Schweighofer@univie.ac.at>, https://rechtsinformatik.univie.ac.at IRIS 21: https://www.univie.ac.at/RI/IRIS21 Bitte um Beiträge ReMeP 2021: https://www.remep.net/ Bitte um Projekte Von: Claudia Ruiz<mailto:claudia.ruiz@icann.org> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 03:03 An: Dr Clement Genty<mailto:Clement@Genty.info>; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear Clement, Thank you for your email. Your nomination is recorded. Thank you. Kind regards, Claudia Ruiz From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info> Date: Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 2:49 PM To: Erich Schweighofer <erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at> Cc: EURALO Discuss <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear all, I would like to nominate Olivier Bachollet for ALAC NOMCOM 20-21. Olivier was attending AtLaS III at ICANN66 and as he is young, he represents the future of the Internet. It is obviously a surprise nomination but I definitely hope that he is going to accept it. Olivier, you have my full support. Clement -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France www.genty.info [genty.info]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.genty.info&d=DwMFaQ&...>
Le 08.05.2020 03:41, Erich Schweighofer a écrit :
Clement,
Mes 2 cents:
Je suis contre toute discrimination, et donc aussi contre la discrimination en raison de l'appartenance à une famille (ici: Bachollet). Le mérite compte ....
Cordialement
Erich
ao. Univ.-Prof. Mag. DDr. Erich Schweighofer Arbeitsgruppe Rechtsinformatik / Group Legal Informatics Institut für Europarecht, Internationales Recht und Rechtsvergleichung / Department of European, International and Comparative Law Universität Wien / University of Vienna, Schottenbastei 10-16/2/5, 1010 Wien, AT Tel. +43 1 4277 35305, Fax +43 1 4277 9353; Erich.Schweighofer@univie.ac.at, https://rechtsinformatik.univie.ac.at [1]
IRIS 21: https://www.univie.ac.at/RI/IRIS21 Bitte um Beiträge ReMeP 2021: https://www.remep.net/ [2] Bitte um Projekte
Von: Claudia Ruiz Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 03:03 An: Dr Clement Genty; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Dear Clement,
Thank you for your email. Your nomination is recorded.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Claudia Ruiz
From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info> Date: Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 2:49 PM To: Erich Schweighofer <erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at> Cc: EURALO Discuss <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Dear all,
I would like to nominate Olivier Bachollet for ALAC NOMCOM 20-21.
Olivier was attending AtLaS III at ICANN66 and as he is young, he represents the future of the Internet.
It is obviously a surprise nomination but I definitely hope that he is going to accept it. Olivier, you have my full support.
Clement
--
Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France
www.genty.info [genty.info] [3]
Bonjour Erich, Oui, tu as raison. J'ai rencontré Olivier à Montreal et je me porte garant de son aptitude. Le but d'AtlasIII était bien de _push forward_ de nouveaux membres vers des fonctions plus opérationnelles ? C'est ce que je fais. NB: la liste est ici: https://community.icann.org/display/ATLAS3/ATLAS+III+Funded+Travelers -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France www.genty.info [4] Links: ------ [1] https://rechtsinformatik.univie.ac.at [2] https://www.remep.net/ [3] https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.genty.info&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=71fjFA9PwUQciorknatdNhoMkylNm_kmcCNBugSM0Eo&s=0Z6tCNTnsBFJ3C2KcROy2S2_Ikws1SLcCK8tg1texmo&e= [4] http://www.genty.info
Dear all, please don’t misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don’t get from a distance. On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so. The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN. Lets use this power wisely! My two cents Sandra Von: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Im Auftrag von Dr Clement Genty Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 12:34 An: Erich Schweighofer <erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at> Cc: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Le 08.05.2020 03:41, Erich Schweighofer a écrit : Clement, Mes 2 cents: Je suis contre toute discrimination, et donc aussi contre la discrimination en raison de l'appartenance à une famille (ici: Bachollet). Le mérite compte .... Cordialement Erich ao. Univ.-Prof. Mag. DDr. Erich Schweighofer Arbeitsgruppe Rechtsinformatik / Group Legal Informatics Institut für Europarecht, Internationales Recht und Rechtsvergleichung / Department of European, International and Comparative Law Universität Wien / University of Vienna, Schottenbastei 10-16/2/5, 1010 Wien, AT Tel. +43 1 4277 35305, Fax +43 1 4277 9353; Erich.Schweighofer@univie.ac.at <mailto:Erich.Schweighofer@univie.ac.at> , https://rechtsinformatik.univie.ac.at IRIS 21: https://www.univie.ac.at/RI/IRIS21 Bitte um Beiträge ReMeP 2021: <https://www.remep.net/> https://www.remep.net/ Bitte um Projekte Von: Claudia Ruiz <mailto:claudia.ruiz@icann.org> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 03:03 An: Dr Clement Genty <mailto:Clement@Genty.info> ; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear Clement, Thank you for your email. Your nomination is recorded. Thank you. Kind regards, Claudia Ruiz From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > on behalf of Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info <mailto:Clement@Genty.info> > Date: Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 2:49 PM To: Erich Schweighofer <erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at <mailto:erich.schweighofer@univie.ac.at> > Cc: EURALO Discuss <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear all, I would like to nominate Olivier Bachollet for ALAC NOMCOM 20-21. Olivier was attending AtLaS III at ICANN66 and as he is young, he represents the future of the Internet. It is obviously a surprise nomination but I definitely hope that he is going to accept it. Olivier, you have my full support. Clement -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.genty.info&d=DwMFaQ&...> www.genty.info [genty.info] Bonjour Erich, Oui, tu as raison. J'ai rencontré Olivier à Montreal et je me porte garant de son aptitude. Le but d'AtlasIII était bien de push forward de nouveaux membres vers des fonctions plus opérationnelles ? C'est ce que je fais. NB: la liste est ici: https://community.icann.org/display/ATLAS3/ATLAS+III+Funded+Travelers -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France <http://www.genty.info> www.genty.info
Hi Sandra, Hi All, Is think that we have an interesting point here: Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new? If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory? By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge? Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others! This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience. And it is quite working :-) My two cents, Clement Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu a écrit :
Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance.
On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so.
The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN.
Lets use this power wisely!
My two cents
Sandra
-- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France www.genty.info [1] Links: ------ [1] http://www.genty.info
Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input. Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. Best Sandra Von: Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 An: info@hoferichter.eu Cc: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Sandra, Hi All, Is think that we have an interesting point here: Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new? If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory? By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge? Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others! This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience. And it is quite working My two cents, Clement Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> a écrit : Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance. On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so. The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN. Lets use this power wisely! My two cents Sandra -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France <http://www.genty.info> www.genty.info
interesting! what is important for the futur of all ALS? regards ALS EURALO/LACRALO -AT-LARGE STRUCTURE .gp FELLOW ICANN61 - ICANN65 -GNSO IRT EPDP MEMBER CPWG AT LARGE POLICY [ ARIN FELLOW 2019 AUSTIN Mobile : +590 (0) 690 4973 09 (Guadeloupe) Contacts : Skype twitter insta BETFAU | bf@ipeos.com De: info@hoferichter.eu À: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Envoyé: Vendredi 8 Mai 2020 07:31:37 Objet: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input. Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. Best Sandra Von: Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 An: info@hoferichter.eu Cc: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Sandra, Hi All, Is think that we have an interesting point here: Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new? If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory? By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge? Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others! This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience. And it is quite working My two cents, Clement Le 08.05.2020 12:48, [ mailto:info@hoferichter.eu | info@hoferichter.eu ] a écrit : Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance. On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so. The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN. Lets use this power wisely! My two cents Sandra -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France [ http://www.genty.info/ | www.genty.info ] _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Dear All, As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates. IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria. * Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO). * Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring). * Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking). * Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media * Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings. * Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important. Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding. Kind regards, Heidi From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu> Date: Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM To: "euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input. Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. Best Sandra Von: Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 An: info@hoferichter.eu Cc: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Sandra, Hi All, Is think that we have an interesting point here: Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new? If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory? By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge? Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others! This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience. And it is quite working [smile] My two cents, Clement Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> a écrit : Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance. On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so. The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN. Lets use this power wisely! My two cents Sandra -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France www.genty.info [genty.info]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.genty.info&d=DwMFaQ&...>
Dear All, thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC. I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM. All the best Annette Von: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Im Auftrag von Heidi Ullrich Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 An: info@hoferichter.eu; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear All, As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates. IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria. * Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO). * Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring). * Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking). * Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media * Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings. * Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important. Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding. Kind regards, Heidi From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>> Date: Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM To: "euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input. Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. Best Sandra Von: Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info<mailto:Clement@Genty.info>> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 An: info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> Cc: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Sandra, Hi All, Is think that we have an interesting point here: Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new? If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory? By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge? Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others! This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience. And it is quite working [smile] My two cents, Clement Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> a écrit : Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance. On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so. The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN. Lets use this power wisely! My two cents Sandra -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France www.genty.info [genty.info]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.genty.info&d=DwMFaQ&...>
Thank you Heidi, for re-posting. Later on I saw it was also further down the original announcement. To bring more light into the criteria’s I share with you the number of hours I spent on NomCom from November 2016 when I took seat until June 2018 when our work was finished. You can deduct, let’s say 30 h per year, for my work on the ICANN Academy – but the rest was only NomCom related work. Wolfgang who is currently on the NomCom for NCUC reports a similar number. That might help candidates to understand a bit better how much work load it entails. Whilst I fully agree to bring in newcomers to the ALAC - the delegation to NomCom is a senior position and needs more than 2-3 ICANN Meeting experiences. Therefore I whole heartily support Annette’s proposal to nominate Bastiaan Goslings! He hast two terms of ALAC experience (6 years) and has in addition a big foot in the technical community. Best Sandra Von: Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:16 An: Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org>; info@hoferichter.eu; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> Betreff: AW: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear All, thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC. I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM. All the best Annette Von: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Im Auftrag von Heidi Ullrich Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 An: info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> ; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear All, As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates. IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria. * Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO). * Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring). * Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking). * Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media * Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings. * Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important. Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding. Kind regards, Heidi From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> > Date: Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM To: "euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> " <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input. Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. Best Sandra Von: Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info <mailto:Clement@Genty.info> > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 An: info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> Cc: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Sandra, Hi All, Is think that we have an interesting point here: Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new? If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory? By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge? Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others! This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience. And it is quite working My two cents, Clement Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> a écrit : Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance. On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so. The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN. Lets use this power wisely! My two cents Sandra -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.genty.info&d=DwMFaQ&...> www.genty.info [genty.info]
Dear all, as an individual member of EURALO and as someone who has been involved with ICANN for quite some time, I would like to fully and vocally support the nomination of Bastiaan for the NomCom. What Sandra said is very much true: NomCom is not for the newcomers or for those who have been around for a couple of years. NomCom selects people for positions that are crucial for the functioning of the organizations. From outreach to various parts of the community to understand how the Board, GNSO, ccNSO function, and being able to actually carry out the interviews and deliberate -- it is absolutely essential that the person is mature and experienced and has a proven track record of devoting significant time to ICANN and actively participating in the community. One needs to understand how community works, what skills are needed for positions, and be able to assess the applicants of quite a senior level. Bastiaan's technical and policy experience, his involvement in both ICANN (and his proven track record of active participation) and a broader internet community make him a great candidate that can really represent EURALO and At-Large community "At-Large" on NomCom. So, thanks to Annette for the nomination, this is a great one. Warm regards, Tatiana Tropina On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 22:52, <info@hoferichter.eu> wrote:
Thank you Heidi, for re-posting. Later on I saw it was also further down the original announcement.
To bring more light into the criteria’s I share with you the number of hours I spent on NomCom from November 2016 when I took seat until June 2018 when our work was finished. You can deduct, let’s say 30 h per year, for my work on the ICANN Academy – but the rest was only NomCom related work. Wolfgang who is currently on the NomCom for NCUC reports a similar number. That might help candidates to understand a bit better how much work load it entails.
Whilst I fully agree to bring in newcomers to the ALAC - the delegation to NomCom is a senior position and needs more than 2-3 ICANN Meeting experiences.
Therefore I whole heartily support Annette’s proposal to nominate Bastiaan Goslings! He hast two terms of ALAC experience (6 years) and has in addition a big foot in the technical community.
Best Sandra
*Von:* Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:16 *An:* Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org>; info@hoferichter.eu; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org *Cc:* Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> *Betreff:* AW: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Dear All,
thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria.
As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC.
I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM.
All the best
Annette
*Von:* EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Im Auftrag von *Heidi Ullrich *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 *An:* info@hoferichter.eu; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Dear All,
As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates.
*IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates*The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria.
· Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO).
· Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring).
· Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking).
· Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media
· Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings.
· Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important.
Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding.
Kind regards,
Heidi
*From: *EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu> *Date: *Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM *To: *"euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input.
Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community.
Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list.
Best Sandra
*Von:* Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 *An:* info@hoferichter.eu *Cc:* euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Hi Sandra, Hi All,
Is think that we have an interesting point here:
Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new?
If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory?
By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge?
Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others!
This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience.
And it is quite working [image: smile]
My two cents,
Clement
Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu a écrit :
Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance.
On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so.
The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN.
Lets use this power wisely!
My two cents
Sandra
--
Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France
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+1 As a Euralo Individual Association member, I agree with Tatiana and support Bastiaan for the NomCom. Regards/Pozdrav, Danko Jevtović <mailto:danko@jevtovic.rs> danko@jevtovic.rs <http://www.jevtovic.rs/> http://www.jevtovic.rs/ fb.com/dankoj <http://fb.com/dankoj> linkedin.com/in/dankoj <https://www.linkedin.com/in/dankoj> twitter.com/dankoj <http://twitter.com/dankoj> Skype:callto:dankoj USA: (702)487.9966 <tel:+17024879966> mobile: +381-(0)65/349-6666 <tel:+381653496666> The opinions expressed above are those of the author, not of any organizations, associated with or related to him in any given way. Stavovi iskazani u ovoj poruci su lično mišljenje pošiljaoca i ne predstavljaju stavove nijedne organizacije sa kojom je povezan na bilo koji način. From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> On Behalf Of Tatiana Tropina Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 11:14 PM To: sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu> Cc: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear all, as an individual member of EURALO and as someone who has been involved with ICANN for quite some time, I would like to fully and vocally support the nomination of Bastiaan for the NomCom. What Sandra said is very much true: NomCom is not for the newcomers or for those who have been around for a couple of years. NomCom selects people for positions that are crucial for the functioning of the organizations. From outreach to various parts of the community to understand how the Board, GNSO, ccNSO function, and being able to actually carry out the interviews and deliberate -- it is absolutely essential that the person is mature and experienced and has a proven track record of devoting significant time to ICANN and actively participating in the community. One needs to understand how community works, what skills are needed for positions, and be able to assess the applicants of quite a senior level. Bastiaan's technical and policy experience, his involvement in both ICANN (and his proven track record of active participation) and a broader internet community make him a great candidate that can really represent EURALO and At-Large community "At-Large" on NomCom. So, thanks to Annette for the nomination, this is a great one. Warm regards, Tatiana Tropina On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 22:52, <info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> > wrote: Thank you Heidi, for re-posting. Later on I saw it was also further down the original announcement. To bring more light into the criteria’s I share with you the number of hours I spent on NomCom from November 2016 when I took seat until June 2018 when our work was finished. You can deduct, let’s say 30 h per year, for my work on the ICANN Academy – but the rest was only NomCom related work. Wolfgang who is currently on the NomCom for NCUC reports a similar number. That might help candidates to understand a bit better how much work load it entails. Whilst I fully agree to bring in newcomers to the ALAC - the delegation to NomCom is a senior position and needs more than 2-3 ICANN Meeting experiences. Therefore I whole heartily support Annette’s proposal to nominate Bastiaan Goslings! He hast two terms of ALAC experience (6 years) and has in addition a big foot in the technical community. Best Sandra Von: Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de <mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de> > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:16 An: Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org <mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org> >; info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> ; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> > Betreff: AW: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear All, thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC. I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM. All the best Annette Von: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Im Auftrag von Heidi Ullrich Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 An: info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> ; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear All, As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates. IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria. * Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO). * Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring). * Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking). * Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media * Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings. * Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important. Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding. Kind regards, Heidi From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> > Date: Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM To: "euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> " <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input. Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. Best Sandra Von: Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info <mailto:Clement@Genty.info> > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 An: info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> Cc: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Sandra, Hi All, Is think that we have an interesting point here: Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new? If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory? By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge? Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others! This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience. And it is quite working My two cents, Clement Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> a écrit : Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance. On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so. The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN. Lets use this power wisely! My two cents Sandra -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.genty.info&d=DwMFaQ&...> www.genty.info [genty.info] _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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I totally agree with Tatiana, and strongly support Bastiaan. Julf On 08-05-2020 23:13, Tatiana Tropina wrote:
Dear all,
as an individual member of EURALO and as someone who has been involved with ICANN for quite some time, I would like to fully and vocally support the nomination of Bastiaan for the NomCom. What Sandra said is very much true: NomCom is not for the newcomers or for those who have been around for a couple of years. NomCom selects people for positions that are crucial for the functioning of the organizations. From outreach to various parts of the community to understand how the Board, GNSO, ccNSO function, and being able to actually carry out the interviews and deliberate -- it is absolutely essential that the person is mature and experienced and has a proven track record of devoting significant time to ICANN and actively participating in the community. One needs to understand how community works, what skills are needed for positions, and be able to assess the applicants of quite a senior level. Bastiaan's technical and policy experience, his involvement in both ICANN (and his proven track record of active participation) and a broader internet community make him a great candidate that can really represent EURALO and At-Large community "At-Large" on NomCom. So, thanks to Annette for the nomination, this is a great one.
Warm regards, Tatiana Tropina
On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 22:52, <info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>> wrote:
Thank you Heidi, for re-posting. Later on I saw it was also further down the original announcement.____
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To bring more light into the criteria’s I share with you the number of hours I spent on NomCom from November 2016 when I took seat until June 2018 when our work was finished. You can deduct, let’s say 30 h per year, for my work on the ICANN Academy – but the rest was only NomCom related work. Wolfgang who is currently on the NomCom for NCUC reports a similar number. That might help candidates to understand a bit better how much work load it entails.____
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Whilst I fully agree to bring in newcomers to the ALAC - the delegation to NomCom is a senior position and needs more than 2-3 ICANN Meeting experiences. ____
__ __
Therefore I whole heartily support Annette’s proposal to nominate Bastiaan Goslings! He hast two terms of ALAC experience (6 years) and has in addition a big foot in the technical community.____
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Best Sandra____
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*Von:*Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de <mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:16 *An:* Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org <mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org>>; info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Cc:* Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>> *Betreff:* AW: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____
__ __
Dear All,____
thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. ____
As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC.____
I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM.____
All the best____
Annette____
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*Von:* EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Im Auftrag von *Heidi Ullrich *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 *An:* info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____
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Dear All, ____
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As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates. ____
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_IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates
_The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria.____
__· __Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO).____
__· __Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring).____
__· __Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking).____
__· __Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media____
__· __Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings.____
__· __Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important.____
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Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding.____
__ __
Kind regards,____
Heidi____
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*From: *EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>> *Date: *Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM *To: *"euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Subject: *Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____
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Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input.____
Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. ____
Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. ____
Best Sandra____
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*Von:* Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info <mailto:Clement@Genty.info>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 *An:* info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> *Cc:* euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____
____
Hi Sandra, Hi All,____
Is think that we have an interesting point here:____
Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new?____
If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory?____
By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge?____
Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others!____
This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience.____
And it is quite working smile____
My two cents,____
Clement____
____
Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> a écrit :____
Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance.____
On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so.____
____
The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN.____
Lets use this power wisely!____
____
My two cents____
Sandra ____
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-- ____
Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France____
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Dear all, From the perspective of my six NomCom years, I strongly support the arguments of Sandra,Tatiana &al about the need of experience in NomCom, and support Bastiaan for the job. Best, Yrjö On 9. May 2020, at 9.42, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com<mailto:julf@julf.com>> wrote: I totally agree with Tatiana, and strongly support Bastiaan. Julf On 08-05-2020 23:13, Tatiana Tropina wrote: Dear all, as an individual member of EURALO and as someone who has been involved with ICANN for quite some time, I would like to fully and vocally support the nomination of Bastiaan for the NomCom. What Sandra said is very much true: NomCom is not for the newcomers or for those who have been around for a couple of years. NomCom selects people for positions that are crucial for the functioning of the organizations. From outreach to various parts of the community to understand how the Board, GNSO, ccNSO function, and being able to actually carry out the interviews and deliberate -- it is absolutely essential that the person is mature and experienced and has a proven track record of devoting significant time to ICANN and actively participating in the community. One needs to understand how community works, what skills are needed for positions, and be able to assess the applicants of quite a senior level. Bastiaan's technical and policy experience, his involvement in both ICANN (and his proven track record of active participation) and a broader internet community make him a great candidate that can really represent EURALO and At-Large community "At-Large" on NomCom. So, thanks to Annette for the nomination, this is a great one. Warm regards, Tatiana Tropina On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 22:52, <info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>> wrote: Thank you Heidi, for re-posting. Later on I saw it was also further down the original announcement.____ __ __ To bring more light into the criteria’s I share with you the number of hours I spent on NomCom from November 2016 when I took seat until June 2018 when our work was finished. You can deduct, let’s say 30 h per year, for my work on the ICANN Academy – but the rest was only NomCom related work. Wolfgang who is currently on the NomCom for NCUC reports a similar number. That might help candidates to understand a bit better how much work load it entails.____ __ __ Whilst I fully agree to bring in newcomers to the ALAC - the delegation to NomCom is a senior position and needs more than 2-3 ICANN Meeting experiences. ____ __ __ Therefore I whole heartily support Annette’s proposal to nominate Bastiaan Goslings! He hast two terms of ALAC experience (6 years) and has in addition a big foot in the technical community.____ __ __ Best Sandra____ __ __ __ __ *Von:*Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de<mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de> <mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:16 *An:* Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org<mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org> <mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org>>; info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Cc:* Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net<mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>> *Betreff:* AW: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ __ __ Dear All,____ thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. ____ As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC.____ I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM.____ All the best____ Annette____ __ __ *Von:* EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Im Auftrag von *Heidi Ullrich *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 *An:* info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ __ __ Dear All, ____ __ __ As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates. ____ __ __ _IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates _The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria.____ __· __Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO).____ __· __Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring).____ __· __Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking).____ __· __Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media____ __· __Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings.____ __· __Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important.____ __ __ Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding.____ __ __ Kind regards,____ Heidi____ __ __ __ __ *From: *EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>> *Date: *Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM *To: *"euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Subject: *Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ __ __ Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input.____ Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. ____ Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. ____ Best Sandra____ ____ ____ ____ *Von:* Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info<mailto:Clement@Genty.info> <mailto:Clement@Genty.info>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. 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Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge?____ Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others!____ This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience.____ And it is quite working smile____ My two cents,____ Clement____ ____ Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> a écrit :____ Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance.____ On top it is a very time consuming task. 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And I, as a former member of the ICANN Board, also support the arguments from Sandra, Tatian, Yrjö et al. Best regards, Jean-Jacques. Le 9 mai 2020 à 10:31:06, Yrjö Länsipuro (yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com) a écrit: Dear all, From the perspective of my six NomCom years, I strongly support the arguments of Sandra,Tatiana &al about the need of experience in NomCom, and support Bastiaan for the job. Best, Yrjö On 9. May 2020, at 9.42, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote: I totally agree with Tatiana, and strongly support Bastiaan. Julf On 08-05-2020 23:13, Tatiana Tropina wrote: Dear all, as an individual member of EURALO and as someone who has been involved with ICANN for quite some time, I would like to fully and vocally support the nomination of Bastiaan for the NomCom. What Sandra said is very much true: NomCom is not for the newcomers or for those who have been around for a couple of years. NomCom selects people for positions that are crucial for the functioning of the organizations. From outreach to various parts of the community to understand how the Board, GNSO, ccNSO function, and being able to actually carry out the interviews and deliberate -- it is absolutely essential that the person is mature and experienced and has a proven track record of devoting significant time to ICANN and actively participating in the community. One needs to understand how community works, what skills are needed for positions, and be able to assess the applicants of quite a senior level. Bastiaan's technical and policy experience, his involvement in both ICANN (and his proven track record of active participation) and a broader internet community make him a great candidate that can really represent EURALO and At-Large community "At-Large" on NomCom. So, thanks to Annette for the nomination, this is a great one. Warm regards, Tatiana Tropina On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 22:52, <info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>> wrote: Thank you Heidi, for re-posting. Later on I saw it was also further down the original announcement.____ __ __ To bring more light into the criteria’s I share with you the number of hours I spent on NomCom from November 2016 when I took seat until June 2018 when our work was finished. You can deduct, let’s say 30 h per year, for my work on the ICANN Academy – but the rest was only NomCom related work. Wolfgang who is currently on the NomCom for NCUC reports a similar number. That might help candidates to understand a bit better how much work load it entails.____ __ __ Whilst I fully agree to bring in newcomers to the ALAC - the delegation to NomCom is a senior position and needs more than 2-3 ICANN Meeting experiences. ____ __ __ Therefore I whole heartily support Annette’s proposal to nominate Bastiaan Goslings! He hast two terms of ALAC experience (6 years) and has in addition a big foot in the technical community.____ __ __ Best Sandra____ __ __ __ __ *Von:*Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de <mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:16 *An:* Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org <mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org>>; info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Cc:* Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>> *Betreff:* AW: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ __ __ Dear All,____ thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. ____ As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC.____ I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM.____ All the best____ Annette____ __ __ *Von:* EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Im Auftrag von *Heidi Ullrich *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 *An:* info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ __ __ Dear All, ____ __ __ As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates. ____ __ __ _IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates _The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria.____ __· __Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO).____ __· __Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring).____ __· __Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking).____ __· __Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media____ __· __Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings.____ __· __Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important.____ __ __ Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding.____ __ __ Kind regards,____ Heidi____ __ __ __ __ *From: *EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>> *Date: *Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM *To: *"euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Subject: *Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ __ __ Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input.____ Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. ____ Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. ____ Best Sandra____ ____ ____ ____ *Von:* Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info <mailto:Clement@Genty.info>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 *An:* info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> *Cc:* euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ ____ Hi Sandra, Hi All,____ Is think that we have an interesting point here:____ Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new?____ If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory?____ By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge?____ Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others!____ This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience.____ And it is quite working smile____ My two cents,____ Clement____ ____ Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> a écrit :____ Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. 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I would like to support Bastiaan Thanks, —andrei пт, 8 мая 2020 г. в 22:28, Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de>:
Dear All,
thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria.
As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC.
I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM.
All the best
Annette
*Von:* EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Im Auftrag von *Heidi Ullrich *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 *An:* info@hoferichter.eu; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Dear All,
As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates.
*IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates *The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria.
- Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO). - Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring). - Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking). - Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media - Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings. - Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important.
Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding.
Kind regards,
Heidi
*From: *EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu> *Date: *Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM *To: *"euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" < euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input.
Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community.
Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list.
Best Sandra
*Von:* Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 *An:* info@hoferichter.eu *Cc:* euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Hi Sandra, Hi All,
Is think that we have an interesting point here:
Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new?
If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory?
By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge?
Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others!
This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience.
And it is quite working [image: smile]
My two cents,
Clement
Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu a écrit :
Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance.
On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so.
The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN.
Lets use this power wisely!
My two cents
Sandra
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Dear Sandra, dear all, thanks for the very interesting discussion with high quality. It shows a vitality of EURALO I did not expect but I am highly happy to notice. The multi-stakeholder approach is working because energy is activated and contributes to a strong outcome of the decision. Thus, “institutional” representatives in ICANN should be slightly “worried” about this fact. The lobbying work is a chaotic one but after a while you see the organisational structure and its dynamics. Multi-stakeholder is stronger. It the people’s mind, its perceptions, particular aims and more that energy is available energizing others and – after some discussion – establishes a decision culture with an edge even desired by corporate HR. Then, the decision is executed with passion. The position of a NOMCOM delegate is an interesting and important one, and one taking huge resources on time (meetings, now calls) but also preparations and learning the whole process. I like “Schnapsen”, Poker and chess and I have some natural talent in these games. Highly helpful! NOMCOM is a Poker game in the very end. You should know what is happening, playing the page properly and being polite even if disinformation, hidden agendas, lobbying and deals blur the view of the decision process. Only in the very end – when everything is too late – the cards are on the table. Thus, Sandra is very right – you need strong experience In ICANN or similar environments. Universities are an excellent training. Disinformation, intrigue, lobbying, deals (the famous “citation leagues”) etc. show the intellectual challenge, mastery of the game, patience, coolness and – most important of it – oversight of a general in a battle (see Clausewitz or – even better – the information policy and its edngagement of the necessities of the man of Archduke Marie-Louise, much better known by the arrogated title of Emporeur des Francaises (sorry, Frenchies, but somehow jokes about former monarchy should be not only possible but a thing to do in order to get rid of the virtual particularity of monarchs that is a myth and not reality; we in Austria read Joseph Roth for this purpose (the man given asylum in Paris from the Nacies) writing in a highly nice and actually very critical view of the emperor Franz Josef I( a real non-intellectual, high sense of duty, no transparency, asymmetric policy on sexual relations of his family etc. . Getting to know what is happening and knowing how the move the tanker, that is the intellectual work required. You are in a hot seat and have to deliver in short time. Im am still very grateful to Sandra and, in particular Leah Symekhe, Alain Bidron and Tracy Hackshaw, giving me insights and learning on the NOMCOM. Thus, in the very end, I see three good candidates. Anne-Marie, Baastian and Matthias. Anne-Marie is an insider but not never „waged the dog“ as far as I can see. Maybe I am expecting too much. Matthias is a very strong academic but may have insufficient time to handle the micromanagement of complex groups. Time will solve this issue. Basstian is a good choice, a strong insider and if he had the time, he is a really strong candidate. Kindest regards – also to my fourth Mentor for the NomCom Job – Olivier C-L. Sometimes I cursed him considering me because of the work load (the „Duty“) and the intellectual challenge („the Cure“). Now, I survived and am grateful to Olivier. But I had a hard time for a while with a challenging learning courve. Erich (with some sleeping problems but hopefully productive ones) ao. Univ.-Prof. Mag. DDr. Erich Schweighofer Arbeitsgruppe Rechtsinformatik / Group Legal Informatics Institut für Europarecht, Internationales Recht und Rechtsvergleichung / Department of European, International and Comparative Law Universität Wien / University of Vienna, Schottenbastei 10-16/2/5, 1010 Wien, AT Tel. +43 1 4277 35305, Fax +43 1 4277 9353; Erich.Schweighofer@univie.ac.at<mailto:Erich.Schweighofer@univie.ac.at>, https://rechtsinformatik.univie.ac.at IRIS 21: https://www.univie.ac.at/RI/IRIS21 Bitte um Beiträge ReMeP 2021: https://www.remep.net/ Bitte um Projekte Von: Andrei Kolesnikov<mailto:andrei@rol.ru> Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Mai 2020 00:18 An: Mühlberg, Annette<mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings<mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM I would like to support Bastiaan Thanks, —andrei пт, 8 мая 2020 г. в 22:28, Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de<mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de>>: Dear All, thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC. I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM. All the best Annette Von: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Im Auftrag von Heidi Ullrich Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 An: info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Dear All, As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates. IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria. * Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO). * Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring). * Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking). * Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media * Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings. * Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important. Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding. Kind regards, Heidi From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>> Date: Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM To: "euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input. Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. Best Sandra Von: Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info<mailto:Clement@Genty.info>> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 An: info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> Cc: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM Hi Sandra, Hi All, Is think that we have an interesting point here: Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new? If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory? By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge? Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others! This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience. And it is quite working [smile] My two cents, Clement Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu<mailto:info@hoferichter.eu> a écrit : Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance. On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so. The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN. Lets use this power wisely! My two cents Sandra -- Dr Clement Genty Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France www.genty.info [genty.info]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.genty.info&d=DwMFaQ&...> _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Hi all, I first of all want to thank Annette for putting my name forward, even if we didn’t discuss this in advance - and I of course feel very honoured, and flattered, by all the support from others that followed. In short: I am happy to accept the nomination for the role of ALAC Voting Delegate to the NomCom for the 2020 AGM to 2021 AGM term. Thanks again, take care Bastiaan
On 8 May 2020, at 21:15, Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de> wrote:
Dear All, thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC. I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM. All the best Annette
Von: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Im Auftrag von Heidi Ullrich Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 An: info@hoferichter.eu; euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Dear All,
As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom Delegates.
IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates
The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all candidates should meet important criteria. • Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO). • Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and hiring). • Comfortable and preferably fluent with English (listening, reading, speaking). • Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media • Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up to 4 meetings. • Ability work in a group environment, standing up for what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important.
Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding.
Kind regards, Heidi
From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu> Date: Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM To: "euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the NomCom, and I was asked for input. Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the list. Best Sandra
Von: Dr Clement Genty <Clement@Genty.info> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 An: info@hoferichter.eu Cc: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM
Hi Sandra, Hi All,
Is think that we have an interesting point here:
Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new?
If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it mandatory?
By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge?
Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one voice among many others!
This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a small municipal election. And France has elected half of its deputies who have no political experience.
And it is quite working <image001.gif>
My two cents,
Clement
Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info@hoferichter.eu a écrit :
Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you don't get from a distance.
On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom from 2016-2018 I can truly say so.
The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key personnel at ICANN.
Lets use this power wisely!
My two cents
Sandra
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Dear all, Thank you Clement for the nomination but I am afraid I am going to have to decline. Best wishes Olivier Bachollet On Fri, 8 May 2020, 03:03 Claudia Ruiz, <claudia.ruiz@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Clement,
Thank you for your email. Your nomination is recorded.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Claudia Ruiz
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Dear all,
I would like to nominate Olivier Bachollet for ALAC NOMCOM 20-21.
Olivier was attending AtLaS III at ICANN66 and as he is young, he represents the future of the Internet.
It is obviously a surprise nomination but I definitely hope that he is going to accept it. Olivier, you have my full support.
Clement
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participants (16)
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Andrei Kolesnikov -
Bastiaan Goslings -
Betty Fausta -
Claudia Ruiz -
Danko Jevtović -
Dr Clement Genty -
Erich Schweighofer -
Heidi Ullrich -
info@hoferichter.eu -
Jean-Jacques Subrenat -
Johan Helsingius -
Mühlberg, Annette -
Olivier Bachollet -
Tatiana Tropina -
Wolfgang Kleinwächter -
Yrjö Länsipuro