Dear all, Could you please ex[lain to me why there is no Ukraine in European "geographiocal definition"? Best regards, Oksana On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson@icann.org>wrote:

Olivier

Good afternoon and many thanks indeed for circulating. We stand read to answer any questions; we recognise there is much to do!

Best

Nigel

Nigel Hickson VP Europe ICANN Tel: +32 2 894 7407 Mob: +32 47963 0586

On 8/6/13 3:26 PM, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com> wrote:

...

Dear EURALO members,

please find attached, the summary of the ICANN Strategy for Europe meeting at ICANN 47. If you would like to provide feedback on this, please be so kind to channel it to the mailing list and we'll compile a response to Andrea Beccalli.

Kind regards,

Olivier

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Report from the informal session on ICANN Strategy for Europe at ICANN 47, Durban Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:27:39 -0700 From: Andrea Beccalli <andrea.beccalli@icann.org> To: CC:

Dear all,

Thank you again for having participated at the informal session on the ICANN strategy for Europe during Durban 47 Meeting, as promised I am sending you in attachment a report of the meeting. We would be grateful for your feedbacks on the report and and any further observation and suggestions on the strategy.

In September / October we will circulate a draft regional strategy for discussion at an ICANN Brussels Briefing in early November. We will then have a full public session on the strategy for Europe at the ICANN 48 Meeting in Buenos Aires.

Best regards,

*Andrea Beccalli*

Stakeholder Engagement Manager - Europe

ICANN

Rond Point Schuman 6,

1st floor

B-1040 Brussels

Belgium

Mobile: +32 4 95 38 55 34

Email: andrea.beccalli@icann.org <mailto:petya.minkova@icann.org>

From: Andrea Beccalli <andrea.beccalli@icann.org <mailto:andrea.beccalli@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:57 PM To: "lesley@nominet.org.uk <mailto:lesley@nominet.org.uk>" <lesley@nominet.org.uk <mailto:lesley@nominet.org.uk>>, "jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com <mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com>" <jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com <mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com>>, "pwilson@apnic.net <mailto:pwilson@apnic.net>" <pwilson@apnic.net <mailto:pwilson@apnic.net>>, "louie@louie.net <mailto:louie@louie.net>" <louie@louie.net <mailto:louie@louie.net>>, "ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>" <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>>, "patrik@frobbit.se <mailto:patrik@frobbit.se>" <patrik@frobbit.se <mailto:patrik@frobbit.se>>, "met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com>" <met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com>>, "Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca <mailto:Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca>" <Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca <mailto:Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca>>, "Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>" <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>>, "tonyarholmes@btinternet.com <mailto:tonyarholmes@btinternet.com>" <tonyarholmes@btinternet.com <mailto:tonyarholmes@btinternet.com>>, "krosette@cov.com <mailto:krosette@cov.com>" <krosette@cov.com <mailto:krosette@cov.com>>, "robin@ipjustice.org <mailto:robin@ipjustice.org>" <robin@ipjustice.org <mailto:robin@ipjustice.org>>, "william.drake@uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch>" <william.drake@uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch>>, "alain.berranger@gmail.com <mailto:alain.berranger@gmail.com>" <alain.berranger@gmail.com <mailto:alain.berranger@gmail.com>>, "junsec@wide.ad.jp <mailto:junsec@wide.ad.jp>" <junsec@wide.ad.jp <mailto:junsec@wide.ad.jp>>, "matt.serlin@markmonitor.com <mailto:matt.serlin@markmonitor.com>" <matt.serlin@markmonitor.com <mailto:matt.serlin@markmonitor.com>>, "kdrazek@Verisign.com <mailto:kdrazek@Verisign.com>" <kdrazek@Verisign.com <mailto:kdrazek@Verisign.com>>, "\"Kleinwächter", sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>>, "dmiloshevic@afilias.info <mailto:dmiloshevic@afilias.info>" <dmiloshevic@afilias.info <mailto:dmiloshevic@afilias.info>>, "Camino.MANJON@ec.europa.eu <mailto:Camino.MANJON@ec.europa.eu>" <Camino.MANJON@ec.europa.eu <mailto:Camino.MANJON@ec.europa.eu>> Cc: "gse@icann.org <mailto:gse@icann.org>" <gse@icann.org <mailto:gse@icann.org>>, Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson@icann.org <mailto:nigel.hickson@icann.org>> Subject: Invitation to the informal consultation on European strategy session - Thursday 18, 8-9.30am, Hall3B

Dear European ICANN Stakeholder,

We would like to invite you to participate at the*informal consultation on ICANN European Strategy *at the Durban 47, we booked the *Hall 3 B from 8 to 9.30 am on Thursday*.

The session will be an occasion to explore the possibility to have a regional strategy for Europe that along with the other ICANN regional strategies, will feed into the overall global ICANN 5 year strategy exercise.

Your views and ideas are welcome to assess the needs and the potential elements of the strategy, as well as approaches to implement it in an inclusive and open manner.

Attached you will find a draft agenda and a background note. Do forward the invitation to the European stakeholders attending the ICANN 47!

Looking forward to seeing you on Thursday!

Best regards,

Nigel Hickson,

VP Europe, nigel.hickson@icann.org <mailto:nigel.hickson@icann.org>

Andrea Beccalli

Manager Global Stakeholder Engagement Europe, andrea.beccalli@icann.org <mailto:andrea.beccalli@icann.org>

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Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org

Dear Christopher, Thanks a lot. This is also only the first my reaction. Now I see that Russia is also excluded from the list( Best regards, Oksana On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Christopher Wilkinson < cw@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:

On 06 Aug 2013, at 16:10, EMP <info@euromediaplatform.org> wrote:

...

… "geographiocal definition"?

Dear Oksana:

Noted. I think there are several other questions as well, related to the ICANN drafts. My comments follow, although not immediately because they require a certain amount of work.

Regards

CW

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Oksana Good morning to you and thanks for this; I do apologise; we certainly did not mean to give any offense through our indicative list of countries. As mentioned this was simply a suggested list and we will review in the light of comments. As you know this is a complex area due to different approaches by different bodies on the way Europe is defined. Many regards and the best for the summer Nigel On 8/6/13 4:10 PM, "EMP" <info@euromediaplatform.org> wrote:

Dear all,

Could you please ex[lain to me why there is no Ukraine in European "geographiocal definition"?

Best regards, Oksana

On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson@icann.org>wrote:

...

Olivier

Good afternoon and many thanks indeed for circulating. We stand read to answer any questions; we recognise there is much to do!

Best

Nigel

Nigel Hickson VP Europe ICANN Tel: +32 2 894 7407 Mob: +32 47963 0586

On 8/6/13 3:26 PM, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com> wrote:

...

Dear EURALO members,

please find attached, the summary of the ICANN Strategy for Europe meeting at ICANN 47. If you would like to provide feedback on this, please be so kind to channel it to the mailing list and we'll compile a response to Andrea Beccalli.

Kind regards,

Olivier

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Report from the informal session on ICANN Strategy for Europe at ICANN 47, Durban Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:27:39 -0700 From: Andrea Beccalli <andrea.beccalli@icann.org> To: CC:

Dear all,

Thank you again for having participated at the informal session on the ICANN strategy for Europe during Durban 47 Meeting, as promised I am sending you in attachment a report of the meeting. We would be grateful for your feedbacks on the report and and any further observation and suggestions on the strategy.

In September / October we will circulate a draft regional strategy for discussion at an ICANN Brussels Briefing in early November. We will then have a full public session on the strategy for Europe at the ICANN 48 Meeting in Buenos Aires.

Best regards,

*Andrea Beccalli*

Stakeholder Engagement Manager - Europe

ICANN

Rond Point Schuman 6,

1st floor

B-1040 Brussels

Belgium

Mobile: +32 4 95 38 55 34

Email: andrea.beccalli@icann.org <mailto:petya.minkova@icann.org>

From: Andrea Beccalli <andrea.beccalli@icann.org <mailto:andrea.beccalli@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:57 PM To: "lesley@nominet.org.uk <mailto:lesley@nominet.org.uk>" <lesley@nominet.org.uk <mailto:lesley@nominet.org.uk>>, "jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com <mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com>" <jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com <mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com>>, "pwilson@apnic.net <mailto:pwilson@apnic.net>" <pwilson@apnic.net <mailto:pwilson@apnic.net>>, "louie@louie.net <mailto:louie@louie.net>" <louie@louie.net <mailto:louie@louie.net>>, "ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>" <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>>, "patrik@frobbit.se <mailto:patrik@frobbit.se>" <patrik@frobbit.se <mailto:patrik@frobbit.se>>, "met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com>" <met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com>>, "Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca <mailto:Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca>" <Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca <mailto:Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca>>, "Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>" <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>>, "tonyarholmes@btinternet.com <mailto:tonyarholmes@btinternet.com>" <tonyarholmes@btinternet.com <mailto:tonyarholmes@btinternet.com>>, "krosette@cov.com <mailto:krosette@cov.com>" <krosette@cov.com <mailto:krosette@cov.com>>, "robin@ipjustice.org <mailto:robin@ipjustice.org>" <robin@ipjustice.org <mailto:robin@ipjustice.org>>, "william.drake@uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch>" <william.drake@uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch>>, "alain.berranger@gmail.com <mailto:alain.berranger@gmail.com>" <alain.berranger@gmail.com <mailto:alain.berranger@gmail.com>>, "junsec@wide.ad.jp <mailto:junsec@wide.ad.jp>" <junsec@wide.ad.jp <mailto:junsec@wide.ad.jp>>, "matt.serlin@markmonitor.com <mailto:matt.serlin@markmonitor.com>" <matt.serlin@markmonitor.com <mailto:matt.serlin@markmonitor.com>>, "kdrazek@Verisign.com <mailto:kdrazek@Verisign.com>" <kdrazek@Verisign.com <mailto:kdrazek@Verisign.com>>, "\"Kleinwächter", sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu <mailto:info@hoferichter.eu>>, "dmiloshevic@afilias.info <mailto:dmiloshevic@afilias.info>" <dmiloshevic@afilias.info <mailto:dmiloshevic@afilias.info>>, "Camino.MANJON@ec.europa.eu <mailto:Camino.MANJON@ec.europa.eu>" <Camino.MANJON@ec.europa.eu <mailto:Camino.MANJON@ec.europa.eu>> Cc: "gse@icann.org <mailto:gse@icann.org>" <gse@icann.org <mailto:gse@icann.org>>, Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson@icann.org <mailto:nigel.hickson@icann.org>> Subject: Invitation to the informal consultation on European strategy session - Thursday 18, 8-9.30am, Hall3B

Dear European ICANN Stakeholder,

We would like to invite you to participate at the*informal consultation on ICANN European Strategy *at the Durban 47, we booked the *Hall 3 B from 8 to 9.30 am on Thursday*.

The session will be an occasion to explore the possibility to have a regional strategy for Europe that along with the other ICANN regional strategies, will feed into the overall global ICANN 5 year strategy exercise.

Your views and ideas are welcome to assess the needs and the potential elements of the strategy, as well as approaches to implement it in an inclusive and open manner.

Attached you will find a draft agenda and a background note. Do forward the invitation to the European stakeholders attending the ICANN 47!

Looking forward to seeing you on Thursday!

Best regards,

Nigel Hickson,

VP Europe, nigel.hickson@icann.org <mailto:nigel.hickson@icann.org>

Andrea Beccalli

Manager Global Stakeholder Engagement Europe, andrea.beccalli@icann.org <mailto:andrea.beccalli@icann.org>

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Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org

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Christopher, Thank you - very useful comments, and with a positive tone (something that's always in deficit around mailing lists:-)! My two cents for the region - ICANN geographical regions were defined long time ago, and there are countries that have issues with that division. Hopefully, the community work in that matter will come with some conclusion and solution. I'm on vacation these days, so might come with more comments later. Nigel may contribute as we'll - as he always does! On Sunday, August 11, 2013, Christopher Wilkinson wrote:

Dear Olivier, Dear Friends and Colleagues:

Thankyou for consulting EURALO on this matter. Many of us were not in Durban, and so did not participate in the initial meeting.

The two papers which have been circulated give rise to a several considerations and comments. I attach my feedback. I shall naturally be glad to participate in any further discussions about the proposed ICANN Strategy for Europe.

Best regards

Christopher Wilkinson

Attachment: CW_comments_Rev3.pdf

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