Re: [EURO-Discuss] Fwd: Swedish ISP deletes all retained customer data in wake of EU court ruling | PCWorld
Wolf Well I'll have to wait until he gets back and warms up a bit and then I'll discuss it with him :) We might need to wait until the case is heard in the Irish High Court: http://www.digitalrights.ie/ecj-says-eu-mandated-mass-surveillance-entails-i... Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Domains http://www.blacknight.co/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 -----Original Message----- From: Wolf Ludwig [mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:24 PM To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Roberto Gaetano; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Fwd: Swedish ISP deletes all retained customer data in wake of EU court ruling | PCWorld Congrats to the courageous Swedish ISP for deleting all retained customer data in wake of EU court ruling! This immediate taking action is real *customer care* ("from our point of view it is more important to protect the privacy and integrity of our customers”). I share the wish of the CEO: “I strongly suggest that other ISPs and service providers would follow our example.” Hope this becomes a best practice in Sweden and elsewhere over the next weeks! Michele, you are highly welcome after your legal counsel is back from the North Pole ;-) Best, Wolf Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:44:
Roberto
I'm waiting to see what our legal counsel thinks about this - unfortunately he's at the North Pole this week ..
Regards
Michele
Roberto Gaetano wrote Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:40 PM I love it when people stop the blah blah and take action... R.
Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote venerdì 11 aprile 2014 00:32 This could get very interesting very quickly:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2142240/swedish-isp-deletes-all-retaine d- customer-data-in-wake-of-eu-court-ruling.html
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Michele even us non EU residents are keen to watch this unfold... Fingers crossed... CLO from my Mobile phone On 11/04/2014 5:37 AM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
Wolf
Well I'll have to wait until he gets back and warms up a bit and then I'll discuss it with him :)
We might need to wait until the case is heard in the Irish High Court:
http://www.digitalrights.ie/ecj-says-eu-mandated-mass-surveillance-entails-i...
Regards
Michele
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Domains http://www.blacknight.co/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
-----Original Message----- From: Wolf Ludwig [mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:24 PM To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Roberto Gaetano; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Fwd: Swedish ISP deletes all retained customer data in wake of EU court ruling | PCWorld
Congrats to the courageous Swedish ISP for deleting all retained customer data in wake of EU court ruling! This immediate taking action is real *customer care* ("from our point of view it is more important to protect the privacy and integrity of our customers").
I share the wish of the CEO: "I strongly suggest that other ISPs and service providers would follow our example." Hope this becomes a best practice in Sweden and elsewhere over the next weeks! Michele, you are highly welcome after your legal counsel is back from the North Pole ;-)
Best, Wolf
Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:44:
Roberto
I'm waiting to see what our legal counsel thinks about this - unfortunately he's at the North Pole this week ..
Regards
Michele
Roberto Gaetano wrote Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:40 PM I love it when people stop the blah blah and take action... R.
Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote venerdì 11 aprile 2014 00:32 This could get very interesting very quickly:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2142240/swedish-isp-deletes-all-retaine d- customer-data-in-wake-of-eu-court-ruling.html
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Colleagues Good morning; while not dismissing the significance of this decision by the ECJ and the potential consequences (I have an interest as was on the UK team that negotiated adoption of this after the Madrid train bombings) we should also note that the scope is limited to providers of "electronic communication services" (see Article 1 of attached directive). I am no lawyer but understand the in general the implementation of this directive by Member States is confined to such as ISPs and mobile operators; thus limiting affect in relation to ICANN and RAA. Best Nigel http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2006:105:0054:00 63:EN:PDF On 4/10/14 8:49 PM, "Cheryl Langdon-Orr" <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
Michele even us non EU residents are keen to watch this unfold... Fingers crossed...
CLO from my Mobile phone On 11/04/2014 5:37 AM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
Wolf
Well I'll have to wait until he gets back and warms up a bit and then I'll discuss it with him :)
We might need to wait until the case is heard in the Irish High Court:
http://www.digitalrights.ie/ecj-says-eu-mandated-mass-surveillance-entail s-interference-fundamental-rights-practically-entire-european-population/
Regards
Michele
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Domains http://www.blacknight.co/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
-----Original Message----- From: Wolf Ludwig [mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:24 PM To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Roberto Gaetano; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Fwd: Swedish ISP deletes all retained customer data in wake of EU court ruling | PCWorld
Congrats to the courageous Swedish ISP for deleting all retained customer data in wake of EU court ruling! This immediate taking action is real *customer care* ("from our point of view it is more important to protect the privacy and integrity of our customers").
I share the wish of the CEO: "I strongly suggest that other ISPs and service providers would follow our example." Hope this becomes a best practice in Sweden and elsewhere over the next weeks! Michele, you are highly welcome after your legal counsel is back from the North Pole ;-)
Best, Wolf
Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:44:
Roberto
I'm waiting to see what our legal counsel thinks about this - unfortunately he's at the North Pole this week ..
Regards
Michele
Roberto Gaetano wrote Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:40 PM I love it when people stop the blah blah and take action... R.
Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote venerdì 11 aprile 2014 00:32 This could get very interesting very quickly:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2142240/swedish-isp-deletes-all-retaine
d- customer-data-in-wake-of-eu-court-ruling.html
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Domains http://www.blacknight.co/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
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Michele, Warm him up your way!! r.
-----Messaggio originale----- Da: Michele Neylon - Blacknight [mailto:michele@blacknight.com] Inviato: venerdì 11 aprile 2014 03:36 A: Wolf Ludwig; Roberto Gaetano; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Oggetto: RE: [EURO-Discuss] Fwd: Swedish ISP deletes all retained customer data in wake of EU court ruling | PCWorld
Wolf
Well I'll have to wait until he gets back and warms up a bit and then I'll discuss it with him :)
We might need to wait until the case is heard in the Irish High Court:
http://www.digitalrights.ie/ecj-says-eu-mandated-mass-surveillance- entails-interference-fundamental-rights-practically-entire-european- population/
Regards
Michele
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Domains http://www.blacknight.co/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
-----Original Message----- From: Wolf Ludwig [mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:24 PM To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Roberto Gaetano; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Fwd: Swedish ISP deletes all retained customer data in wake of EU court ruling | PCWorld
Congrats to the courageous Swedish ISP for deleting all retained customer data in wake of EU court ruling! This immediate taking action is real *customer care* ("from our point of view it is more important to protect the privacy and integrity of our customers”).
I share the wish of the CEO: “I strongly suggest that other ISPs and service providers would follow our example.” Hope this becomes a best practice in Sweden and elsewhere over the next weeks! Michele, you are highly welcome after your legal counsel is back from the North Pole ;-)
Best, Wolf
Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:44:
Roberto
I'm waiting to see what our legal counsel thinks about this - unfortunately he's at the North Pole this week ..
Regards
Michele
Roberto Gaetano wrote Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:40 PM I love it when people stop the blah blah and take action... R.
Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote venerdì 11 aprile 2014 00:32 This could get very interesting very quickly:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2142240/swedish-isp-deletes-all-retain e d- customer-data-in-wake-of-eu-court-ruling.html
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Domains http://www.blacknight.co/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
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Cheryl Langdon-Orr -
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