Re: [EURO-Discuss] [EURO-ALS] Revised elections process - IMPORTANT PLEASE READ
The 'new' way is actually what was decided in Lisbon - I had mistakenly thought that this was changed on the last telecon, but that wasn't correct. On 09/05/07, Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr> wrote:
Just I don't understand the way the vote will be organize for the Alac?
Why you change the first way it was set-up?
We were needed an other way for the board to rank all the candidates easily because in the same time we don't know the number of seats. It is not the case for the Alac delegates.
Sébastien Bachollet
Président
sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr
www.egeni.org
www.isoc.fr
________________________________
De : euro-als-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-als-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Nick Ashton-Hart Envoyé : mercredi 9 mai 2007 10:08 À : euro-als@atlarge-lists.icann.org; Europe Discuss Objet : [EURO-ALS] Revised elections process - IMPORTANT PLEASE READ
Dear All:
I have revised the page on the wiki reflecting the elections process in two regards:
1) To take account of the fact that the GCs office has said that Ms. Cretu's candidature is in order;
2) To take into account that the voting system can accomodate the preference-casting system decided in Lisbon and also on the teleconference
3) To take into account an error in my understanding of what was discussed on the teleconference. I had mistakenly understood that the ALAC seats would be selected via voters casting two votes for their preference, and the top 2 vote getters would be elected. In fact, the preference-based system to be used for the Board seats was retained also for the ALAC members, which means that only one system is needed for the entire ballot (simpler to understand for voters).
I reproduce the page from the Wiki below. The wiki page again is at: https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?euralo_elections_2007
2007 EURALO Election Details
As posted by email by the ICANN staff, incorporating the decisions recommended to the region on the teleconference of 4 May 2007.
ELECTION PERIOD: Noon UTC, Friday 11 May to Noon UTC, Wednesday 16th May.
VOTERS: The designated voters (1 per ALS) of ALSes who have signed the Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN either in-person at the Lisbon ICANN meeting or digitally via electronic mail - at any time before the beginning of the voting - Text available from the RALO Organising Instruments page. Current list of MOU signatories can be found at: the MoU Signatories page.
CANDIDATES: All those nominated up to the end of the teleconference on 4th May 2007 (see below for complete list)
NUMBER OF BOARD SEATS: The strong recommendation of those on the teleconference was that there should be 7 members of the initial board. If there is any objection to this number, then the call's strong recommendation is that there should be a section on the ballot for each voter to pick from amongst the following options for the number of total seats: 5, 7, 9
Voting For the ALAC Candidates:
1. The ballot will work as follows:
1. Each voter will rank, in order of preference, ALL the ALAC candidates.
2. The voting system will then produce a list, which incorporates the preferences expressed. The candidate receiving the highest preference across all preference votes cast will show at the top of the list; the next-highest directly underneath, and the third preference at the bottom.
2. Since the GC office has ruled that the candidature of Ms. Cretu is in order, there will be three candidates.
3. The terms of the two seats are staggered. Whichever candidate receives the highest preference from amongst all the ranked votes cast shall have the two-year term. The candidate receiving the next-highest ranking shall receive the one year term.
4. The two candidates receiving the highest aggregated preference votes shall be elected. The remaining candidate, (if any) will be subject to election to the Board (see below for details)
Voting For the EURALO Board:
1. The ballot for the board will list all of the current nominees for board seats, of which there are twelve (12) (reproduced below and also at Meeting Notes 4 May 2007.
2. This list includes the three candidates for ALAC seats.
3. The candidate for an ALAC seat who does not get elected, may be seated as a board member (but see below). No candidate for ALAC may be elected to both an ALAC seat AND a board seat, however.
4. The actual ballot will work as follows:
1. Each voter will rank, in order of preference, ALL the board nominees.
2. The voting system will then produce a list, which incorporates the preferences expressed.
3. The board members who will be elected are the top 'N' listed, from the top of the list on down. The Number 'N' shall be either:
1. In the case that no objection is raised to the call's recommendation of seven (7) members: 7
2. In the case that an objection is raised, then the number shall be that number from the selection above (5,7,9) which receives the most votes.
TERM OF BOARD MEMBERS:
It was not decided on the call how to determine which board members would receive one year terms, and which would receive two, as per the Bylaws, Clause 9.5.2. Therefore, the staff recommends the following:
1. The top 1/2 of the list of preferences from the board election (rounded to the nearest whole number, depending upon the number of seats), will receive two-year terms, and the bottom 1/2 will receive one-year terms.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO OBJECT TO THIS PROCEDURE as this is simply a staff proposal. Keep in mind, however, that it might be viewed as less than ideal to have another ballot, immediately after the first, to decide who shall have what length of term from amongst those elected.
VOTING MECHANISM:
At-Large uses a voting system provided by BigPulse (www.bigpulse.com). The authorised voter will receive an individualised email, with a clickable link as well as manual login instructions, which are individually-generated. The system will be setup to provide a secret ballot, and the ICANN staff will ensure that the system produces a reminder email 48 hours before the vote closes, and then again 24 hours before the vote closes, to any voter who has not yet voted to help ensure that they do cast a vote. We will also setup a URL where anyone will be able to see the results of the vote for themselves to ensure transparency with respect to the results. This URL will be forwarded to both European email lists.
CANDIDATES LIST
Christian Name
Surname
ALS (Country of ALS)
Country of Residence
Nationality
Sub-Region
Board Candidate
(Y/N)
ALAC Candidate (2 seats)
Notes
Patrick
Vande Walle
ISOC Luxembourg (Luxembourg)
Luxembourg
Western Europe
SN: 07/04/07
Sébastien
Bachollet
ISOC France (France)
France
Western Europe
Nom: Dessi
Veronica
Cretu
network new media (Germany)
Moldava
Eastern Europe
Nom: Wolfgang
Rudi
Vansnick
ISOC Belgium (Belgium)
Belgium
Belgium
Western Europe
Yes
Vittorio
Bertola
ISOC Italy (Italy)
Italy
Italy
Western Europe
Yes
Christoph
Bruch
GCLU (Germany)
Germany
Germany
Western Europe
Yes
Desiree
Miloshevic
United Kingdom
Serbia (?)
Eastern Europe
Yes
Bill
Drake
Switzerland
USA
Western Europe
Yes
Jeanette
Hofmann
Germany
Germany
Western Europe
Yes
Karen
Banks
UK
Australia
Western Europe
Yes
Wolf
Ludwig
Switzerland
Germany
Western Europe
Yes
member of Communica.ch, an ALS candidate organisation
Paco
de Quito
ISOC CAT (Spain)
Spain
Spain
Western Europe
Yes
Patrick
Vande Walle
ISOC Luxembourg (Luxembourg)
Luxembourg
Western Europe
Yes (ALAC Candidate)
Sebastien
Bachollet
ISOC France (France)
France
France
Western Europe
Yes (ALAC Candidate)
Veronica
Cretu
network new media (Germany)
Moldova
Moldova
Eastern Europe
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I don't understand the rational for that. There are 2 seats we vote for 2 seats. And the rank will be established by the number of votes by candidates. Sébastien Bachollet Président sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr www.egeni.org www.isoc.fr -----Message d'origine----- De : nashtonhart@gmail.com [mailto:nashtonhart@gmail.com] De la part de Nick Ashton-Hart Envoyé : jeudi 10 mai 2007 00:00 À : Sébastien Bachollet Cc : euro-als@atlarge-lists.icann.org; Europe Discuss Objet : Re: [EURO-ALS] Revised elections process - IMPORTANT PLEASE READ The 'new' way is actually what was decided in Lisbon - I had mistakenly thought that this was changed on the last telecon, but that wasn't correct. On 09/05/07, Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr> wrote:
Just I don't understand the way the vote will be organize for the Alac?
Why you change the first way it was set-up?
We were needed an other way for the board to rank all the candidates
easily
because in the same time we don't know the number of seats. It is not the case for the Alac delegates.
Sébastien Bachollet
Président
sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr
www.egeni.org
www.isoc.fr
________________________________
De : euro-als-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-als-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Nick Ashton-Hart Envoyé : mercredi 9 mai 2007 10:08 À : euro-als@atlarge-lists.icann.org; Europe Discuss Objet : [EURO-ALS] Revised elections process - IMPORTANT PLEASE READ
Dear All:
I have revised the page on the wiki reflecting the elections process in two regards:
1) To take account of the fact that the GCs office has said that Ms. Cretu's candidature is in order;
2) To take into account that the voting system can accomodate the preference-casting system decided in Lisbon and also on the teleconference
3) To take into account an error in my understanding of what was discussed on the teleconference. I had mistakenly understood that the ALAC seats would be selected via voters casting two votes for their preference, and the top 2 vote getters would be elected. In fact, the preference-based system to be used for the Board seats was retained also for the ALAC members, which means that only one system is needed for the entire ballot (simpler to understand for voters).
I reproduce the page from the Wiki below. The wiki page again is at: https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?euralo_elections_2007
2007 EURALO Election Details
As posted by email by the ICANN staff, incorporating the decisions recommended to the region on the teleconference of 4 May 2007.
ELECTION PERIOD: Noon UTC, Friday 11 May to Noon UTC, Wednesday 16th May.
VOTERS: The designated voters (1 per ALS) of ALSes who have signed the Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN either in-person at the Lisbon ICANN meeting or digitally via electronic mail - at any time before the beginning of the voting - Text available from the RALO Organising Instruments page. Current list of MOU signatories can be found at: the MoU Signatories page.
CANDIDATES: All those nominated up to the end of the teleconference on 4th May 2007 (see below for complete list)
NUMBER OF BOARD SEATS: The strong recommendation of those on the teleconference was that there should be 7 members of the initial board. If there is any objection to this number, then the call's strong recommendation is that there should be a section on the ballot for each voter to pick from amongst the following options for the number of total seats: 5, 7, 9
Voting For the ALAC Candidates:
1. The ballot will work as follows:
1. Each voter will rank, in order of preference, ALL the ALAC candidates.
2. The voting system will then produce a list, which incorporates the preferences expressed. The candidate receiving the highest preference across all preference votes cast will show at the top of the list; the next-highest directly underneath, and the third preference at the bottom.
2. Since the GC office has ruled that the candidature of Ms. Cretu is in order, there will be three candidates.
3. The terms of the two seats are staggered. Whichever candidate receives the highest preference from amongst all the ranked votes cast shall have the two-year term. The candidate receiving the next-highest ranking shall receive the one year term.
4. The two candidates receiving the highest aggregated preference votes shall be elected. The remaining candidate, (if any) will be subject to election to the Board (see below for details)
Voting For the EURALO Board:
1. The ballot for the board will list all of the current nominees for board seats, of which there are twelve (12) (reproduced below and also at Meeting Notes 4 May 2007.
2. This list includes the three candidates for ALAC seats.
3. The candidate for an ALAC seat who does not get elected, may be seated as a board member (but see below). No candidate for ALAC may be elected to both an ALAC seat AND a board seat, however.
4. The actual ballot will work as follows:
1. Each voter will rank, in order of preference, ALL the board nominees.
2. The voting system will then produce a list, which incorporates the preferences expressed.
3. The board members who will be elected are the top 'N' listed, from the top of the list on down. The Number 'N' shall be either:
1. In the case that no objection is raised to the call's recommendation of seven (7) members: 7
2. In the case that an objection is raised, then the number shall be that number from the selection above (5,7,9) which receives the most votes.
TERM OF BOARD MEMBERS:
It was not decided on the call how to determine which board members would receive one year terms, and which would receive two, as per the Bylaws, Clause 9.5.2. Therefore, the staff recommends the following:
1. The top 1/2 of the list of preferences from the board election (rounded to the nearest whole number, depending upon the number of seats), will receive two-year terms, and the bottom 1/2 will receive one-year terms.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO OBJECT TO THIS PROCEDURE as this is simply a staff proposal. Keep in mind, however, that it might be viewed as less than ideal to have another ballot, immediately after the first, to decide who shall have what length of term from amongst those elected.
VOTING MECHANISM:
At-Large uses a voting system provided by BigPulse (www.bigpulse.com). The authorised voter will receive an individualised email, with a clickable link as well as manual login instructions, which are individually-generated. The system will be setup to provide a secret ballot, and the ICANN staff will ensure that the system produces a reminder email 48 hours before the vote closes, and then again 24 hours before the vote closes, to any voter who has not yet voted to help ensure that they do cast a vote. We will also setup a URL where anyone will be able to see the results of the vote for themselves to ensure transparency with respect to the results. This URL will be forwarded to both European email lists.
CANDIDATES LIST
Christian Name
Surname
ALS (Country of ALS)
Country of Residence
Nationality
Sub-Region
Board Candidate
(Y/N)
ALAC Candidate (2 seats)
Notes
Patrick
Vande Walle
ISOC Luxembourg (Luxembourg)
Luxembourg
Western Europe
SN: 07/04/07
Sébastien
Bachollet
ISOC France (France)
France
Western Europe
Nom: Dessi
Veronica
Cretu
network new media (Germany)
Moldava
Eastern Europe
Nom: Wolfgang
Rudi
Vansnick
ISOC Belgium (Belgium)
Belgium
Belgium
Western Europe
Yes
Vittorio
Bertola
ISOC Italy (Italy)
Italy
Italy
Western Europe
Yes
Christoph
Bruch
GCLU (Germany)
Germany
Germany
Western Europe
Yes
Desiree
Miloshevic
United Kingdom
Serbia (?)
Eastern Europe
Yes
Bill
Drake
Switzerland
USA
Western Europe
Yes
Jeanette
Hofmann
Germany
Germany
Western Europe
Yes
Karen
Banks
UK
Australia
Western Europe
Yes
Wolf
Ludwig
Switzerland
Germany
Western Europe
Yes
member of Communica.ch, an ALS candidate organisation
Paco
de Quito
ISOC CAT (Spain)
Spain
Spain
Western Europe
Yes
Patrick
Vande Walle
ISOC Luxembourg (Luxembourg)
Luxembourg
Western Europe
Yes (ALAC Candidate)
Sebastien
Bachollet
ISOC France (France)
France
France
Western Europe
Yes (ALAC Candidate)
Veronica
Cretu
network new media (Germany)
Moldova
Moldova
Eastern Europe
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Hello, I agree! Every voter has to have two possible Votes for the ALAC Candidates Werner Hülsmann DVD Boardmember Sébastien Bachollet schrieb:
I don't understand the rational for that. There are 2 seats we vote for 2 seats. And the rank will be established by the number of votes by candidates.
Sébastien Bachollet Président sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr www.egeni.org www.isoc.fr
-----Message d'origine----- De : nashtonhart@gmail.com [mailto:nashtonhart@gmail.com] De la part de Nick Ashton-Hart Envoyé : jeudi 10 mai 2007 00:00 À : Sébastien Bachollet Cc : euro-als@atlarge-lists.icann.org; Europe Discuss Objet : Re: [EURO-ALS] Revised elections process - IMPORTANT PLEASE READ
The 'new' way is actually what was decided in Lisbon - I had mistakenly thought that this was changed on the last telecon, but that wasn't correct.
On 09/05/07, Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr> wrote:
Just I don't understand the way the vote will be organize for the Alac?
Why you change the first way it was set-up?
We were needed an other way for the board to rank all the candidates
easily
because in the same time we don't know the number of seats. It is not the case for the Alac delegates.
Sébastien Bachollet
Président
sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr
www.egeni.org
www.isoc.fr
________________________________
De : euro-als-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-als-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Nick Ashton-Hart Envoyé : mercredi 9 mai 2007 10:08 À : euro-als@atlarge-lists.icann.org; Europe Discuss Objet : [EURO-ALS] Revised elections process - IMPORTANT PLEASE READ
Dear All:
I have revised the page on the wiki reflecting the elections process in
two
regards:
1) To take account of the fact that the GCs office has said that Ms.
Cretu's
candidature is in order;
2) To take into account that the voting system can accomodate the preference-casting system decided in Lisbon and also on the teleconference
3) To take into account an error in my understanding of what was discussed on the teleconference. I had mistakenly understood that the ALAC seats
would
be selected via voters casting two votes for their preference, and the top
2
vote getters would be elected. In fact, the preference-based system to be used for the Board seats was retained also for the ALAC members, which
means
that only one system is needed for the entire ballot (simpler to
understand
for voters).
I reproduce the page from the Wiki below. The wiki page again is at: https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?euralo_elections_2007
2007 EURALO Election Details
As posted by email by the ICANN staff, incorporating the decisions recommended to the region on the teleconference of 4 May 2007.
ELECTION PERIOD: Noon UTC, Friday 11 May to Noon UTC, Wednesday 16th May.
VOTERS: The designated voters (1 per ALS) of ALSes who have signed the Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN either in-person at the Lisbon
ICANN
meeting or digitally via electronic mail - at any time before the
beginning
of the voting - Text available from the RALO Organising Instruments page. Current list of MOU signatories can be found at: the MoU Signatories page.
CANDIDATES: All those nominated up to the end of the teleconference on 4th May 2007 (see below for complete list)
NUMBER OF BOARD SEATS: The strong recommendation of those on the teleconference was that there should be 7 members of the initial board. If there is any objection to this number, then the call's strong
recommendation
is that there should be a section on the ballot for each voter to pick
from
amongst the following options for the number of total seats: 5, 7, 9
Voting For the ALAC Candidates:
1. The ballot will work as follows:
1. Each voter will rank, in order of preference, ALL the ALAC candidates.
2. The voting system will then produce a list, which incorporates the preferences expressed. The candidate receiving the highest preference
across
all preference votes cast will show at the top of the list; the
next-highest
directly underneath, and the third preference at the bottom.
2. Since the GC office has ruled that the candidature of Ms. Cretu is in order, there will be three candidates.
3. The terms of the two seats are staggered. Whichever candidate receives the highest preference from amongst all the ranked votes cast
shall
have the two-year term. The candidate receiving the next-highest ranking shall receive the one year term.
4. The two candidates receiving the highest aggregated preference
votes
shall be elected. The remaining candidate, (if any) will be subject to election to the Board (see below for details)
Voting For the EURALO Board:
1. The ballot for the board will list all of the current nominees for board seats, of which there are twelve (12) (reproduced below and also at Meeting Notes 4 May 2007.
2. This list includes the three candidates for ALAC seats.
3. The candidate for an ALAC seat who does not get elected, may be seated as a board member (but see below). No candidate for ALAC may be elected to both an ALAC seat AND a board seat, however.
4. The actual ballot will work as follows:
1. Each voter will rank, in order of preference, ALL the board nominees.
2. The voting system will then produce a list, which incorporates the preferences expressed.
3. The board members who will be elected are the top 'N' listed, from the top of the list on down. The Number 'N' shall be either:
1. In the case that no objection is raised to the call's
recommendation
of seven (7) members: 7
2. In the case that an objection is raised, then the number shall be that number from the selection above (5,7,9) which receives the most
votes.
TERM OF BOARD MEMBERS:
It was not decided on the call how to determine which board members would receive one year terms, and which would receive two, as per the Bylaws, Clause 9.5.2. Therefore, the staff recommends the following:
1. The top 1/2 of the list of preferences from the board election (rounded to the nearest whole number, depending upon the number of seats), will receive two-year terms, and the bottom 1/2 will receive one-year
terms.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO OBJECT TO THIS PROCEDURE as this is simply a staff proposal. Keep in mind, however, that it might be viewed as less than
ideal
to have another ballot, immediately after the first, to decide who shall have what length of term from amongst those elected.
VOTING MECHANISM:
At-Large uses a voting system provided by BigPulse (www.bigpulse.com). The authorised voter will receive an individualised email, with a clickable
link
as well as manual login instructions, which are individually-generated.
The
system will be setup to provide a secret ballot, and the ICANN staff will ensure that the system produces a reminder email 48 hours before the vote closes, and then again 24 hours before the vote closes, to any voter who
has
not yet voted to help ensure that they do cast a vote. We will also setup
a
URL where anyone will be able to see the results of the vote for
themselves
to ensure transparency with respect to the results. This URL will be forwarded to both European email lists.
CANDIDATES LIST
Christian Name
Surname
ALS (Country of ALS)
Country of Residence
Nationality
Sub-Region
Board Candidate
(Y/N)
ALAC Candidate (2 seats)
Notes
Patrick
Vande Walle
ISOC Luxembourg (Luxembourg)
Luxembourg
Western Europe
SN: 07/04/07
Sébastien
Bachollet
ISOC France (France)
France
Western Europe
Nom: Dessi
Veronica
Cretu
network new media (Germany)
Moldava
Eastern Europe
Nom: Wolfgang
Rudi
Vansnick
ISOC Belgium (Belgium)
Belgium
Belgium
Western Europe
Yes
Vittorio
Bertola
ISOC Italy (Italy)
Italy
Italy
Western Europe
Yes
Christoph
Bruch
GCLU (Germany)
Germany
Germany
Western Europe
Yes
Desiree
Miloshevic
United Kingdom
Serbia (?)
Eastern Europe
Yes
Bill
Drake
Switzerland
USA
Western Europe
Yes
Jeanette
Hofmann
Germany
Germany
Western Europe
Yes
Karen
Banks
UK
Australia
Western Europe
Yes
Wolf
Ludwig
Switzerland
Germany
Western Europe
Yes
member of Communica.ch, an ALS candidate organisation
Paco
de Quito
ISOC CAT (Spain)
Spain
Spain
Western Europe
Yes
Patrick
Vande Walle
ISOC Luxembourg (Luxembourg)
Luxembourg
Western Europe
Yes (ALAC Candidate)
Sebastien
Bachollet
ISOC France (France)
France
France
Western Europe
Yes (ALAC Candidate)
Veronica
Cretu
network new media (Germany)
Moldova
Moldova
Eastern Europe
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