See below On 11/05/07, Annette Muehlberg <Annette.Muehlberg@web.de> wrote:

All, the link has not been updated:

It has now - you have to understand that I do keep these things up but if there are a few hours' delay in doing so I would hope to have a bit of forbearance...

Strong objections have been raised to the proposal of having only 7 board seats.

This has been reflected.

The alternative proposal was to just take all nominees and let them form the board (10 in case Sebastian and Veronica are going to be ALAC members, 9 in case Patrick and Veronika are going to be ALAC members and 9 in case Sebastian and Patrick are going to be ALAC members) plus the non-voting ALAC members.

This is an alternative proposal. What I would suggest is that an additional ballot item be added. The decision would then be based upon the following selections: 5,7,9, all candidates

We just state that for this period, depending on the outcome of the ALAC selection the board will either have 9 or 10 voting members.

That is a proposal of some ALSes but it is not a proposal of all ALSes. What I have provided above would incorporate your proposal and also that of others.

Right after the selection/election of the ALAC members we could celebrate them and the Board too. No further election, hassle, email correspondence on this issue needed.

Again, avoiding elections isn't really democratic - rather the opposite. I hope that all can find their way to accept the above proposal, which incorporates your proposal, but also everyone elses.

The current text on the website (link below) assumes, there is a ballot, it assumes certain number of seats... this has to be updated.

Again, we cannot simply erase the proposals of others. Everyone has a voice here, and everyone's proposals need to be respected.

This whole procedure is not transparent enough. The following can help: Any text on the website should be posted via email too.

Every update to that page has been posted by email, including the immediately-previous posting.

Best annette

Quote from website "The actual ballot will work as follows: Each voter will rank, in order of preference, ALL the board nominees. The voting system will then produce a list, which incorporates the preferences expressed. The board members who will be elected are the top 'N' listed, from the top of the list on down. The Number 'N' shall be either: In the case that no objection is raised to the call's recommendation of seven (7) members: 7 In the case that an objection is raised, then the number shall be that number from the selection above (5,7,9) which receives the most votes. "

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Hello,

on https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?euralo_elections_2007 I read:

"VOTERS: The designated voters (1 per ALS) of ALSes who have signed the Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN either in-person at the Lisbon ICANN meeting or digitally via electronic mail - at any time before the beginning of the voting"

There must be a mistake: First of all we have to decide, if this "strong recommendation" will be accepted.

Next: If there are two seats we have to vote for ALAC, then every voter should have two possible votes. The two candidates with the most votes will be elected. This is the democratical way of election. There ist no need for such a ranking.

After the election of the two members for the ALAC seats we have two decide, how many seats shall the EURALO board have. The election of the EURALO boad members can't start before we know how many board members are to elect.

Kind Regarts,

Werner Hülsmann

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