Discussions at tonight’s Board meeting and Bylaws
Dear all, as discussed and decided tonight at our extraordinary Board meeting after the Lisbon Gala dinner, attached please find a copy of the final version of the EURALO Bylaws. Regarding the question whether the Wednesday’s voting result under Agenda point B 9 b complied with respective Bylaws prescriptions (as some Board members assumed), please see and verify Bylaws article 11.20 For all elections in the General Assembly, candidates shall require an absolute majority of votes of the participating members. If no candidate receives an absolute majority a run-off election shall take place between the two candidates with the greatest number of votes. (I think it’s the one Rudi referred to) And as noted before, the number of votes of the participating members (incl. proxy votes) was 28. It’s now on the members listed tonight (Yrjö, Oliver, Olivier, Jordi and Stefan) to interpret this and related prescriptions and to communicate their conclusions until Friday, 14:00 local Lisbon time – incl. whether further steps need to be taken. Thanks for your advice! I will forward you the list / summary of the EURALO thematic priorities, as discussed and defined under Agenda point C 11 at our Wednesday’s GA, by tomorrow. Kind regards, Wolf EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear Wolf, first of all: thanks a lot for your work! I don't think, that you send the final bylaws because they where changend in spring 2011. This isn't mentioned in the Bylaws you sent (see in particular 9.5.1). If the changing matters only this section (9.5.1) then we have forgotten to elect a vice-chair (see 9.6.1). And we shouldn't elect the secretary because the secretariat "may be appointed or engaged on a paid or unpaid basis by the Board" (see 12.1). Kind Regards, Werner Am 21.06.2013 03:38, schrieb Wolf Ludwig:
Dear all,
as discussed and decided tonight at our extraordinary Board meeting after the Lisbon Gala dinner, attached please find a copy of the final version of the EURALO Bylaws.
Regarding the question whether the Wednesday’s voting result under Agenda point B 9 b complied with respective Bylaws prescriptions (as some Board members assumed), please see and verify Bylaws article
11.20 For all elections in the General Assembly, candidates shall require an absolute majority of votes of the participating members. If no candidate receives an absolute majority a run-off election shall take place between the two candidates with the greatest number of votes. (I think it’s the one Rudi referred to)
And as noted before, the number of votes of the participating members (incl. proxy votes) was 28.
It’s now on the members listed tonight (Yrjö, Oliver, Olivier, Jordi and Stefan) to interpret this and related prescriptions and to communicate their conclusions until Friday, 14:00 local Lisbon time – incl. whether further steps need to be taken. Thanks for your advice!
I will forward you the list / summary of the EURALO thematic priorities, as discussed and defined under Agenda point C 11 at our Wednesday’s GA, by tomorrow.
Kind regards, Wolf
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-----Messaggio originale----- Da: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Annette Muehlberg Inviato: venerdì 21 giugno 2013 17:45 A: Discussion for At-Large Europe Cc: At-Large Staff; "Annette Mühlberg" Oggetto: [EURO-Discuss] GA Minutes
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, there is a very suspect function of the mailing list server. I stand next to annette as she was writing the mail to the euralo list. And I can asure you: There has been some content! @staff: Can you please check, if there is a misfunction? Or if there is a filter on the list, which don't like some of annettes text. Kind Regards, Werner Am 24.06.2013 16:23, schrieb Annette Muehlberg:
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Hi, maybe it is because that mail was HTML only? While mail clients send HTML in a multi-part format with plain text along with it, most listservers are configured to strip HTML. So I guess what happens here is a unfortunate combination of a mailclient that sends HTML only (w/o plain text) and mailman that strips the HTML, leaving an empty mail body only. Annette: Can you try sending the mail as plain text? Some mail client allow it to change this for an individual mail only. Staff /could/ allow Mailman to forward HTML mail, even though that is discouraged. /Manuel Am 24.06.2013 16:29, schrieb "W. Hülsmann (DVD e.V.)":
there is a very suspect function of the mailing list server. I stand next to annette as she was writing the mail to the euralo list. And I can asure you: There has been some content!
@staff: Can you please check, if there is a misfunction? Or if there is a filter on the list, which don't like some of annettes text.
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Thank you, Manuel, funny that the week before it worked. It seems that my web-mailer changed format-functions. I wll resend the mail now. All the best Annette
Gesendet: Montag, 24. Juni 2013 um 16:38 Uhr Von: "Manuel Schneider" <manuel.schneider@wikimedia.ch> An: "Discussion for At-Large Europe" <euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] R: GA Minutes
Hi,
maybe it is because that mail was HTML only? While mail clients send HTML in a multi-part format with plain text along with it, most listservers are configured to strip HTML. So I guess what happens here is a unfortunate combination of a mailclient that sends HTML only (w/o plain text) and mailman that strips the HTML, leaving an empty mail body only.
Annette: Can you try sending the mail as plain text? Some mail client allow it to change this for an individual mail only.
Staff /could/ allow Mailman to forward HTML mail, even though that is discouraged.
/Manuel
Am 24.06.2013 16:29, schrieb "W. Hülsmann (DVD e.V.)":
there is a very suspect function of the mailing list server. I stand next to annette as she was writing the mail to the euralo list. And I can asure you: There has been some content!
@staff: Can you please check, if there is a misfunction? Or if there is a filter on the list, which don't like some of annettes text.
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Dear all, 1) I have published the bylaws on the wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/Articles+of+Association 2) according to the information I found in old mails and voting procedures I have adopted these bylaws: https://community.icann.org/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=41891739&... Please check if everything is in order. Thanks, Manuel Am 21.06.2013 11:44, schrieb "W. Hülsmann (DVD e.V.)":
I don't think, that you send the final bylaws because they where changend in spring 2011. This isn't mentioned in the Bylaws you sent (see in particular 9.5.1).
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Hi all, I'm sorry to miss the deadline when traveling. Here's my 2 (euro)cents: The Articles of Association (bylaws) are clear about the need for majority. Furthermore, I don't think that voting for None Of The Above equals abstaining. Whether one votes for NOTE or leaves a blank or spoilt ballot one does participate and must be counted as such in the total. IMO, since the (first round of) voting in Lisbon was inconclusive, we now need to have a second round by e-mail between the two candidates who received the most votes in the first round (Oksana and Julia, since NOTE was not a candidate) Best, Yrjö Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:38:07 +0200 From: wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net To: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: staff@atlarge.icann.org; egov@annette-muehlberg.de Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Discussions at tonight’s Board meeting and Bylaws Dear all, as discussed and decided tonight at our extraordinary Board meeting after the Lisbon Gala dinner, attached please find a copy of the final version of the EURALO Bylaws. Regarding the question whether the Wednesday’s voting result under Agenda point B 9 b complied with respective Bylaws prescriptions (as some Board members assumed), please see and verify Bylaws article 11.20 For all elections in the General Assembly, candidates shall require an absolute majority of votes of the participating members. If no candidate receives an absolute majority a run-off election shall take place between the two candidates with the greatest number of votes. (I think it’s the one Rudi referred to) And as noted before, the number of votes of the participating members (incl. proxy votes) was 28. It’s now on the members listed tonight (Yrjö, Oliver, Olivier, Jordi and Stefan) to interpret this and related prescriptions and to communicate their conclusions until Friday, 14:00 local Lisbon time – incl. whether further steps need to be taken. Thanks for your advice! I will forward you the list / summary of the EURALO thematic priorities, as discussed and defined under Agenda point C 11 at our Wednesday’s GA, by tomorrow. Kind regards, Wolf EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
Hello, We just finish the last meeting in Lisbon. All the meetings where very good. Both Euralo GA and Eurodig. Thanks to Wolf and Sandra (and other) who were very much involved in both. I would like to take some time off today. But as soon as I come back to my computer I will suggest a way forward regarding the question of the selection of the leaders of Euralo. It will be open for discussion (of course). Since then, may I ask you to refrain from commenting on the list? Thanks Spend a good WE. All the best Sébastien Bachollet +33 6 07 66 89 33 Blog: http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/ Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien@bachollet.com> Le 22/06/13 12:32, « Yrjö Länsipuro » <yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com> a écrit :
Hi all, I'm sorry to miss the deadline when traveling. Here's my 2 (euro)cents: The Articles of Association (bylaws) are clear about the need for majority. Furthermore, I don't think that voting for None Of The Above equals abstaining. Whether one votes for NOTE or leaves a blank or spoilt ballot one does participate and must be counted as such in the total. IMO, since the (first round of) voting in Lisbon was inconclusive, we now need to have a second round by e-mail between the two candidates who received the most votes in the first round (Oksana and Julia, since NOTE was not a candidate) Best, Yrjö
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:38:07 +0200 From: wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net To: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: staff@atlarge.icann.org; egov@annette-muehlberg.de Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Discussions at tonight¹s Board meeting and Bylaws
Dear all,
as discussed and decided tonight at our extraordinary Board meeting after the Lisbon Gala dinner, attached please find a copy of the final version of the EURALO Bylaws.
Regarding the question whether the Wednesday¹s voting result under Agenda point B 9 b complied with respective Bylaws prescriptions (as some Board members assumed), please see and verify Bylaws article
11.20 For all elections in the General Assembly, candidates shall require an absolute majority of votes of the participating members. If no candidate receives an absolute majority a run-off election shall take place between the two candidates with the greatest number of votes. (I think it¹s the one Rudi referred to)
And as noted before, the number of votes of the participating members (incl. proxy votes) was 28.
It¹s now on the members listed tonight (Yrjö, Oliver, Olivier, Jordi and Stefan) to interpret this and related prescriptions and to communicate their conclusions until Friday, 14:00 local Lisbon time incl. whether further steps need to be taken. Thanks for your advice!
I will forward you the list / summary of the EURALO thematic priorities, as discussed and defined under Agenda point C 11 at our Wednesday¹s GA, by tomorrow.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
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Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
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Hello to all, I agree with Yrjö on all accounts. I would add that it is of upmost importance that Euralo settles this matter internally ASAP. An external challenge would be detrimental to the credibility of Euralo. Patrick On 22/06/13 12:32, Yrjö Länsipuro wrote:
Hi all, I'm sorry to miss the deadline when traveling. Here's my 2 (euro)cents: The Articles of Association (bylaws) are clear about the need for majority. Furthermore, I don't think that voting for None Of The Above equals abstaining. Whether one votes for NOTE or leaves a blank or spoilt ballot one does participate and must be counted as such in the total. IMO, since the (first round of) voting in Lisbon was inconclusive, we now need to have a second round by e-mail between the two candidates who received the most votes in the first round (Oksana and Julia, since NOTE was not a candidate) Best, Yrjö
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:38:07 +0200 From: wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net To: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: staff@atlarge.icann.org; egov@annette-muehlberg.de Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Discussions at tonight’s Board meeting and Bylaws
Dear all,
as discussed and decided tonight at our extraordinary Board meeting after the Lisbon Gala dinner, attached please find a copy of the final version of the EURALO Bylaws.
Regarding the question whether the Wednesday’s voting result under Agenda point B 9 b complied with respective Bylaws prescriptions (as some Board members assumed), please see and verify Bylaws article
11.20 For all elections in the General Assembly, candidates shall require an absolute majority of votes of the participating members. If no candidate receives an absolute majority a run-off election shall take place between the two candidates with the greatest number of votes. (I think it’s the one Rudi referred to)
And as noted before, the number of votes of the participating members (incl. proxy votes) was 28.
It’s now on the members listed tonight (Yrjö, Oliver, Olivier, Jordi and Stefan) to interpret this and related prescriptions and to communicate their conclusions until Friday, 14:00 local Lisbon time – incl. whether further steps need to be taken. Thanks for your advice!
I will forward you the list / summary of the EURALO thematic priorities, as discussed and defined under Agenda point C 11 at our Wednesday’s GA, by tomorrow.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
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+1 Bill On Jun 22, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Patrick Vande Walle <patrick@vande-walle.eu> wrote:
Hello to all,
I agree with Yrjö on all accounts.
I would add that it is of upmost importance that Euralo settles this matter internally ASAP. An external challenge would be detrimental to the credibility of Euralo.
Patrick
On 22/06/13 12:32, Yrjö Länsipuro wrote:
Hi all, I'm sorry to miss the deadline when traveling. Here's my 2 (euro)cents: The Articles of Association (bylaws) are clear about the need for majority. Furthermore, I don't think that voting for None Of The Above equals abstaining. Whether one votes for NOTE or leaves a blank or spoilt ballot one does participate and must be counted as such in the total. IMO, since the (first round of) voting in Lisbon was inconclusive, we now need to have a second round by e-mail between the two candidates who received the most votes in the first round (Oksana and Julia, since NOTE was not a candidate) Best, Yrjö
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:38:07 +0200 From: wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net To: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: staff@atlarge.icann.org; egov@annette-muehlberg.de Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Discussions at tonight’s Board meeting and Bylaws
Dear all,
as discussed and decided tonight at our extraordinary Board meeting after the Lisbon Gala dinner, attached please find a copy of the final version of the EURALO Bylaws.
Regarding the question whether the Wednesday’s voting result under Agenda point B 9 b complied with respective Bylaws prescriptions (as some Board members assumed), please see and verify Bylaws article
11.20 For all elections in the General Assembly, candidates shall require an absolute majority of votes of the participating members. If no candidate receives an absolute majority a run-off election shall take place between the two candidates with the greatest number of votes. (I think it’s the one Rudi referred to)
And as noted before, the number of votes of the participating members (incl. proxy votes) was 28.
It’s now on the members listed tonight (Yrjö, Oliver, Olivier, Jordi and Stefan) to interpret this and related prescriptions and to communicate their conclusions until Friday, 14:00 local Lisbon time – incl. whether further steps need to be taken. Thanks for your advice!
I will forward you the list / summary of the EURALO thematic priorities, as discussed and defined under Agenda point C 11 at our Wednesday’s GA, by tomorrow.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
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"W. Hülsmann (DVD e.V.)" -
Annette Muehlberg -
Manuel Schneider -
Patrick Vande Walle -
Roberto Gaetano -
Sébastien Bachollet -
William Drake -
Wolf Ludwig -
Yrjö Länsipuro