apologies, Working Group on EURALO Bylaws revision
Dear all, I have to apologise for not being able to participate in EURALO teleconference again - I am still waiting for Ombudsman answer. I propose to create WG on EURALO Bylaws revision - asap. I am in. Best regards, Oksana
Dear all, I will not be able to attend the call either, Apologies, Plamena 2015-02-22 21:49 GMT+02:00 Oksana Prykhodko <sana.pryhod@gmail.com>:
Dear all,
I have to apologise for not being able to participate in EURALO teleconference again - I am still waiting for Ombudsman answer.
I propose to create WG on EURALO Bylaws revision - asap.
I am in.
Best regards, Oksana _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss
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Hello, this is just to confirm that we discussed the issue of EURALO Bylaws revision under agenda item 7 tonight and the suggestion to create a WG. On tonight's call participants expressed no urgency or immediate need for this. Let me just recapitulate some considerations from May 2014, before our last GA in London: "We realized long time ago some "problems" with the EURALO Bylaws when we amended them in spring 2011 (before the Belgrade GA). Most EURALO insiders are aware that the Bylaws are *too long, bulky, overloaded and according to rigid German association law standards* under which they were drafted in 2006. Over the years we realized that many parts and prescriptions do not correspond with our functioning and realities or on a regular level -- on the other hand, they *do not restrain* our functioning neither. Therefore, such "revision" of our Bylaws would mainly mean *reduction to the essentials* but not rewriting of the Bylaws as such. And if we do so, this must be done by a small group of people who are experienced and familiar with different association law standards and regimes. Such a work would mean a cutting down from heavy and rigid German standards to "simple and easy to handle" Swiss standards which are well recognized for this. And I think, almost everybody has understood so far that such a work or special task cannot be done during a General Assembly but as outlined above! Furthermore, I really think we have plenty of other (functioning) problems which are far more urgent to be discussed than Bylaws revision -- what is a "nice to have" compared with.” If people who have not been on our call tonight feel an immediate need for such a WG and are willing to participate in it, please let us know. Thanks and best regards, Wolf Oksana Prykhodko wrote Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:49:
Dear all,
I have to apologise for not being able to participate in EURALO teleconference again - I am still waiting for Ombudsman answer.
I propose to create WG on EURALO Bylaws revision - asap.
I am in.
Best regards, Oksana _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss
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Sorry for having missed the call. What could be useful is to build a bullet point list of the problems that we are trying to fix by changing the bylaws. In other words, if changing the bylaws is the solution, what is the problem? Cheers R Inviato da iPhone
Il giorno 25.02.2015, alle ore 04:32, Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net> ha scritto:
Hello,
this is just to confirm that we discussed the issue of EURALO Bylaws revision under agenda item 7 tonight and the suggestion to create a WG. On tonight's call participants expressed no urgency or immediate need for this.
Let me just recapitulate some considerations from May 2014, before our last GA in London: "We realized long time ago some "problems" with the EURALO Bylaws when we amended them in spring 2011 (before the Belgrade GA). Most EURALO insiders are aware that the Bylaws are *too long, bulky, overloaded and according to rigid German association law standards* under which they were drafted in 2006. Over the years we realized that many parts and prescriptions do not correspond with our functioning and realities or on a regular level -- on the other hand, they *do not restrain* our functioning neither.
Therefore, such "revision" of our Bylaws would mainly mean *reduction to the essentials* but not rewriting of the Bylaws as such. And if we do so, this must be done by a small group of people who are experienced and familiar with different association law standards and regimes. Such a work would mean a cutting down from heavy and rigid German standards to "simple and easy to handle" Swiss standards which are well recognized for this.
And I think, almost everybody has understood so far that such a work or special task cannot be done during a General Assembly but as outlined above! Furthermore, I really think we have plenty of other (functioning) problems which are far more urgent to be discussed than Bylaws revision -- what is a "nice to have" compared with.”
If people who have not been on our call tonight feel an immediate need for such a WG and are willing to participate in it, please let us know. Thanks and
best regards, Wolf
Oksana Prykhodko wrote Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:49:
Dear all,
I have to apologise for not being able to participate in EURALO teleconference again - I am still waiting for Ombudsman answer.
I propose to create WG on EURALO Bylaws revision - asap.
I am in.
Best regards, Oksana _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss
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Dear Roberto, thanks for your follow-up. I suggested that Wolf publicises the announcement below to see if there were any volunteers who would be interested in performing this first analysis. Many of us are so busy elsewhere that we are not able to lead this first step so volunteers are welcome! Kindest regards, Olivier On 25/02/2015 02:56, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
Sorry for having missed the call. What could be useful is to build a bullet point list of the problems that we are trying to fix by changing the bylaws. In other words, if changing the bylaws is the solution, what is the problem? Cheers R
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Il giorno 25.02.2015, alle ore 04:32, Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net> ha scritto:
Hello,
this is just to confirm that we discussed the issue of EURALO Bylaws revision under agenda item 7 tonight and the suggestion to create a WG. On tonight's call participants expressed no urgency or immediate need for this.
Let me just recapitulate some considerations from May 2014, before our last GA in London: "We realized long time ago some "problems" with the EURALO Bylaws when we amended them in spring 2011 (before the Belgrade GA). Most EURALO insiders are aware that the Bylaws are *too long, bulky, overloaded and according to rigid German association law standards* under which they were drafted in 2006. Over the years we realized that many parts and prescriptions do not correspond with our functioning and realities or on a regular level -- on the other hand, they *do not restrain* our functioning neither.
Therefore, such "revision" of our Bylaws would mainly mean *reduction to the essentials* but not rewriting of the Bylaws as such. And if we do so, this must be done by a small group of people who are experienced and familiar with different association law standards and regimes. Such a work would mean a cutting down from heavy and rigid German standards to "simple and easy to handle" Swiss standards which are well recognized for this.
And I think, almost everybody has understood so far that such a work or special task cannot be done during a General Assembly but as outlined above! Furthermore, I really think we have plenty of other (functioning) problems which are far more urgent to be discussed than Bylaws revision -- what is a "nice to have" compared with.”
If people who have not been on our call tonight feel an immediate need for such a WG and are willing to participate in it, please let us know. Thanks and
best regards, Wolf
Oksana Prykhodko wrote Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:49:
Dear all,
I have to apologise for not being able to participate in EURALO teleconference again - I am still waiting for Ombudsman answer.
I propose to create WG on EURALO Bylaws revision - asap.
I am in.
Best regards, Oksana _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss
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participants (5)
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Oksana Prykhodko -
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond -
Plamena Popova -
Roberto Gaetano -
Wolf Ludwig