Important: Lisbon GA planning and procedures
Dear all, until the end of the registration deadline for the Lisbon 2013 GA, we have received 27 confirmations from our members what is more than 80 per cent of the current total (33). Thanks for your support! These 27 participants were listed and sent to At-Large Staff and ICANN Constituency Travel who is preparing the booking arrangements with you at the moment. I assume, you will be contacted directly by CT during the next two weeks to handle your flight bookings with them. A complete list of travellers you can find here https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+to+t... Please check names, ALS and preferred “home” airport again and let us know any changes needed. Your hotel rooms in Lisbon are pre-booked already for the nights from Wednesday 19 and 20 June (incl. EuroDIG) in the Altis hotel what will be the venue for the GA and EuroDIG – see: http://www.altishotels.com/EN/ For Per diem arrangements you will be contacted at a later stage. Please be aware that due to the high percentage of participation, our travel budget is rather tight and we can only offer low budget flights (by Easyjet and the like) wherever possible. But for short-distance flights to Lisbon we consider this as acceptable. To get an idea about potential adventures aspects of it, you can check the YouTube clip ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM As indicated before, those of you who would like to extend their stay in Lisbon for a cosy summer weekend should arrange this directly with CT for your individual booking – what shouldn’t effect higher flight fares however. Extra costs for hotel nights in Lisbon will be on your own expenses as well. The planning and preparation of our Lisbon GA agenda will be discussed at our upcoming monthly calls (March and April). Besides the usual and statutory parts of the GA (Board report, re-elections etc.), we would like to draft an interesting *content part* with issues that are relevant for and desired by YOU. Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!) For any further questions on practical issues, org. and planning procedure or the agenda, please let me know. Kind regards, Wolf EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
Thanks Wolf, Nice that we can also attend the Eurodig meetings. Interesting concept agenda! Lots of those issues are on the EU and Dutch political agenda. Please give me an email if you have any recommendations for the preparation (also political and / or governmental). We have several polical and legal contacts, so I'm happy if we can use them to achieve our common goals. Best regards, Dick Op 13 mrt. 2013 18:16 schreef "Wolf Ludwig" <wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net> het volgende:
Dear all,
until the end of the registration deadline for the Lisbon 2013 GA, we have received 27 confirmations from our members what is more than 80 per cent of the current total (33). Thanks for your support!
These 27 participants were listed and sent to At-Large Staff and ICANN Constituency Travel who is preparing the booking arrangements with you at the moment. I assume, you will be contacted directly by CT during the next two weeks to handle your flight bookings with them. A complete list of travellers you can find here
https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+to+t... Please check names, ALS and preferred “home” airport again and let us know any changes needed.
Your hotel rooms in Lisbon are pre-booked already for the nights from Wednesday 19 and 20 June (incl. EuroDIG) in the Altis hotel what will be the venue for the GA and EuroDIG – see: http://www.altishotels.com/EN/
For Per diem arrangements you will be contacted at a later stage.
Please be aware that due to the high percentage of participation, our travel budget is rather tight and we can only offer low budget flights (by Easyjet and the like) wherever possible. But for short-distance flights to Lisbon we consider this as acceptable. To get an idea about potential adventures aspects of it, you can check the YouTube clip ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM
As indicated before, those of you who would like to extend their stay in Lisbon for a cosy summer weekend should arrange this directly with CT for your individual booking – what shouldn’t effect higher flight fares however. Extra costs for hotel nights in Lisbon will be on your own expenses as well.
The planning and preparation of our Lisbon GA agenda will be discussed at our upcoming monthly calls (March and April). Besides the usual and statutory parts of the GA (Board report, re-elections etc.), we would like to draft an interesting *content part* with issues that are relevant for and desired by YOU. Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)
For any further questions on practical issues, org. and planning procedure or the agenda, please let me know.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
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Hi all, Wolf wrote: "Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)" I propose we discuss how the participation process within EURALO can be improved or revitalised. The .health objection process was a good example that there is no working mechanism to gather feedback form At-Large or have a discussion on an issue where the ALAC is supposed to vote on in the interest of the end user? Questions to be considered (but not limited to): - Are ALS´es aware of the issues currently under discussion at ALAC / ICANN? If not, why? - How can EURALO fulfil it's mandate to represent the end user voice? - How can we better link the levels of At-Large and ALAC? - Is email the right communication tool, if not what are the alternatives? Are there any? - How can ALS activities be linked to ICANN discussions and the other way round? Best Sandra -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Wolf Ludwig Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. März 2013 18:12 An: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Cc: matthieu.camus@isoc.fr; Nacho Amadoz; Oliver Passek Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Important: Lisbon GA planning and procedures Wichtigkeit: Hoch Dear all, until the end of the registration deadline for the Lisbon 2013 GA, we have received 27 confirmations from our members what is more than 80 per cent of the current total (33). Thanks for your support! These 27 participants were listed and sent to At-Large Staff and ICANN Constituency Travel who is preparing the booking arrangements with you at the moment. I assume, you will be contacted directly by CT during the next two weeks to handle your flight bookings with them. A complete list of travellers you can find here https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+to+t... Please check names, ALS and preferred “home” airport again and let us know any changes needed. Your hotel rooms in Lisbon are pre-booked already for the nights from Wednesday 19 and 20 June (incl. EuroDIG) in the Altis hotel what will be the venue for the GA and EuroDIG – see: http://www.altishotels.com/EN/ For Per diem arrangements you will be contacted at a later stage. Please be aware that due to the high percentage of participation, our travel budget is rather tight and we can only offer low budget flights (by Easyjet and the like) wherever possible. But for short-distance flights to Lisbon we consider this as acceptable. To get an idea about potential adventures aspects of it, you can check the YouTube clip ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM As indicated before, those of you who would like to extend their stay in Lisbon for a cosy summer weekend should arrange this directly with CT for your individual booking – what shouldn’t effect higher flight fares however. Extra costs for hotel nights in Lisbon will be on your own expenses as well. The planning and preparation of our Lisbon GA agenda will be discussed at our upcoming monthly calls (March and April). Besides the usual and statutory parts of the GA (Board report, re-elections etc.), we would like to draft an interesting *content part* with issues that are relevant for and desired by YOU. Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!) For any further questions on practical issues, org. and planning procedure or the agenda, please let me know. Kind regards, Wolf EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org
Dear all, I would like to support all Sandra's proposition and to add some more aspects. Situation with .health was really very illustrative. ICANN was extremely interested to know what we all (including Ukrainian ALSes) think on this objection process. I do not know anybody in Ukraine, who cares about this .health (except Alexander Kondaurov, who, as a member of WG, spent a lot of his time and efforts to analyze this issue). At the same time, nobody in ICANN is interested to know, what we, Ukrainian ALSes, think about the delegation of Ukrainian IDN .ykp. http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-28feb13-en.htm#2.... Despite we shared with a lot of ICANN/ALAC/At-Large representatives all our concerns regarding this delegation. Of course we have our own responsibility for missing the agenda of this Board meeting. But even now, what transparency and accountability we are talking about? How did Sebastien vote in this case? How did Bertrand vote? What documents were submitted to the board by Ukrainian apllicant? Now both EMP and InAU are members of the Advisory Committee on top level domains at National Regulator. And we really would like to help to bridge different national stakeholders between themselves and with ICANN. In more general case, it is the question how national ALSes can help in communication between ICANN and end users regarding national issues. Do ALSes have any additional rights, responsibilities, tools of communication or even dispute resolutions? One again - I do not propose just now to discuss any specific issues. Just the role of any ALS regarding both ICANN and local Internet community. Best regards, Oksana 2013/3/14 sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu>:
Hi all,
Wolf wrote: "Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)"
I propose we discuss how the participation process within EURALO can be improved or revitalised. The .health objection process was a good example that there is no working mechanism to gather feedback form At-Large or have a discussion on an issue where the ALAC is supposed to vote on in the interest of the end user?
Questions to be considered (but not limited to):
- Are ALS´es aware of the issues currently under discussion at ALAC / ICANN? If not, why? - How can EURALO fulfil it's mandate to represent the end user voice? - How can we better link the levels of At-Large and ALAC? - Is email the right communication tool, if not what are the alternatives? Are there any? - How can ALS activities be linked to ICANN discussions and the other way round?
Best Sandra
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Wolf Ludwig Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. März 2013 18:12 An: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Cc: matthieu.camus@isoc.fr; Nacho Amadoz; Oliver Passek Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Important: Lisbon GA planning and procedures Wichtigkeit: Hoch
Dear all,
until the end of the registration deadline for the Lisbon 2013 GA, we have received 27 confirmations from our members what is more than 80 per cent of the current total (33). Thanks for your support!
These 27 participants were listed and sent to At-Large Staff and ICANN Constituency Travel who is preparing the booking arrangements with you at the moment. I assume, you will be contacted directly by CT during the next two weeks to handle your flight bookings with them. A complete list of travellers you can find here https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+to+t... Please check names, ALS and preferred “home” airport again and let us know any changes needed.
Your hotel rooms in Lisbon are pre-booked already for the nights from Wednesday 19 and 20 June (incl. EuroDIG) in the Altis hotel what will be the venue for the GA and EuroDIG – see: http://www.altishotels.com/EN/
For Per diem arrangements you will be contacted at a later stage.
Please be aware that due to the high percentage of participation, our travel budget is rather tight and we can only offer low budget flights (by Easyjet and the like) wherever possible. But for short-distance flights to Lisbon we consider this as acceptable. To get an idea about potential adventures aspects of it, you can check the YouTube clip ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM
As indicated before, those of you who would like to extend their stay in Lisbon for a cosy summer weekend should arrange this directly with CT for your individual booking – what shouldn’t effect higher flight fares however. Extra costs for hotel nights in Lisbon will be on your own expenses as well.
The planning and preparation of our Lisbon GA agenda will be discussed at our upcoming monthly calls (March and April). Besides the usual and statutory parts of the GA (Board report, re-elections etc.), we would like to draft an interesting *content part* with issues that are relevant for and desired by YOU. Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)
For any further questions on practical issues, org. and planning procedure or the agenda, please let me know.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
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Hi Sandra's proposal makes a lot of sense to me. Best Bill On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:10 AM, sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
Wolf wrote: "Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)"
I propose we discuss how the participation process within EURALO can be improved or revitalised. The .health objection process was a good example that there is no working mechanism to gather feedback form At-Large or have a discussion on an issue where the ALAC is supposed to vote on in the interest of the end user?
Questions to be considered (but not limited to):
- Are ALS´es aware of the issues currently under discussion at ALAC / ICANN? If not, why? - How can EURALO fulfil it's mandate to represent the end user voice? - How can we better link the levels of At-Large and ALAC? - Is email the right communication tool, if not what are the alternatives? Are there any? - How can ALS activities be linked to ICANN discussions and the other way round?
Best Sandra
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Wolf Ludwig Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. März 2013 18:12 An: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Cc: matthieu.camus@isoc.fr; Nacho Amadoz; Oliver Passek Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Important: Lisbon GA planning and procedures Wichtigkeit: Hoch
Dear all,
until the end of the registration deadline for the Lisbon 2013 GA, we have received 27 confirmations from our members what is more than 80 per cent of the current total (33). Thanks for your support!
These 27 participants were listed and sent to At-Large Staff and ICANN Constituency Travel who is preparing the booking arrangements with you at the moment. I assume, you will be contacted directly by CT during the next two weeks to handle your flight bookings with them. A complete list of travellers you can find here https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+to+t... Please check names, ALS and preferred “home” airport again and let us know any changes needed.
Your hotel rooms in Lisbon are pre-booked already for the nights from Wednesday 19 and 20 June (incl. EuroDIG) in the Altis hotel what will be the venue for the GA and EuroDIG – see: http://www.altishotels.com/EN/
For Per diem arrangements you will be contacted at a later stage.
Please be aware that due to the high percentage of participation, our travel budget is rather tight and we can only offer low budget flights (by Easyjet and the like) wherever possible. But for short-distance flights to Lisbon we consider this as acceptable. To get an idea about potential adventures aspects of it, you can check the YouTube clip ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM
As indicated before, those of you who would like to extend their stay in Lisbon for a cosy summer weekend should arrange this directly with CT for your individual booking – what shouldn’t effect higher flight fares however. Extra costs for hotel nights in Lisbon will be on your own expenses as well.
The planning and preparation of our Lisbon GA agenda will be discussed at our upcoming monthly calls (March and April). Besides the usual and statutory parts of the GA (Board report, re-elections etc.), we would like to draft an interesting *content part* with issues that are relevant for and desired by YOU. Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)
For any further questions on practical issues, org. and planning procedure or the agenda, please let me know.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
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Hi all, Sandra's list of questions is a good basis for discussing how to improve the participation of European ALS's in dealing with substantive, sometimes even operational issues like .health. There may be more of that kind when the new gTLD process goes on. Such a discussion is urgently needed. As it was suggested tonight on the EURALO call, we have to concentrate on issues that are of real importance to end users. We don't need to spend precious time of our calls on issues that are far removed from that context, very few of us even understand and nobody wants to comment on. I hope we could devote a part of each call to a substantive discussion on whatever issue is deemed to be important from an end user point of view. As far as communication tools are concerned, the simpler the better. Plain old e-mail is OK, if the topic is interesting enough. As ALS's, we have to try to find out what internet end users in our country/area really think about issues at stake. We are not opinion research institutions and can't afford to commission such studies. But we have our contacts, our networks, our ability to raise an issue and stir a debate. My 2 (€)cents, Yrjö
From: william.drake@uzh.ch Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:12:39 +0100 To: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Important: Lisbon GA planning and procedures
Hi
Sandra's proposal makes a lot of sense to me.
Best
Bill
On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:10 AM, sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
Wolf wrote: "Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)"
I propose we discuss how the participation process within EURALO can be improved or revitalised. The .health objection process was a good example that there is no working mechanism to gather feedback form At-Large or have a discussion on an issue where the ALAC is supposed to vote on in the interest of the end user?
Questions to be considered (but not limited to):
- Are ALS´es aware of the issues currently under discussion at ALAC / ICANN? If not, why? - How can EURALO fulfil it's mandate to represent the end user voice? - How can we better link the levels of At-Large and ALAC? - Is email the right communication tool, if not what are the alternatives? Are there any? - How can ALS activities be linked to ICANN discussions and the other way round?
Best Sandra
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Wolf Ludwig Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. März 2013 18:12 An: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Cc: matthieu.camus@isoc.fr; Nacho Amadoz; Oliver Passek Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Important: Lisbon GA planning and procedures Wichtigkeit: Hoch
Dear all,
until the end of the registration deadline for the Lisbon 2013 GA, we have received 27 confirmations from our members what is more than 80 per cent of the current total (33). Thanks for your support!
These 27 participants were listed and sent to At-Large Staff and ICANN Constituency Travel who is preparing the booking arrangements with you at the moment. I assume, you will be contacted directly by CT during the next two weeks to handle your flight bookings with them. A complete list of travellers you can find here https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+to+t... Please check names, ALS and preferred “home” airport again and let us know any changes needed.
Your hotel rooms in Lisbon are pre-booked already for the nights from Wednesday 19 and 20 June (incl. EuroDIG) in the Altis hotel what will be the venue for the GA and EuroDIG – see: http://www.altishotels.com/EN/
For Per diem arrangements you will be contacted at a later stage.
Please be aware that due to the high percentage of participation, our travel budget is rather tight and we can only offer low budget flights (by Easyjet and the like) wherever possible. But for short-distance flights to Lisbon we consider this as acceptable. To get an idea about potential adventures aspects of it, you can check the YouTube clip ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM
As indicated before, those of you who would like to extend their stay in Lisbon for a cosy summer weekend should arrange this directly with CT for your individual booking – what shouldn’t effect higher flight fares however. Extra costs for hotel nights in Lisbon will be on your own expenses as well.
The planning and preparation of our Lisbon GA agenda will be discussed at our upcoming monthly calls (March and April). Besides the usual and statutory parts of the GA (Board report, re-elections etc.), we would like to draft an interesting *content part* with issues that are relevant for and desired by YOU. Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)
For any further questions on practical issues, org. and planning procedure or the agenda, please let me know.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
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Hi everybody, I fully support Sandra's points and Yrjo's comments and I further add my 2 cents, though this may lead to addressing and debating the issues already, even before the GA.
From my own (short) personal experience as ALS representative in EURALO, I think it all comes down to 2 main issues - and respectively finding the proper means to improve and stimulate:
1. Communication with the ALS representatives. And here I don't mean necessarily the tools for communication -email, wiki, conference call - but rather the message itself, that needs to be fully understood in order to trigger a reaction. And here I think the question(s) would be how to convey the importance of certain topics and debates for the ALSs and how to translate the ICANN jargon (not only the acronyms, but often the substance as well) to get the meaning easier, who should do that and at what cost (of time and energy). This also implies an effort to learn from the ALS representatives part, since the communication needs to be both ways - and this links to the next issue: 2. The interests and area of expertise of the ALS organisation in general and ALS representative in particular. I think that the recipe for a (meaningful) participation in ICANN debates is the matchmaking between the ALS (organisation and representative) activity and the ICANN topic. And here I mean at a more specific level, not the general user interest that any ALS is supposed to follow. Through their membership and activity, each ALS has a certain footprint and its representative in EURALO bears this footprint along with his/her personal expertise (technical, legal, policy, human rights, etc.). Maybe it would be useful to identify and map the EURALO members interests and expertise with the occasion of this General Assembly in order to facilitate somehow this matchmaking in the future? I hope I made some sense and looking forward to discuss more at the GA or in preparation of the GA. Best, Adela On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Yrjö Länsipuro <yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi all, Sandra's list of questions is a good basis for discussing how to improve the participation of European ALS's in dealing with substantive, sometimes even operational issues like .health. There may be more of that kind when the new gTLD process goes on. Such a discussion is urgently needed. As it was suggested tonight on the EURALO call, we have to concentrate on issues that are of real importance to end users. We don't need to spend precious time of our calls on issues that are far removed from that context, very few of us even understand and nobody wants to comment on. I hope we could devote a part of each call to a substantive discussion on whatever issue is deemed to be important from an end user point of view. As far as communication tools are concerned, the simpler the better. Plain old e-mail is OK, if the topic is interesting enough. As ALS's, we have to try to find out what internet end users in our country/area really think about issues at stake. We are not opinion research institutions and can't afford to commission such studies. But we have our contacts, our networks, our ability to raise an issue and stir a debate. My 2 (€)cents, Yrjö
From: william.drake@uzh.ch Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:12:39 +0100 To: euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Important: Lisbon GA planning and procedures
Hi
Sandra's proposal makes a lot of sense to me.
Best
Bill
On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:10 AM, sandra hoferichter <info@hoferichter.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
Wolf wrote: "Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)"
I propose we discuss how the participation process within EURALO can be improved or revitalised. The .health objection process was a good example that there is no working mechanism to gather feedback form At-Large or have a discussion on an issue where the ALAC is supposed to vote on in the interest of the end user?
Questions to be considered (but not limited to):
- Are ALS´es aware of the issues currently under discussion at ALAC / ICANN? If not, why? - How can EURALO fulfil it's mandate to represent the end user voice? - How can we better link the levels of At-Large and ALAC? - Is email the right communication tool, if not what are the alternatives? Are there any? - How can ALS activities be linked to ICANN discussions and the other way round?
Best Sandra
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Wolf Ludwig Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. März 2013 18:12 An: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Cc: matthieu.camus@isoc.fr; Nacho Amadoz; Oliver Passek Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Important: Lisbon GA planning and procedures Wichtigkeit: Hoch
Dear all,
until the end of the registration deadline for the Lisbon 2013 GA, we have received 27 confirmations from our members what is more than 80 per cent of the current total (33). Thanks for your support!
These 27 participants were listed and sent to At-Large Staff and ICANN Constituency Travel who is preparing the booking arrangements with you at the moment. I assume, you will be contacted directly by CT during the next two weeks to handle your flight bookings with them. A complete list of travellers you can find here
https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+to+t...
Please check names, ALS and preferred “home” airport again and let us know any changes needed.
Your hotel rooms in Lisbon are pre-booked already for the nights from Wednesday 19 and 20 June (incl. EuroDIG) in the Altis hotel what will be the venue for the GA and EuroDIG – see: http://www.altishotels.com/EN/
For Per diem arrangements you will be contacted at a later stage.
Please be aware that due to the high percentage of participation, our travel budget is rather tight and we can only offer low budget flights (by Easyjet and the like) wherever possible. But for short-distance flights to Lisbon we consider this as acceptable. To get an idea about potential adventures aspects of it, you can check the YouTube clip ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM
As indicated before, those of you who would like to extend their stay in Lisbon for a cosy summer weekend should arrange this directly with CT for your individual booking – what shouldn’t effect higher flight fares however. Extra costs for hotel nights in Lisbon will be on your own expenses as well.
The planning and preparation of our Lisbon GA agenda will be discussed at our upcoming monthly calls (March and April). Besides the usual and statutory parts of the GA (Board report, re-elections etc.), we would like to draft an interesting *content part* with issues that are relevant for and desired by YOU. Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)
For any further questions on practical issues, org. and planning procedure or the agenda, please let me know.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
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Hi, I think that his discussion is a very good one. I would like to recommend adding the issue of voting and polling under the subtopic of bullet 2 - "fulfill its mandate to represent the end user voice" . I think this requires a continuous feedback loop, and that is something does not exist anywhere in ICANN. So starting a serious discussion in EURALO GA would be a good thing. avri On 14 Mar 2013, at 06:10, sandra hoferichter wrote:
Hi all,
Wolf wrote: "Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)"
I propose we discuss how the participation process within EURALO can be improved or revitalised. The .health objection process was a good example that there is no working mechanism to gather feedback form At-Large or have a discussion on an issue where the ALAC is supposed to vote on in the interest of the end user?
Questions to be considered (but not limited to):
- Are ALS´es aware of the issues currently under discussion at ALAC / ICANN? If not, why? - How can EURALO fulfil it's mandate to represent the end user voice? - How can we better link the levels of At-Large and ALAC? - Is email the right communication tool, if not what are the alternatives? Are there any? - How can ALS activities be linked to ICANN discussions and the other way round?
Best Sandra
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Wolf Ludwig Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. März 2013 18:12 An: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' Cc: matthieu.camus@isoc.fr; Nacho Amadoz; Oliver Passek Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Important: Lisbon GA planning and procedures Wichtigkeit: Hoch
Dear all,
until the end of the registration deadline for the Lisbon 2013 GA, we have received 27 confirmations from our members what is more than 80 per cent of the current total (33). Thanks for your support!
These 27 participants were listed and sent to At-Large Staff and ICANN Constituency Travel who is preparing the booking arrangements with you at the moment. I assume, you will be contacted directly by CT during the next two weeks to handle your flight bookings with them. A complete list of travellers you can find here https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+to+t... Please check names, ALS and preferred “home” airport again and let us know any changes needed.
Your hotel rooms in Lisbon are pre-booked already for the nights from Wednesday 19 and 20 June (incl. EuroDIG) in the Altis hotel what will be the venue for the GA and EuroDIG – see: http://www.altishotels.com/EN/
For Per diem arrangements you will be contacted at a later stage.
Please be aware that due to the high percentage of participation, our travel budget is rather tight and we can only offer low budget flights (by Easyjet and the like) wherever possible. But for short-distance flights to Lisbon we consider this as acceptable. To get an idea about potential adventures aspects of it, you can check the YouTube clip ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM
As indicated before, those of you who would like to extend their stay in Lisbon for a cosy summer weekend should arrange this directly with CT for your individual booking – what shouldn’t effect higher flight fares however. Extra costs for hotel nights in Lisbon will be on your own expenses as well.
The planning and preparation of our Lisbon GA agenda will be discussed at our upcoming monthly calls (March and April). Besides the usual and statutory parts of the GA (Board report, re-elections etc.), we would like to draft an interesting *content part* with issues that are relevant for and desired by YOU. Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)
For any further questions on practical issues, org. and planning procedure or the agenda, please let me know.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hallo Wolf, Zürich ist ungünstig (da Ausland). Besser wären München oder Berlin. Viele Grüße, Werner Am 13.03.2013 18:11, schrieb Wolf Ludwig:
Dear all,
until the end of the registration deadline for the Lisbon 2013 GA, we have received 27 confirmations from our members what is more than 80 per cent of the current total (33). Thanks for your support!
These 27 participants were listed and sent to At-Large Staff and ICANN Constituency Travel who is preparing the booking arrangements with you at the moment. I assume, you will be contacted directly by CT during the next two weeks to handle your flight bookings with them. A complete list of travellers you can find here https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+to+t...
Please check names, ALS and preferred “home” airport again and let us know any changes needed.
Your hotel rooms in Lisbon are pre-booked already for the nights from Wednesday 19 and 20 June (incl. EuroDIG) in the Altis hotel what will be the venue for the GA and EuroDIG – see: http://www.altishotels.com/EN/
For Per diem arrangements you will be contacted at a later stage.
Please be aware that due to the high percentage of participation, our travel budget is rather tight and we can only offer low budget flights (by Easyjet and the like) wherever possible. But for short-distance flights to Lisbon we consider this as acceptable. To get an idea about potential adventures aspects of it, you can check the YouTube clip ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM
As indicated before, those of you who would like to extend their stay in Lisbon for a cosy summer weekend should arrange this directly with CT for your individual booking – what shouldn’t effect higher flight fares however. Extra costs for hotel nights in Lisbon will be on your own expenses as well.
The planning and preparation of our Lisbon GA agenda will be discussed at our upcoming monthly calls (March and April). Besides the usual and statutory parts of the GA (Board report, re-elections etc.), we would like to draft an interesting *content part* with issues that are relevant for and desired by YOU. Please give us your inputs on the agenda setting and let us know your related ideas ASAP (or until middle of April latest) to compile a complete draft GA agenda in time. (Christoph and Dick submitted their ideas already – thanks!)
For any further questions on practical issues, org. and planning procedure or the agenda, please let me know.
Kind regards, Wolf
EuroDIG Secretariat http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org
Profile on LinkedIn http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig
_______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss
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"W. Hülsmann (DVD e.V.)" -
Adela Danciu -
Avri Doria -
Dick Kalkman -
EMP -
sandra hoferichter -
William Drake -
Wolf Ludwig -
Yrjö Länsipuro