Hi All, I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow’s meeting in addition to this group’s draft charter. It’s a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document. There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make. Using a wiki page doesn’t pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group’s requests to do so. Check this wiki page for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP as an example. It’s a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn’t been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works. As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG’s charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress. I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn’t hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner. Let me know what you think. Thanks. Amr
Dear Amr .. I personally don't mind having a GAC-GNSO CG Wiki, particularly with information sharing, progress updating and transparency in mind .. So if you mean that we need to have it as a viewer-friendly public archive, I don't think anyone would mind .. but if you are proposing it as a collaborative platform for content editing by group members, this is what I was challenging, out of my experience with the GAC .. I stand to be corrected if my above interpretations are not accurate .. But again, to be clear, I'm not against having a Wiki page in principle, and very much welcome the initiative !! Looking forward to hearing what others think .. Kind Regards --Manal From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:28 PM To: GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org Subject: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki Hi All, I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow's meeting in addition to this group's draft charter. It's a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document. There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make. Using a wiki page doesn't pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group's requests to do so. Check this wiki page for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP <https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/Translation+and+Transliter ation+of+Contact+Information+PDP+Home> as an example. It's a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn't been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works. As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG's charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress. I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn't hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner. Let me know what you think. Thanks. Amr
hi all, i agree. i’ve found that wiki’s are a great way to collect the current versions of drafts. looking through Amr’s note, i think this is where he’s headed as well. actually using the wiki as a place to *revise* drafts is harder, but i don’t think Amr is headed that direction. mikey On Feb 25, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Manal Ismail <manal@tra.gov.eg> wrote:
Dear Amr ..
I personally don't mind having a GAC-GNSO CG Wiki, particularly with information sharing, progress updating and transparency in mind ..
So if you mean that we need to have it as a viewer-friendly public archive, I don't think anyone would mind .. but if you are proposing it as a collaborative platform for content editing by group members, this is what I was challenging, out of my experience with the GAC ..
I stand to be corrected if my above interpretations are not accurate .. But again, to be clear, I'm not against having a Wiki page in principle, and very much welcome the initiative !!
Looking forward to hearing what others think ..
Kind Regards --Manal
From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:28 PM To: GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org Subject: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki
Hi All,
I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow’s meeting in addition to this group’s draft charter. It’s a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document.
There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make.
Using a wiki page doesn’t pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group’s requests to do so.
Check this wiki page for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP as an example. It’s a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn’t been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works.
As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG’s charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress.
I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn’t hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks.
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Right you are, Mikey. Posting of current versions is what I had in mind. I had actually intended to use the “thick” WHOIS PDP WG’s wiki as an example. I think it would have been a great one to show the folks on this list. It had the links for the sub-teams and many feedback documents from the community on the charter questions (all final references, not working drafts), but I found out that it had been significantly changed in preparation for the Implementation Review Team. Thanks. Amr On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> wrote:
hi all,
i agree. i’ve found that wiki’s are a great way to collect the current versions of drafts. looking through Amr’s note, i think this is where he’s headed as well.
actually using the wiki as a place to *revise* drafts is harder, but i don’t think Amr is headed that direction.
mikey
On Feb 25, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Manal Ismail <manal@tra.gov.eg> wrote:
Dear Amr ..
I personally don't mind having a GAC-GNSO CG Wiki, particularly with information sharing, progress updating and transparency in mind ..
So if you mean that we need to have it as a viewer-friendly public archive, I don't think anyone would mind .. but if you are proposing it as a collaborative platform for content editing by group members, this is what I was challenging, out of my experience with the GAC ..
I stand to be corrected if my above interpretations are not accurate .. But again, to be clear, I'm not against having a Wiki page in principle, and very much welcome the initiative !!
Looking forward to hearing what others think ..
Kind Regards --Manal
From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:28 PM To: GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org Subject: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki
Hi All,
I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow’s meeting in addition to this group’s draft charter. It’s a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document.
There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make.
Using a wiki page doesn’t pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group’s requests to do so.
Check this wiki page for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP as an example. It’s a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn’t been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works.
As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG’s charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress.
I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn’t hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks.
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Perfect .. then the three of us are on the same page .. Thanks Amr for following-up on this and making your point clear and apologies if I had initially misunderstood your suggestion .. Looking forward to hearing what Jonathan and other colleagues think so that we can proceed .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:06 PM To: Mike O'Connor Cc: Manal Ismail; gac-gnso-cgs@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki Right you are, Mikey. Posting of current versions is what I had in mind. I had actually intended to use the "thick" WHOIS PDP WG's wiki as an example. I think it would have been a great one to show the folks on this list. It had the links for the sub-teams and many feedback documents from the community on the charter questions (all final references, not working drafts), but I found out that it had been significantly changed in preparation for the Implementation Review Team. Thanks. Amr On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> wrote: hi all, i agree. i've found that wiki's are a great way to collect the current versions of drafts. looking through Amr's note, i think this is where he's headed as well. actually using the wiki as a place to *revise* drafts is harder, but i don't think Amr is headed that direction. mikey On Feb 25, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Manal Ismail <manal@tra.gov.eg <mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg> > wrote: Dear Amr .. I personally don't mind having a GAC-GNSO CG Wiki, particularly with information sharing, progress updating and transparency in mind .. So if you mean that we need to have it as a viewer-friendly public archive, I don't think anyone would mind .. but if you are proposing it as a collaborative platform for content editing by group members, this is what I was challenging, out of my experience with the GAC .. I stand to be corrected if my above interpretations are not accurate .. But again, to be clear, I'm not against having a Wiki page in principle, and very much welcome the initiative !! Looking forward to hearing what others think .. Kind Regards --Manal From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:28 PM To: GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org <mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org> Subject: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki Hi All, I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow's meeting in addition to this group's draft charter. It's a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document. There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make. Using a wiki page doesn't pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group's requests to do so. Check this wiki page for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP <https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/Translation+and+Transliter ation+of+Contact+Information+PDP+Home> as an example. It's a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn't been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works. As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG's charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress. I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn't hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner. Let me know what you think. Thanks. 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Hi Manal, Yeah…, you’re right in your first assumption of a viewer-friendly public archive, and certainly not to be used as a collaborative platform. I’ve been doing a lot of reading over the past couple of years on the complexities involved in transitioning co-workers from their preferred methods of interaction to online collaborative platforms, and I like you all too much to put you through something like that. :) Thanks. Amr On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Manal Ismail <manal@tra.gov.eg> wrote:
Dear Amr ..
I personally don't mind having a GAC-GNSO CG Wiki, particularly with information sharing, progress updating and transparency in mind ..
So if you mean that we need to have it as a viewer-friendly public archive, I don't think anyone would mind .. but if you are proposing it as a collaborative platform for content editing by group members, this is what I was challenging, out of my experience with the GAC ..
I stand to be corrected if my above interpretations are not accurate .. But again, to be clear, I'm not against having a Wiki page in principle, and very much welcome the initiative !!
Looking forward to hearing what others think ..
Kind Regards --Manal
From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:28 PM To: GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org Subject: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki
Hi All,
I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow’s meeting in addition to this group’s draft charter. It’s a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document.
There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make.
Using a wiki page doesn’t pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group’s requests to do so.
Check this wiki page for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP as an example. It’s a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn’t been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works.
As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG’s charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress.
I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn’t hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks.
Amr
If there is further support for this idea, staff could create such a page on the GNSO wiki under the heading 'joint SO-AC Working Groups' (see https://community.icann.org/category/gnso)? Best regards, Marika From: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@egyptig.org> Date: Tuesday 25 February 2014 14:00 To: Manal Ismail <manal@tra.gov.eg> Cc: "<gac-gnso-cg@icann.org>" <GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki Hi Manal, Yeah, you¹re right in your first assumption of a viewer-friendly public archive, and certainly not to be used as a collaborative platform. I¹ve been doing a lot of reading over the past couple of years on the complexities involved in transitioning co-workers from their preferred methods of interaction to online collaborative platforms, and I like you all too much to put you through something like that. :) Thanks. Amr On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Manal Ismail <manal@tra.gov.eg> wrote:
Dear Amr ..
I personally don't mind having a GAC-GNSO CG Wiki, particularly with information sharing, progress updating and transparency in mind ..
So if you mean that we need to have it as a viewer-friendly public archive, I don't think anyone would mind .. but if you are proposing it as a collaborative platform for content editing by group members, this is what I was challenging, out of my experience with the GAC ..
I stand to be corrected if my above interpretations are not accurate .. But again, to be clear, I'm not against having a Wiki page in principle, and very much welcome the initiative !!
Looking forward to hearing what others think ..
Kind Regards --Manal
From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:28 PM To: GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org Subject: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki
Hi All,
I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow¹s meeting in addition to this group¹s draft charter. It¹s a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document.
There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make.
Using a wiki page doesn¹t pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group¹s requests to do so.
Check this wiki page for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP <https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/Translation+and+Transliteration... of+Contact+Information+PDP+Home> as an example. It¹s a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn¹t been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works.
As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG¹s charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress.
I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn¹t hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks.
Amr
Thanks Marika .. Always ready to help .. If there is further support from Jonathan and other colleagues, we can proceed .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@icann.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:59 PM To: Amr Elsadr; Manal Ismail Cc: <gac-gnso-cg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki If there is further support for this idea, staff could create such a page on the GNSO wiki under the heading 'joint SO-AC Working Groups' (see https://community.icann.org/category/gnso)? Best regards, Marika From: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@egyptig.org> Date: Tuesday 25 February 2014 14:00 To: Manal Ismail <manal@tra.gov.eg> Cc: "<gac-gnso-cg@icann.org>" <GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki Hi Manal, Yeah..., you're right in your first assumption of a viewer-friendly public archive, and certainly not to be used as a collaborative platform. I've been doing a lot of reading over the past couple of years on the complexities involved in transitioning co-workers from their preferred methods of interaction to online collaborative platforms, and I like you all too much to put you through something like that. :) Thanks. Amr On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Manal Ismail <manal@tra.gov.eg> wrote: Dear Amr .. I personally don't mind having a GAC-GNSO CG Wiki, particularly with information sharing, progress updating and transparency in mind .. So if you mean that we need to have it as a viewer-friendly public archive, I don't think anyone would mind .. but if you are proposing it as a collaborative platform for content editing by group members, this is what I was challenging, out of my experience with the GAC .. I stand to be corrected if my above interpretations are not accurate .. But again, to be clear, I'm not against having a Wiki page in principle, and very much welcome the initiative !! Looking forward to hearing what others think .. Kind Regards --Manal From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:28 PM To: GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org Subject: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki Hi All, I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow's meeting in addition to this group's draft charter. It's a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document. There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make. Using a wiki page doesn't pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group's requests to do so. Check this wiki page for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP <https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/Translation+and+Transliter ation+of+Contact+Information+PDP+Home> as an example. It's a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn't been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works. As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG's charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress. I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn't hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner. Let me know what you think. Thanks. Amr
No objection from me. Thanks, Jonathan From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Manal Ismail Sent: 25 February 2014 14:19 To: Marika Konings; Amr Elsadr Cc: <gac-gnso-cg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki Thanks Marika .. Always ready to help .. If there is further support from Jonathan and other colleagues, we can proceed .. Kind Regards --Manal From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@icann.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:59 PM To: Amr Elsadr; Manal Ismail Cc: <gac-gnso-cg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki If there is further support for this idea, staff could create such a page on the GNSO wiki under the heading 'joint SO-AC Working Groups' (see https://community.icann.org/category/gnso)? Best regards, Marika From: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@egyptig.org> Date: Tuesday 25 February 2014 14:00 To: Manal Ismail <manal@tra.gov.eg> Cc: "<gac-gnso-cg@icann.org>" <GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki Hi Manal, Yeah., you're right in your first assumption of a viewer-friendly public archive, and certainly not to be used as a collaborative platform. I've been doing a lot of reading over the past couple of years on the complexities involved in transitioning co-workers from their preferred methods of interaction to online collaborative platforms, and I like you all too much to put you through something like that. :) Thanks. Amr On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Manal Ismail <manal@tra.gov.eg> wrote: Dear Amr .. I personally don't mind having a GAC-GNSO CG Wiki, particularly with information sharing, progress updating and transparency in mind .. So if you mean that we need to have it as a viewer-friendly public archive, I don't think anyone would mind .. but if you are proposing it as a collaborative platform for content editing by group members, this is what I was challenging, out of my experience with the GAC .. I stand to be corrected if my above interpretations are not accurate .. But again, to be clear, I'm not against having a Wiki page in principle, and very much welcome the initiative !! Looking forward to hearing what others think .. Kind Regards --Manal From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:28 PM To: GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org Subject: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki Hi All, I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow's meeting in addition to this group's draft charter. It's a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document. There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make. Using a wiki page doesn't pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group's requests to do so. Check this wiki page for the <https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/Translation+and+Transliteratio n+of+Contact+Information+PDP+Home> Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP as an example. It's a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn't been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works. As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG's charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress. I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn't hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner. Let me know what you think. Thanks. Amr
participants (5)
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Amr Elsadr -
Jonathan Robinson -
Manal Ismail -
Marika Konings -
Mike O'Connor