Privacy/Proxy RDDS labeling document attached for 14 Feb IRT call
Hello, All, Attached is an initial discussion proposal for Tuesday's IRT call, exploring how we could potentially implement the Final Report's recommendation that, "To the extent that this is feasible, domain name registrations involving P/P service providers should be clearly labelled as such in WHOIS." (See Final Report, p. 9) To summarize, we have explored several possible alternatives for implementing this recommendation. The attached proposes to add four new fields, but also identifies the other possible alternatives that were considered. We are seeking your feedback on any and all elements of this proposal, including (1) the specific fields to be added; (2) the location(s) of the new fields; and (3) ensuring that this can be implemented from an operational perspective (particularly if/when a provider is not affiliated with the registrar). Once we have discussed the new fields and the preferred locations for these fields, we will ensure the final product is consistent with the new CL&D requirements. On Tuesday, I'll run through the proposal briefly and also note the other alternatives that were considered but not included here. The rest of the call will be dedicated to your discussion and feedback on this. Please share any preliminary feedback on the list and I look forward to talking with you on Tuesday. Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Policy Services Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins@icann.org www.icann.org
Amy, did the staff consider alternatives that would not involve any additional new fields -- for instance requiring certain words or characters in entries in existing fields? This would build upon the status quo in which a fairly reliable indication can be gleaned from the Whois record as to whether a proxy/privacy registration is involved. Steve Metalitz On behalf of Coalition for Online Accountability (COA) | www.onlineaccountability.net [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: +1.202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amy Bivins Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 12:27 PM To: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Privacy/Proxy RDDS labeling document attached for 14 Feb IRT call Hello, All, Attached is an initial discussion proposal for Tuesday's IRT call, exploring how we could potentially implement the Final Report's recommendation that, "To the extent that this is feasible, domain name registrations involving P/P service providers should be clearly labelled as such in WHOIS." (See Final Report, p. 9) To summarize, we have explored several possible alternatives for implementing this recommendation. The attached proposes to add four new fields, but also identifies the other possible alternatives that were considered. We are seeking your feedback on any and all elements of this proposal, including (1) the specific fields to be added; (2) the location(s) of the new fields; and (3) ensuring that this can be implemented from an operational perspective (particularly if/when a provider is not affiliated with the registrar). Once we have discussed the new fields and the preferred locations for these fields, we will ensure the final product is consistent with the new CL&D requirements. On Tuesday, I'll run through the proposal briefly and also note the other alternatives that were considered but not included here. The rest of the call will be dedicated to your discussion and feedback on this. Please share any preliminary feedback on the list and I look forward to talking with you on Tuesday. Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Policy Services Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins@icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>
+1 Steve That would be good to know. Though the proposal is very good in the sense that it becomes very clear WHOIS output wise, I am not sure however how that would work with third party service providers in obtaining that information. Something for tomorrow :) On a side note, I did not receive this email, until Steve replied to it. Theo On 13-2-2017 16:44, Metalitz, Steven wrote:
Amy, did the staff consider alternatives that would not involve any additional new fields -- for instance requiring certain words or characters in entries in existing fields? This would build upon the status quo in which a fairly reliable indication can be gleaned from the Whois record as to whether a proxy/privacy registration is involved.
Steve Metalitz
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*From:*gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Amy Bivins *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 12:27 PM *To:* gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org *Subject:* [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Privacy/Proxy RDDS labeling document attached for 14 Feb IRT call
Hello, All,
Attached is an initial discussion proposal for Tuesday’s IRT call, exploring how we could potentially implement the Final Report’s recommendation that, “To the extent that this is feasible, domain name registrations involving P/P service providers should be clearly labelled as such in WHOIS.” (See Final Report, p. 9)
To summarize, we have explored several possible alternatives for implementing this recommendation. The attached proposes to add four new fields, but also identifies the other possible alternatives that were considered.
We are seeking your feedback on any and all elements of this proposal, including (1) the specific fields to be added; (2) the location(s) of the new fields; and (3) ensuring that this can be implemented from an operational perspective (particularly if/when a provider is not affiliated with the registrar). Once we have discussed the new fields and the preferred locations for these fields, we will ensure the final product is consistent with the new CL&D requirements.
On Tuesday, I’ll run through the proposal briefly and also note the other alternatives that were considered but not included here. The rest of the call will be dedicated to your discussion and feedback on this. Please share any preliminary feedback on the list and I look forward to talking with you on Tuesday.
Best, Amy
*Amy E. Bivins*
Registrar Policy Services Manager
Registrar Services and Industry Relations
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551
Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104
Email: amy.bivins@icann.org <mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org>
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I think this proposal is shooting at sparrows with cannons, in other words: it makes too much out of a small thing, it ôverengineers a simple issue. Labeling as such means nothing more that ensuring that when looking at the whois it has to visible that the domain is under privacy. In most cases, this is achieved by saying so in the registrant name sections. Lets try to keep this lightweight without having to send this to our tech teams to achieve something that is already achievable in the current whois. The fields also seem to be over-specific as the WG never specified any information beyond the fact that a privacy service is used to be included in the whois. Best, Volker Am 13.02.2017 um 17:29 schrieb theo geurts:
+1 Steve That would be good to know.
Though the proposal is very good in the sense that it becomes very clear WHOIS output wise, I am not sure however how that would work with third party service providers in obtaining that information.
Something for tomorrow :)
On a side note, I did not receive this email, until Steve replied to it.
Theo
On 13-2-2017 16:44, Metalitz, Steven wrote:
Amy, did the staff consider alternatives that would not involve any additional new fields -- for instance requiring certain words or characters in entries in existing fields? This would build upon the status quo in which a fairly reliable indication can be gleaned from the Whois record as to whether a proxy/privacy registration is involved.
Steve Metalitz
*On behalf of Coalition for Online Accountability (COA) | www.onlineaccountability.net*
**
*image001*
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T: +1.202.355.7902 |met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com>**
*Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp**LLP*|*www.msk.com <http://www.msk.com/>*
1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036
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*From:*gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Amy Bivins *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 12:27 PM *To:* gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org *Subject:* [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Privacy/Proxy RDDS labeling document attached for 14 Feb IRT call
Hello, All,
Attached is an initial discussion proposal for Tuesday’s IRT call, exploring how we could potentially implement the Final Report’s recommendation that, “To the extent that this is feasible, domain name registrations involving P/P service providers should be clearly labelled as such in WHOIS.” (See Final Report, p. 9)
To summarize, we have explored several possible alternatives for implementing this recommendation. The attached proposes to add four new fields, but also identifies the other possible alternatives that were considered.
We are seeking your feedback on any and all elements of this proposal, including (1) the specific fields to be added; (2) the location(s) of the new fields; and (3) ensuring that this can be implemented from an operational perspective (particularly if/when a provider is not affiliated with the registrar). Once we have discussed the new fields and the preferred locations for these fields, we will ensure the final product is consistent with the new CL&D requirements.
On Tuesday, I’ll run through the proposal briefly and also note the other alternatives that were considered but not included here. The rest of the call will be dedicated to your discussion and feedback on this. Please share any preliminary feedback on the list and I look forward to talking with you on Tuesday.
Best, Amy
*Amy E. Bivins*
Registrar Policy Services Manager
Registrar Services and Industry Relations
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551
Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104
Email: amy.bivins@icann.org <mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org>
www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>
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