Survey Reminder - Please Complete
Hello All, I want to thank everyone for a constructive meeting last week. In advance of our meeting on Thursday, I would like to remind everyone to complete the survey. To date only 7 members including myself. Do not worry Volker, I will disclose my vote and remove it from the overall tabulations so as to not influence the final vote. However, consistent with my eat your own dog food style of leadership, I personally complete every task that I ask the group to do. This is where you can go to vote – https://forms.gle/i9JUx45KSRWvktKU6 [forms.gle] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/forms.gle/i9JUx45KSRWvktKU6__;!!PtGJab4! rQG6Xsn6taQEsnZhno3se_bnN0yrUB9v2iNWReklt7NWvLef8aahfIHz_HmxYSmMDQbB2LAa0A$> . Please make sure that you are logged into your google account to be able to participate. To view the responses, you can go here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1huYshCctSE83LjVhU6MMom7oykT3WMIYLjixanQd1L0 /viewanalytics [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/1huYshCctSE83LjV hU6MMom7oykT3WMIYLjixanQd1L0/viewanalytics__;!!PtGJab4!rQG6Xsn6taQEsnZhno3se _bnN0yrUB9v2iNWReklt7NWvLef8aahfIHz_HmxYSmMDQZ-aLZVTQ$> . Best regards, Michael
Hi Michael, it is not your vote I worry about, it is the lack of a viable choice. As it stands, I cannot support either option. Please note my objection (vote against) both definitions. Best, -- Volker A. Greimann General Counsel and Policy Manager *KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH* T: +49 6894 9396901 M: +49 6894 9396851 F: +49 6894 9396851 W: www.key-systems.net Key-Systems GmbH is a company registered at the local court of Saarbruecken, Germany with the registration no. HR B 18835 CEO: Oliver Fries and Robert Birkner Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended only for the person(s) directly addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, transmission, distribution, or other forms of dissemination is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete this email with any files that may be attached. On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 6:12 PM Michael Palage <michael@palage.com> wrote:
Hello All,
I want to thank everyone for a constructive meeting last week. In advance of our meeting on Thursday, I would like to remind everyone to complete the survey. To date only 7 members including myself. Do not worry Volker, I will disclose my vote and remove it from the overall tabulations so as to not influence the final vote. However, consistent with my eat your own dog food style of leadership, I personally complete every task that I ask the group to do.
This is where you can go to vote – https://forms.gle/i9JUx45KSRWvktKU6 [forms.gle] < https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/forms.gle/i9JUx45KSRWvktKU6__;!!PtGJab4 !
rQG6Xsn6taQEsnZhno3se_bnN0yrUB9v2iNWReklt7NWvLef8aahfIHz_HmxYSmMDQbB2LAa0A$> . Please make sure that you are logged into your google account to be able to participate.
To view the responses, you can go here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1huYshCctSE83LjVhU6MMom7oykT3WMIYLjixanQd1L0 /viewanalytics [docs.google.com] < https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/1huYshCctSE83LjV
hU6MMom7oykT3WMIYLjixanQd1L0/viewanalytics__;!!PtGJab4!rQG6Xsn6taQEsnZhno3se _bnN0yrUB9v2iNWReklt7NWvLef8aahfIHz_HmxYSmMDQZ-aLZVTQ$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/1huYshCctSE83LjVhU6MMom7oykT3WMIYLjixanQd1L0/viewanalytics__;!!PtGJab4!rQG6Xsn6taQEsnZhno3se_bnN0yrUB9v2iNWReklt7NWvLef8aahfIHz_HmxYSmMDQZ-aLZVTQ$>> .
Best regards,
Michael
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Michael, I am answering "degree of Accuracy", not because I am happy with it as a "definition" but because it is closest to what I believe. The term accurate is often not used alone. For a survey: "estimated to be accurate within 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20." A number printout: "accurate to 3 significant digits" Some things are indeed Accurate or Not Accurate. E-mail addresses are generally unforgiving of even small errors, Phone numbers are unforgiving in the local part, but can be very forgiving in other aspects. Postal addresses can have varying degrees of accuracy and Names can have many forms which might all be considered accurate. So I feel that any definition must be more nuanced. How accurate something must be (as Steve has continually reminded us) is sufficiently accurate as to satisfy the need for which it is to be used. Alan At 2022-03-12 01:11 PM, Michael Palage wrote:
Hello All,
I want to thank everyone for a constructive meeting last week. In advance of our meeting on Thursday, I would like to remind everyone to complete the survey. To date only 7 members including myself. Do not worry Volker, I will disclose my vote and remove it from the overall tabulations so as to not influence the final vote. However, consistent with my eat your own dog food style of leadership, I personally complete every task that I ask the group to do.
This is where you can go to vote <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/forms.gle/i9JUx45KSRWvktKU6__;!!PtGJab4!rQG6Xsn6taQEsnZhno3se_bnN0yrUB9v2iNWReklt7NWvLef8aahfIHz_HmxYSmMDQbB2LAa0A$>https://forms.gle/i9JUx45KSRWvktKU6 [forms.gle]. Please make sure that you are logged into your google account to be able to participate.
To view the responses, you can go here: <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/1huYshCctSE83LjVhU6MMom7oykT3WMIYLjixanQd1L0/viewanalytics__;!!PtGJab4!rQG6Xsn6taQEsnZhno3se_bnN0yrUB9v2iNWReklt7NWvLef8aahfIHz_HmxYSmMDQZ-aLZVTQ$>https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1huYshCctSE83LjVhU6MMom7oykT3WMIYLjixanQd1L0/viewanalytics [docs.google.com].
Best regards,
Michael
Alan, Thank you for the vote and your explanation. I myself struggled with how to vote. The reason that I voted for 'degree of accuracy" like yourself was largely in part due to my experience in the identity space over the past five years. When you look at NIST (IAL1 thru IAL3) and eIDAS (low, substantial, high) there is a clear spectrum of accuracy, it is not binary. I was on the phone yesterday with an attorney that handles financial crimes for a large financial institution. In talking about identity proofing and risk assessment, the discussion was not a binary one but one that centered around a degree of risk that a financial institution was willing to accept. This discussion helped reaffirm my degree of accuracy vote. Best regards, Michael From: Alan Greenberg <greenberg.alan@gmail.com> On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:44 PM To: michael@palage.com; gnso-accuracy-st@icann.org Subject: Re: [GNSO-Accuracy-ST] Survey Reminder - Please Complete Michael, I am answering "degree of Accuracy", not because I am happy with it as a "definition" but because it is closest to what I believe. The term accurate is often not used alone. For a survey: "estimated to be accurate within 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20." A number printout: "accurate to 3 significant digits" Some things are indeed Accurate or Not Accurate. E-mail addresses are generally unforgiving of even small errors, Phone numbers are unforgiving in the local part, but can be very forgiving in other aspects. Postal addresses can have varying degrees of accuracy and Names can have many forms which might all be considered accurate. So I feel that any definition must be more nuanced. How accurate something must be (as Steve has continually reminded us) is sufficiently accurate as to satisfy the need for which it is to be used. Alan At 2022-03-12 01:11 PM, Michael Palage wrote: Hello All, I want to thank everyone for a constructive meeting last week. In advance of our meeting on Thursday, I would like to remind everyone to complete the survey. To date only 7 members including myself. Do not worry Volker, I will disclose my vote and remove it from the overall tabulations so as to not influence the final vote. However, consistent with my eat your own dog food style of leadership, I personally complete every task that I ask the group to do. This is where you can go to vote - https://forms.gle/i9JUx45KSRWvktKU6 [forms.gle] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/forms.gle/i9JUx45KSRWvktKU6__;!!PtGJab4! rQG6Xsn6taQEsnZhno3se_bnN0yrUB9v2iNWReklt7NWvLef8aahfIHz_HmxYSmMDQbB2LAa0A$> . Please make sure that you are logged into your google account to be able to participate. To view the responses, you can go here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1huYshCctSE83LjVhU6MMom7oykT3WMIYLjixanQd1L0 /viewanalytics [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/1huYshCctSE83LjV hU6MMom7oykT3WMIYLjixanQd1L0/viewanalytics__;!!PtGJab4!rQG6Xsn6taQEsnZhno3se _bnN0yrUB9v2iNWReklt7NWvLef8aahfIHz_HmxYSmMDQZ-aLZVTQ$> . Best regards, Michael
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Volker Greimann