Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 4 June 2015 at 13:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-04jun15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXzI03ZqpstVYEtAkUhnqHJbcMva2zeHXPBYS28IAQ-2BFDnoOG2tPq764nQpWd6tLI53tyrCFqns-3D_QuA5zZR9ZZ7J1F2FeF-2FOsgm1hgIDcBrAX2P7Ezxmql7ckJc4ios1-2BxObAoz2rzLSI3c4QB1NGo7bw7XrBjpRCbz74w4vzk48UxZMFoBBQBQaQ0ePdiOjdJ30sQNHkokOf-2F2p-2FBvMgKvMhzp-2B4u8fP-2BRrSytHe2KCf2HpQmtSbpezMgNTUG57PiORAPesOotpHA-2BC4pSmXJRsVmpbNaLqzjR7HE8M3N4FURpV7D83NSEtN-2BFRweqdoyRVq9yX3F214oZlsnytJL0fKHGrM-2BVEbemuYypGJum26v5tcRf1IVe4lJyfGqwridLruMYEiLiYOTEgzaChS1MRwfUPu-2FHsANY2xOcCaKze4zbRpbtn5xebBg49usM2j74DRK8NLAHtE3vd35T8sPwpj29YHmWVwMVZKd9DbfO-2Bp6hJqlpftFWpYXTGJMadGgGHv8DUJTwOeovQu11ipADK4AI8ih7ED7JzZSqBYXsxw5C4HFDHFD5U0y4sdKljzJmzViIF-2FM71> On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#j<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun>un<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar Attendees: Chris Dillon – NCSG Sara Bockey – RrSG Amr Elsadr – NCUC Justine Chew – Individual Jim Galvin - RySG Petter Rindforth – IPC Rudi Vansnick - NPOC Roger Carney - RrSG Peter Green (Zhang Zuan) – NCUC Apologies: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid Wen Zhai - RySG Amr Elsadr - NCUC ICANN Staff Julie Hedlund Lars Hoffmann Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 4 June 2015: Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG call on the 4th June 2015 Lars Hoffmann:Hello everybody - just dialing in now. Chris Dillon:Hello Lars & everyone! Peter Dernbach:Hello all. Nathalie Peregrine:Noted, thank you! Lars Hoffmann:document is not un-synched. Lars Hoffmann:*now Jim Galvin:Rec #4 - "through the help of language tags" I suggest should be "through the help of language *and script" tags". Jim Galvin:RDAP is a protocol. It does not store. Rudi Vansnick:RFC 7480 if i'm not wrong Jim Galvin:Yes, that wors Jim Galvin:^wors^works Justine Chew:Is RDAP spelt out anywhere earlier in the report? Justine Chew:*Sorry, haven't had time to look at this V4-2* Rudi Vansnick:@Justine: a reference to that will be put (footnote or somewhere else) Lars Hoffmann:*justine - i beleive it is spelled out. Jim Galvin:However, instead of RDAP maybe we should use "WHOIS replacement system". Jim Galvin:well, you know what the script could be, since it's not necessarily unique and unambiguous. Jim Galvin:Some languages are supported by multiple scripts. I think this is solveable algorithmically. Not absolutely certain yet but others have told me this should be the case. Nathalie Peregrine:Please all mute your phones and mics when not speaking Petter Rindforth:Just so that we are clear. If changing a word in one plce it has to be fully replaced Jim Galvin:I guess what I'm saying is +1 Lars. Withdraw comment to add "scripts" to example. Peter Green (CONAC):Sorry, again being late Rudi Vansnick:RDAP is more in the IETF field while WHOIS is more recognised in ICANN Jim Galvin:Rec 6 - again - RDAP to WHOIS Replacement System. Rudi Vansnick:@Jim: +1 Jim Galvin:and probably "database" to "database system" Jim Galvin:"database" comment is "rec #7" Rudi Vansnick:store works for database / database system Jim Galvin:Would we consider a "Finding" as opposed to a "non-recommendation"? Truly just a question. Petter Rindforth:I suggest "should lie" to be changed to "may lie" Jim Galvin:I would prefer we be more specific with the statement. So, I prefer "should" to "may" Rudi Vansnick:@Jim: +1 Roger Carney:@Jim +1 Peter Dernbach:But in Recommendation #5 we consider that registrars may wish to perform transofrmation. In those cases there may not be a "requestor." Jim Galvin:Wouldn't the registrar be the requestor in that case? Jim Galvin:Rather than being "moot", why don't we answer the question regardless and call it a recommendation? Rudi Vansnick:thanks LArs Peter Dernbach:I would suggest that "Non-Recommendation 8" become a "Finding" and we just leave the first sentence in the current draft, deleting the second sentence (currently in red). Jim Galvin:@peter - agree with Peter because the sentence is actually already in Rec #1. Lars Hoffmann:also could be ust 'transformation lies with' ... Peter Dernbach:I think that also exceeds the scope of our charter, which was to determine who should decide who bears the burden, not to decide who bears the burden. Peter Dernbach:I appreciate, though, that this is a minority opinion. Peter Dernbach:but we are making that suggestion in recommendation 1 Jim Galvin:@lars - +1 Lars Hoffmann:we can also just call it :finding in relation to charter question 2' Peter Dernbach:@Lars +1 Sara Bockey:Could we just delete Non-Recommendation and have it just be a new paragraph stating: Based on recommendations 1-7... Rudi Vansnick:just avoid transformation is done without the approval of the registrant engaging the registrant in an eventual legal action Jim Galvin:Even the second RDAP shoudl be "whois replacement system" Jim Galvin:@chris +1 Rudi Vansnick:+1 Rudi Vansnick:we did Chris Rudi Vansnick:? what standards ? Rudi Vansnick:i think so Lars Hoffmann:http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-07apr11-en.pdf Rudi Vansnick:great work done Peter Dernbach:Thank you Chris, Lars and all! Jim Galvin:thanks! bye all! Sara Bockey:thank you everyone Rudi Vansnick:have a nice day Petter Rindforth:The same Chris Dillon:Brilliant sunshine in London for once