Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group call held on Tuesday 23 September 2014 at 20:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-20140923-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr – ALAC Olivier Kouami – NPOC Jonathan Zuck – IPC Graeme Bunton – RrSG Marinel Rosca – Individual Pam Little – RySG Jeremy Beale- Independent Andrew Merriam – RySG Kayode Yussuf – IPC Tony Onorato - Individual Apologies: none ICANN staff: Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/ Wiki page : <https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag> https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Terri ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 23 September 2014: Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the non-PDP Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group teleconference on 23 September 2014 Marinel Rosca:Hello Cheryl Langdon-Orr:no all good that makes sense Terri Agnew:Kayode Yussuf has joined Kayode Yussuf:Hi everyone Kayode Yussuf:I'm sorry I'm late Terri Agnew:Tony Onorato has joined Berry Cobb:virtually all data under contract is publicly available. Tony Onorato:sorry to be late -- was on a client call Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:Either way it is an underlying principle Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:either in title or in substance Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:Interesting notion that if only limited providers respond then it could endanger any efforts at confidentiality as the data set would be limited Pam Little:It will also depend on what data is being requested. Pam Little:Berry, not all data under contract is public. Terri Agnew:@Jeremy we are unable to hear you, please check your mic Pam Little:There are certain types of data provided to ICANN Compliance upon request on a case by case basis. Jeremy Beale:Not working again! Pam Little:This type of data will not be public. Jeremy Beale:WOuldn't a principle be that only necessary data for the issue can be requested Jeremy Beale:If there is an important issue (consensus) then requests for data should only be considered unreasonable by registries/registrars if out of bounds of proper consideration of the issue... Terri Agnew:Olevie has disconnected from audio and we are unable to reach him back at this time, but will keep trying Jeremy Beale:Correct - rationale for the principle Tony Onorato:Yes -- the flow makes sense to me as a framework -- consistent, predictable application such as this, focusing on the most objective quantifiable ways to address the particular issuess seems very advisable and this seems to do that Pam Little:Yes Steve Chan:The principles document will be shared after this meeting Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:We can encourage some more established registries to attend, they have more bandwith to attend multiple meetings. I, for one, will need to be in NTAG meeting as a new registry and applicant Cheryl Langdon-Orr:sadly I am not surprised with that news Pam Jeremy Beale:WOuld get participation is you said we were proposing making data provision obligatory! Cheryl Langdon-Orr:quite possibly @Jeremy but it will also be rather antagonistic and in productive Cheryl Langdon-Orr:should read unproductive Jeremy Beale:Yes, I was joking! Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that said we will get better interaction. later I am sure Cheryl Langdon-Orr:we can pitch for ICANN52 of course... Tony Onorato:I would like to help Jonathan -- time constraints are rough right now, but I would be happy to pitch in as best as possible Graeme Bunton:I'm unlikely to make a call on the 30th Tony Onorato:No meeting necessary IMHO Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Aldo OK with that approach :-) :-) Cheryl Langdon-Orr:ALSO Cheryl Langdon-Orr:thanks all catch up in LA then... Pam Little:will try our best. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye.... safe travels to those travelling :-) Tony Onorato:thanks! Marinel Rosca:thank you Olévié:hi ! Olévié:I've joined in AC